The Lake
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@Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:
In the end, Mac loved his press clippings too much.
A unique trait amongst politicians
No, Mac was even worse than usual.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:
In the end, Mac loved his press clippings too much.
A unique trait amongst politicians
No, Mac was even worse than usual.
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:
In the end, Mac loved his press clippings too much.
A unique trait amongst politicians
No, Mac was even worse than usual.
I seem to recall very few on the Republican side having a problem with him prior to the falling out with Trump.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:
In the end, Mac loved his press clippings too much.
A unique trait amongst politicians
No, Mac was even worse than usual.
I seem to recall very few on the Republican side having a problem with him prior to the falling out with Trump.
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:
I seem to recall very few on the Republican side having a problem with him prior to the falling out with Trump.
Those were the guys who preferred him to Obama.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:
I seem to recall very few on the Republican side having a problem with him prior to the falling out with Trump.
Those were the guys who preferred him to Obama.
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:
I seem to recall very few on the Republican side having a problem with him prior to the falling out with Trump.
Those were the guys who preferred him to Obama.
It's a bit sad that McCain comes out as the bad guy after the falling out with Trump, who it has to be said is orders of magnitude bigger in being a publicity and attention whore. Criticising McCain for liking headlines, but supporting Trump- seriously?
I didn't like McCain's approach to foreign policy much, but he seemed like a pretty decent guy to me.
I was only joking
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I guess I just don't get it. I don't understand the "hatred" that each side has for the other.
Maybe hatred is too strong a word, but you know what I mean.
President Trump finds a cure for cancer. Democrats complain that he didn't do it sooner or that he only solved one type of cancer, etc.
President Biden finds a cure of cancer. Republicans complain that he didn't do it soon or that he only solved one type of cancer, etc.
The most thing that you can be certain on, is that no matter what one party proposes (maybe the most logical makes sense proposal in the world), the other party will come out against it just because they didn't think of it or propose.
It would be nice if the organizations that Mik mentioned in the thread earlier were able to gain a lot of support. (forward party and country1st)
@taiwan_girl said in The Lake:
I guess I just don't get it. I don't understand the "hatred" that each side has for the other.
Maybe hatred is too strong a word, but you know what I mean.
You have to think in terms of culture, and the degree to which humans are programmable by it, and the degree to which politics informs culture. When people from one tribe say they "can't understand" people from the other tribe, they mean it. Human minds can be so profoundly wired by their surrounding culture, that the thoughts and feels of others from other cultures can become alien to the extent of incomprehensibility.
That's why an ability to adequately characterize either tribe is actually a good and objective measure of whether one is tribal oneself. Anybody who makes their humble brag claim of not being able to understand how anybody could vote for Trump, for instance, or who boils it down to transparently false value judgments, is admitting to having a tribally indoctrinated psyche. That admission is socially beneficial within the tribe, so it's the opposite of a shameful weakness, or something to be addressed through deeper thought or empathy.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:
I seem to recall very few on the Republican side having a problem with him prior to the falling out with Trump.
Those were the guys who preferred him to Obama.
It's a bit sad that McCain comes out as the bad guy after the falling out with Trump, who it has to be said is orders of magnitude bigger in being a publicity and attention whore. Criticising McCain for liking headlines, but supporting Trump- seriously?
I didn't like McCain's approach to foreign policy much, but he seemed like a pretty decent guy to me.
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:
I didn't like McCain's approach to foreign policy much, but he seemed like a pretty decent guy to me.
McCain was the politician (and conservative) we needed (and still need) more of. Decent, steadfast, principled, but knew the value of compromise for the sake of the country.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:
I didn't like McCain's approach to foreign policy much, but he seemed like a pretty decent guy to me.
McCain was the politician (and conservative) we needed (and still need) more of. Decent, steadfast, principled, but knew the value of compromise for the sake of the country.
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:
I didn't like McCain's approach to foreign policy much, but he seemed like a pretty decent guy to me.
McCain was the politician (and conservative) we needed (and still need) more of. Decent, steadfast, principled, but knew the value of compromise for the sake of the country.
Spoken like a true Romney Rat.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:
I seem to recall very few on the Republican side having a problem with him prior to the falling out with Trump.
Those were the guys who preferred him to Obama.
It's a bit sad that McCain comes out as the bad guy after the falling out with Trump, who it has to be said is orders of magnitude bigger in being a publicity and attention whore. Criticising McCain for liking headlines, but supporting Trump- seriously?
I didn't like McCain's approach to foreign policy much, but he seemed like a pretty decent guy to me.
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:
I didn't like McCain's approach to foreign policy much, but he seemed like a pretty decent guy to me.
In hindsight though he had Putin pegged and I doubt that the latter would have annexed Crimea, started a civil war in the Donbas or gave direct military assistance to the Assad regime had McCain won the 2008 and 2012 elections. Putin would have learned early on that McCain was not one to offer meaningless foreign policy resets or draw imaginary lines the sand.
I actually think McCain could have beat Obama in 2008 if he hadn’t been saddled with that lightweight bimbo, Sarah Palin as a running mate.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:
I didn't like McCain's approach to foreign policy much, but he seemed like a pretty decent guy to me.
In hindsight though he had Putin pegged and I doubt that the latter would have annexed Crimea, started a civil war in the Donbas or gave direct military assistance to the Assad regime had McCain won the 2008 and 2012 elections. Putin would have learned early on that McCain was not one to offer meaningless foreign policy resets or draw imaginary lines the sand.
I actually think McCain could have beat Obama in 2008 if he hadn’t been saddled with that lightweight bimbo, Sarah Palin as a running mate.
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:
I didn't like McCain's approach to foreign policy much, but he seemed like a pretty decent guy to me.
In hindsight though he had Putin pegged and I doubt that the latter would have annexed Crimea, started a civil war in the Donbas or gave direct military assistance to the Assad regime had McCain won the 2008 and 2012 elections. Putin would have learned early on that McCain was not one to offer meaningless foreign policy resets or draw imaginary lines the sand.
I actually think McCain could have beat Obama in 2008 if he hadn’t been saddled with that lightweight bimbo, Sarah Palin as a running mate.
I doubt it.
The MSM had already annointed his opposition.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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I must admit I thought at the time that the Palin choice was a huge blunder.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:
I didn't like McCain's approach to foreign policy much, but he seemed like a pretty decent guy to me.
In hindsight though he had Putin pegged and I doubt that the latter would have annexed Crimea, started a civil war in the Donbas or gave direct military assistance to the Assad regime had McCain won the 2008 and 2012 elections. Putin would have learned early on that McCain was not one to offer meaningless foreign policy resets or draw imaginary lines the sand.
I actually think McCain could have beat Obama in 2008 if he hadn’t been saddled with that lightweight bimbo, Sarah Palin as a running mate.
I doubt it.
The MSM had already annointed his opposition.
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That's twelve years ago. I've slept since then.
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2018 - after the death of John McCain
"The 'Maverick' has died. Four days shy of his 82nd birthday Senator John Mccain passed away at his Cornville, Arizona home after a courageous battle with cancer. A war hero, icon and a force to be reckoned with. Sending my deepest condolences to his family at this painful time."
2022 - After kissing the shoes of President Trump
We don't have any McCain Republicans in here, do we?" eliciting boos from her supporters.
"Okay, if you [are], get the hell out," she added with a laugh.
Elsewhere at the event, Lake again noted that the Republican party was "the party of McCain," sneering her face before saying, "I know. Boy, Arizona has delivered some losers, haven't they?
2022 - After kissing the shoes of President Trump
We don't have any McCain Republicans in here, do we?" eliciting boos from her supporters.
"Okay, if you [are], get the hell out," she added with a laugh.
Elsewhere at the event, Lake again noted that the Republican party was "the party of McCain," sneering her face before saying, "I know. Boy, Arizona has delivered some losers, haven't they?
Am thinking that today Lake might be regretting rubbishing McCain’s memory and legacy to garner favour with the Trump crowd.
Elbows up!
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People change their mind, and they change their roles. In 2018 she was a newscaster. She was paid to make statements other people wrote.
