The Lake

[Jolly]

Wish in one hand and poop in the other. See which one fills up faster.

The two parties can morph, but I don't see any substantial third party with any staying power being able to exist.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Jolly said in The Lake:

In the end, Mac loved his press clippings too much.

A unique trait amongst both politicians and former reality TV stars

[Jolly]

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

@Jolly said in The Lake:

In the end, Mac loved his press clippings too much.

A unique trait amongst politicians

No, Mac was even worse than usual.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Jolly said in The Lake:

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

@Jolly said in The Lake:

In the end, Mac loved his press clippings too much.

A unique trait amongst politicians

No, Mac was even worse than usual.

I seem to recall very few on the Republican side having a problem with him prior to the falling out with Trump.

[George K]

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

I seem to recall very few on the Republican side having a problem with him prior to the falling out with Trump.

Those were the guys who preferred him to Obama.

[Doctor Phibes]

@George-K said in The Lake:

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

I seem to recall very few on the Republican side having a problem with him prior to the falling out with Trump.

Those were the guys who preferred him to Obama.

It's a bit sad that McCain comes out as the bad guy after the falling out with Trump, who it has to be said is orders of magnitude bigger in being a publicity and attention whore. Criticising McCain for liking headlines, but supporting Trump- seriously?

I didn't like McCain's approach to foreign policy much, but he seemed like a pretty decent guy to me.

[Horace]

@taiwan_girl said in The Lake:

I guess I just don't get it. I don't understand the "hatred" that each side has for the other.

Maybe hatred is too strong a word, but you know what I mean.

You have to think in terms of culture, and the degree to which humans are programmable by it, and the degree to which politics informs culture. When people from one tribe say they "can't understand" people from the other tribe, they mean it. Human minds can be so profoundly wired by their surrounding culture, that the thoughts and feels of others from other cultures can become alien to the extent of incomprehensibility.

That's why an ability to adequately characterize either tribe is actually a good and objective measure of whether one is tribal oneself. Anybody who makes their humble brag claim of not being able to understand how anybody could vote for Trump, for instance, or who boils it down to transparently false value judgments, is admitting to having a tribally indoctrinated psyche. That admission is socially beneficial within the tribe, so it's the opposite of a shameful weakness, or something to be addressed through deeper thought or empathy.

[89th]

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

I didn't like McCain's approach to foreign policy much, but he seemed like a pretty decent guy to me.

McCain was the politician (and conservative) we needed (and still need) more of. Decent, steadfast, principled, but knew the value of compromise for the sake of the country.

[89th]

Lake seems to be a mix of a televangelist and news anchor. Loves the camera, good on stage, and happy to flip flop for votes. Also, believes elections shouldn't be trusted, which I'd imagine she'll flip-flop on if she wins.

[Jolly]

@89th said in The Lake:

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

I didn't like McCain's approach to foreign policy much, but he seemed like a pretty decent guy to me.

McCain was the politician (and conservative) we needed (and still need) more of. Decent, steadfast, principled, but knew the value of compromise for the sake of the country.

Spoken like a true Romney Rat.

[Renauda]

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

@George-K said in The Lake:

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

I didn't like McCain's approach to foreign policy much, but he seemed like a pretty decent guy to me.

In hindsight though he had Putin pegged and I doubt that the latter would have annexed Crimea, started a civil war in the Donbas or gave direct military assistance to the Assad regime had McCain won the 2008 and 2012 elections. Putin would have learned early on that McCain was not one to offer meaningless foreign policy resets or draw imaginary lines the sand.

I actually think McCain could have beat Obama in 2008 if he hadn’t been saddled with that lightweight bimbo, Sarah Palin as a running mate.

[Jolly]

@Renauda said in The Lake:

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

@George-K said in The Lake:

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

I didn't like McCain's approach to foreign policy much, but he seemed like a pretty decent guy to me.

In hindsight though he had Putin pegged and I doubt that the latter would have annexed Crimea, started a civil war in the Donbas or gave direct military assistance to the Assad regime had McCain won the 2008 and 2012 elections. Putin would have learned early on that McCain was not one to offer meaningless foreign policy resets or draw imaginary lines the sand.

I actually think McCain could have beat Obama in 2008 if he hadn’t been saddled with that lightweight bimbo, Sarah Palin as a running mate.

I doubt it.

The MSM had already annointed his opposition.

[Doctor Phibes]

I must admit I thought at the time that the Palin choice was a huge blunder.

[Renauda]

@Jolly

I doubt it.

The MSM had already annointed his opposition.

I don’t and if my memory serves me well, nor did you in 2008.

[Jolly]

That's twelve years ago. I've slept since then.

[Renauda]

@Jolly

You’re a regular Rip van Winkle.

[Renauda]

@taiwan_girl

2022 - After kissing the shoes of President Trump

We don't have any McCain Republicans in here, do we?" eliciting boos from her supporters.

"Okay, if you [are], get the hell out," she added with a laugh.

Elsewhere at the event, Lake again noted that the Republican party was "the party of McCain," sneering her face before saying, "I know. Boy, Arizona has delivered some losers, haven't they?

Am thinking that today Lake might be regretting rubbishing McCain’s memory and legacy to garner favour with the Trump crowd.

[Mik]

Could well be. he was pretty popular.

[89th]

Laughably, looks like Lake lost.

[Axtremus]

@Mik said in The Lake:

People change their mind, and they change their roles. In 2018 she was a newscaster. She was paid to make statements other people wrote.

How do you know she’s not paid to make statements other people write now?