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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
    wrote on last edited by
    #499

    I think the declassified argument can be made.

    I also think an argument can be made for a nonspecific warrant and the inherent problens with evidence gathered under such warrant.

    And I think the FBI is going to have to come up with something extraordinary or they're going to seriously regret their actions.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
      wrote on last edited by
      #500

      ‘Comically Inept and Inexperienced’ Legal Team

      “Publicly, what they’re saying is this is rallying Republicans to Trump’s defense,” Karl said. “This makes it more likely that he will run for president, more likely that he will win the Republican nomination. Campaigning against this political action by the FBI and the DOJ.

      “Privately, they are really concerned. And one of the big concerns here is that Trump has nobody defending him. If you look at his legal team, it is comically inept and inexperienced. All of the big names who defended him through the first two impeachments, through the Mueller investigation, they are gone. There is real concern that he needs to bring in a heavy hitting criminal defense attorney.”

      Trouble is, according to Karl, that Trump just can’t find a top attorney willing to take him on as a client.

      “I know of several that have been approached who have said no,” Karl said. “I even know of one prominent criminal defense attorney who was approached who didn’t even return the phone call.”

      Karl went on to question how Trump plans to get enough Republicans to vote for him in a presidential primary when he can’t even get an attorney to defend him.

      “The idea of Donald Trump running for president again and being the frontrunner for the Republican nomination — will Republicans be comfortable supporting a candidate who cannot even hire a criminal defense attorney?”

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • George KG George K

        ‘Comically Inept and Inexperienced’ Legal Team

        “Publicly, what they’re saying is this is rallying Republicans to Trump’s defense,” Karl said. “This makes it more likely that he will run for president, more likely that he will win the Republican nomination. Campaigning against this political action by the FBI and the DOJ.

        “Privately, they are really concerned. And one of the big concerns here is that Trump has nobody defending him. If you look at his legal team, it is comically inept and inexperienced. All of the big names who defended him through the first two impeachments, through the Mueller investigation, they are gone. There is real concern that he needs to bring in a heavy hitting criminal defense attorney.”

        Trouble is, according to Karl, that Trump just can’t find a top attorney willing to take him on as a client.

        “I know of several that have been approached who have said no,” Karl said. “I even know of one prominent criminal defense attorney who was approached who didn’t even return the phone call.”

        Karl went on to question how Trump plans to get enough Republicans to vote for him in a presidential primary when he can’t even get an attorney to defend him.

        “The idea of Donald Trump running for president again and being the frontrunner for the Republican nomination — will Republicans be comfortable supporting a candidate who cannot even hire a criminal defense attorney?”

        AxtremusA Offline
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        Axtremus
        wrote on last edited by
        #501

        @George-K said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

        ‘Comically Inept and Inexperienced’ Legal Team

        “… — will Republicans be comfortable supporting a candidate who cannot even hire a criminal defense attorney?”

        You’d think the worry would be about having to support a candidate who desperately needs a criminal defense attorney in the first place.

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        • jon-nycJ Online
          jon-nycJ Online
          jon-nyc
          wrote on last edited by
          #502

          I think one of the lawyers that filed his brief used to be a host on OANN.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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            Doctor Phibes
            wrote on last edited by
            #503

            Michael Cohen is probably free.

            Then again, he probably wants to stay that way.

            I was only joking

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            • jon-nycJ Online
              jon-nycJ Online
              jon-nyc
              wrote on last edited by
              #504

              Another one:

              "Lindsey Halligan is a partner in the Miami and Ft. Lauderdale East offices’ Property Group, which focuses on defending multiple carriers in first-party insurance claims. Lindsey’s practice focuses on the litigation of numerous water, fire, SIU fraud, vandalism and theft claims on both residential and commercial properties."

              She uses a gmail address. Apparently she needed assistance in the simple mechanics of filing the motion. Legal Twitter has been unkind.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                Another one:

                "Lindsey Halligan is a partner in the Miami and Ft. Lauderdale East offices’ Property Group, which focuses on defending multiple carriers in first-party insurance claims. Lindsey’s practice focuses on the litigation of numerous water, fire, SIU fraud, vandalism and theft claims on both residential and commercial properties."

                She uses a gmail address. Apparently she needed assistance in the simple mechanics of filing the motion. Legal Twitter has been unkind.

                Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                Doctor Phibes
                wrote on last edited by
                #505

                @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                Another one:

                "Lindsey Halligan is a partner in the Miami and Ft. Lauderdale East offices’ Property Group, which focuses on defending multiple carriers in first-party insurance claims. Lindsey’s practice focuses on the litigation of numerous water, fire, SIU fraud, vandalism and theft claims on both residential and commercial properties."

                She uses a gmail address. Apparently she needed assistance in the simple mechanics of filing the motion. Legal Twitter has been unkind.

                Here she is, apparently....

                6f025155-9a82-4e39-90cc-7a932093cabc-image.png

                Maybe I'm imagining things, but I'm starting to notice a bit of a pattern with the folk that DJT hires....

                I was only joking

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                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                  @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                  Another one:

                  "Lindsey Halligan is a partner in the Miami and Ft. Lauderdale East offices’ Property Group, which focuses on defending multiple carriers in first-party insurance claims. Lindsey’s practice focuses on the litigation of numerous water, fire, SIU fraud, vandalism and theft claims on both residential and commercial properties."

                  She uses a gmail address. Apparently she needed assistance in the simple mechanics of filing the motion. Legal Twitter has been unkind.

                  Here she is, apparently....

                  6f025155-9a82-4e39-90cc-7a932093cabc-image.png

                  Maybe I'm imagining things, but I'm starting to notice a bit of a pattern with the folk that DJT hires....

                  Aqua LetiferA Offline
                  Aqua LetiferA Offline
                  Aqua Letifer
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #506

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                  @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                  Another one:

                  "Lindsey Halligan is a partner in the Miami and Ft. Lauderdale East offices’ Property Group, which focuses on defending multiple carriers in first-party insurance claims. Lindsey’s practice focuses on the litigation of numerous water, fire, SIU fraud, vandalism and theft claims on both residential and commercial properties."

                  She uses a gmail address. Apparently she needed assistance in the simple mechanics of filing the motion. Legal Twitter has been unkind.

                  Here she is, apparently....

                  6f025155-9a82-4e39-90cc-7a932093cabc-image.png

                  Maybe I'm imagining things, but I'm starting to notice a bit of a pattern with the folk that DJT hires....

                  Well, there was that exposed Access Hollywood video where he outlined his approach to human resources...

                  Please love yourself.

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                  • CopperC Offline
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                    Copper
                    wrote on last edited by Copper
                    #507

                    Any Trump lawyer has to be prepared to withstand an FBI investigation

                    With no lawyer client privilege

                    This is the world we live in

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                    • JollyJ Offline
                      JollyJ Offline
                      Jolly
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #508

                      And that's why he's having trouble hiring a lawyer. The Swamp, with an unlimited amount of resources, will take his lawyers under intense scrutiny and try its best to make a negative impact on their wallet and on their life.

                      What lawyer in their right mind wants that?

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • RenaudaR Offline
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                        Renauda
                        wrote on last edited by Renauda
                        #509

                        I would suggest that Trump’s trouble finding lawyers is 1) he has a reputation for not following their advice then blaming them when things go south and; 2) he is notorious for refusing to pay his bills.

                        In other words, he is a liability not an asset.

                        Elbows up!

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                        • RenaudaR Renauda

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                          @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                          I’m not sure what they do if the evidence is top secret.

                          Surely it’s all declassified?

                          Apparently so, either by having it in his possession or by, Lord knows, magic. Let’s let the courts decide and set a precedent. After all, that how Common Law works.

                          Catseye3C Offline
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                          Catseye3
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #510

                          @Renauda said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                          After all, that how Common Law works.

                          And Trump is nothing if not Common.

                          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                          • Catseye3C Catseye3

                            @Renauda said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                            After all, that how Common Law works.

                            And Trump is nothing if not Common.

                            RenaudaR Offline
                            RenaudaR Offline
                            Renauda
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #511

                            @Catseye3

                            Indeed, common with a very small “c”.

                            Elbows up!

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                            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                              @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                              Another one:

                              "Lindsey Halligan is a partner in the Miami and Ft. Lauderdale East offices’ Property Group, which focuses on defending multiple carriers in first-party insurance claims. Lindsey’s practice focuses on the litigation of numerous water, fire, SIU fraud, vandalism and theft claims on both residential and commercial properties."

                              She uses a gmail address. Apparently she needed assistance in the simple mechanics of filing the motion. Legal Twitter has been unkind.

                              Here she is, apparently....

                              6f025155-9a82-4e39-90cc-7a932093cabc-image.png

                              Maybe I'm imagining things, but I'm starting to notice a bit of a pattern with the folk that DJT hires....

                              AxtremusA Offline
                              AxtremusA Offline
                              Axtremus
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #512

                              @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                              @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                              Another one:

                              "Lindsey Halligan is a partner in the Miami and Ft. Lauderdale East offices’ Property Group, which focuses on defending multiple carriers in first-party insurance claims. Lindsey’s practice focuses on the litigation of numerous water, fire, SIU fraud, vandalism and theft claims on both residential and commercial properties."

                              She uses a gmail address. Apparently she needed assistance in the simple mechanics of filing the motion. Legal Twitter has been unkind.

                              Here she is, apparently....

                              6f025155-9a82-4e39-90cc-7a932093cabc-image.png

                              Maybe I'm imagining things, but I'm starting to notice a bit of a pattern with the folk that DJT hires....

                              Nah, I don’t think that picture is negative for the lawyer. Nothing illegal or unethical is shown in that picture. (That picture looks like it’s from an anti-smoking campaign.) A lawyer can have other legitimate interests that lead to a picture like this. A lawyer can have a life outside of his/her life outside of his/her legal practice.

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                              • RenaudaR Renauda

                                I would suggest that Trump’s trouble finding lawyers is 1) he has a reputation for not following their advice then blaming them when things go south and; 2) he is notorious for refusing to pay his bills.

                                In other words, he is a liability not an asset.

                                jon-nycJ Online
                                jon-nycJ Online
                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #513

                                @Renauda said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                I would suggest that Trump’s trouble finding lawyers is 1) he has a reputation for not following their advice then blaming them when things go south and; 2) he is notorious for refusing to pay his bills.

                                That's precisely as I've heard it described. You never know when he's going to undermine your entire legal strategy with a tweet Truth Social thingy.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

                                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                • 89th8 Offline
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                                  89th
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #514

                                  dd17c10d-56b4-437e-87d7-664710510096-image.png

                                  https://apnews.com/article/mar-a-lago-government-and-politics-1fef158c3a66bfc0ba6224570753ba47

                                  Why didn't Trump just burn it all?

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                                  • jon-nycJ Online
                                    jon-nycJ Online
                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #515

                                    It’s always the cover up.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    • 89th8 89th

                                      dd17c10d-56b4-437e-87d7-664710510096-image.png

                                      https://apnews.com/article/mar-a-lago-government-and-politics-1fef158c3a66bfc0ba6224570753ba47

                                      Why didn't Trump just burn it all?

                                      Catseye3C Offline
                                      Catseye3C Offline
                                      Catseye3
                                      wrote on last edited by Catseye3
                                      #516

                                      @89th
                                      Because then there'd be no story.

                                      As a thought experiment, imagine if the whole documents thing never happened. Trump took nothing with him, no DOJ attention, nothing. Would he be in the news right now?

                                      There's nothing else going on with him, is there?

                                      Is it possible he set this whole thing in motion to get himself in the headlines? I'm not saying it's so, I have no idea, but it would make sense. If I'm right, look for the end game to be Trump vindicated and triumphant over the bad bad government. Which he will fix if you elect him.

                                      Remember, he always finds a way to win.

                                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                      • 89th8 89th

                                        dd17c10d-56b4-437e-87d7-664710510096-image.png

                                        https://apnews.com/article/mar-a-lago-government-and-politics-1fef158c3a66bfc0ba6224570753ba47

                                        Why didn't Trump just burn it all?

                                        jon-nycJ Online
                                        jon-nycJ Online
                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #517

                                        @89th

                                        Really if the fat man had just cooperated like Hilary did he wouldn’t be in this spot. It’s the deception and lies to the Feds that led to this.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          @89th

                                          Really if the fat man had just cooperated like Hilary did he wouldn’t be in this spot. It’s the deception and lies to the Feds that led to this.

                                          George KG Offline
                                          George KG Offline
                                          George K
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #518

                                          @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                          Really if the fat man had just cooperated like Hilary did he wouldn’t be in this spot. It’s the deception and lies to the Feds that led to this.

                                          An attorney looks at this (good thread):

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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