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  • CopperC Offline
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    Copper
    wrote on last edited by Copper
    #507

    Any Trump lawyer has to be prepared to withstand an FBI investigation

    With no lawyer client privilege

    This is the world we live in

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
      wrote on last edited by
      #508

      And that's why he's having trouble hiring a lawyer. The Swamp, with an unlimited amount of resources, will take his lawyers under intense scrutiny and try its best to make a negative impact on their wallet and on their life.

      What lawyer in their right mind wants that?

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • RenaudaR Offline
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        Renauda
        wrote on last edited by Renauda
        #509

        I would suggest that Trump’s trouble finding lawyers is 1) he has a reputation for not following their advice then blaming them when things go south and; 2) he is notorious for refusing to pay his bills.

        In other words, he is a liability not an asset.

        Elbows up!

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        • RenaudaR Renauda

          @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

          @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

          I’m not sure what they do if the evidence is top secret.

          Surely it’s all declassified?

          Apparently so, either by having it in his possession or by, Lord knows, magic. Let’s let the courts decide and set a precedent. After all, that how Common Law works.

          Catseye3C Offline
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          Catseye3
          wrote on last edited by
          #510

          @Renauda said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

          After all, that how Common Law works.

          And Trump is nothing if not Common.

          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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          • Catseye3C Catseye3

            @Renauda said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

            After all, that how Common Law works.

            And Trump is nothing if not Common.

            RenaudaR Offline
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            Renauda
            wrote on last edited by
            #511

            @Catseye3

            Indeed, common with a very small “c”.

            Elbows up!

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            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

              @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

              Another one:

              "Lindsey Halligan is a partner in the Miami and Ft. Lauderdale East offices’ Property Group, which focuses on defending multiple carriers in first-party insurance claims. Lindsey’s practice focuses on the litigation of numerous water, fire, SIU fraud, vandalism and theft claims on both residential and commercial properties."

              She uses a gmail address. Apparently she needed assistance in the simple mechanics of filing the motion. Legal Twitter has been unkind.

              Here she is, apparently....

              6f025155-9a82-4e39-90cc-7a932093cabc-image.png

              Maybe I'm imagining things, but I'm starting to notice a bit of a pattern with the folk that DJT hires....

              AxtremusA Offline
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              #512

              @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

              @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

              Another one:

              "Lindsey Halligan is a partner in the Miami and Ft. Lauderdale East offices’ Property Group, which focuses on defending multiple carriers in first-party insurance claims. Lindsey’s practice focuses on the litigation of numerous water, fire, SIU fraud, vandalism and theft claims on both residential and commercial properties."

              She uses a gmail address. Apparently she needed assistance in the simple mechanics of filing the motion. Legal Twitter has been unkind.

              Here she is, apparently....

              6f025155-9a82-4e39-90cc-7a932093cabc-image.png

              Maybe I'm imagining things, but I'm starting to notice a bit of a pattern with the folk that DJT hires....

              Nah, I don’t think that picture is negative for the lawyer. Nothing illegal or unethical is shown in that picture. (That picture looks like it’s from an anti-smoking campaign.) A lawyer can have other legitimate interests that lead to a picture like this. A lawyer can have a life outside of his/her life outside of his/her legal practice.

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              • RenaudaR Renauda

                I would suggest that Trump’s trouble finding lawyers is 1) he has a reputation for not following their advice then blaming them when things go south and; 2) he is notorious for refusing to pay his bills.

                In other words, he is a liability not an asset.

                jon-nycJ Online
                jon-nycJ Online
                jon-nyc
                wrote on last edited by
                #513

                @Renauda said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                I would suggest that Trump’s trouble finding lawyers is 1) he has a reputation for not following their advice then blaming them when things go south and; 2) he is notorious for refusing to pay his bills.

                That's precisely as I've heard it described. You never know when he's going to undermine your entire legal strategy with a tweet Truth Social thingy.

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • 89th8 Offline
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                  89th
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #514

                  dd17c10d-56b4-437e-87d7-664710510096-image.png

                  https://apnews.com/article/mar-a-lago-government-and-politics-1fef158c3a66bfc0ba6224570753ba47

                  Why didn't Trump just burn it all?

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                  • jon-nycJ Online
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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #515

                    It’s always the cover up.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    • 89th8 89th

                      dd17c10d-56b4-437e-87d7-664710510096-image.png

                      https://apnews.com/article/mar-a-lago-government-and-politics-1fef158c3a66bfc0ba6224570753ba47

                      Why didn't Trump just burn it all?

                      Catseye3C Offline
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                      Catseye3
                      wrote on last edited by Catseye3
                      #516

                      @89th
                      Because then there'd be no story.

                      As a thought experiment, imagine if the whole documents thing never happened. Trump took nothing with him, no DOJ attention, nothing. Would he be in the news right now?

                      There's nothing else going on with him, is there?

                      Is it possible he set this whole thing in motion to get himself in the headlines? I'm not saying it's so, I have no idea, but it would make sense. If I'm right, look for the end game to be Trump vindicated and triumphant over the bad bad government. Which he will fix if you elect him.

                      Remember, he always finds a way to win.

                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                      • 89th8 89th

                        dd17c10d-56b4-437e-87d7-664710510096-image.png

                        https://apnews.com/article/mar-a-lago-government-and-politics-1fef158c3a66bfc0ba6224570753ba47

                        Why didn't Trump just burn it all?

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                        jon-nycJ Online
                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #517

                        @89th

                        Really if the fat man had just cooperated like Hilary did he wouldn’t be in this spot. It’s the deception and lies to the Feds that led to this.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          @89th

                          Really if the fat man had just cooperated like Hilary did he wouldn’t be in this spot. It’s the deception and lies to the Feds that led to this.

                          George KG Offline
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                          George K
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #518

                          @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                          Really if the fat man had just cooperated like Hilary did he wouldn’t be in this spot. It’s the deception and lies to the Feds that led to this.

                          An attorney looks at this (good thread):

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • CopperC Offline
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                            Copper
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #519

                            If he had cooperated like Hillary, he would already be in jail.

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                            • MikM Offline
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                              Mik
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #520

                              Why would he want to cooperate with organizations that have tried to do nothing but harm him for six or seven years?

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • HoraceH Offline
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                                Horace
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #521

                                Not to mention that cooperation would have turned this into a non-story, and he wanted a story to bolster his swamp-victim narrative.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                • HoraceH Horace

                                  Not to mention that cooperation would have turned this into a non-story, and he wanted a story to bolster his swamp-victim narrative.

                                  Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                                  Doctor Phibes
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #522

                                  @Horace said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                  swamp-victim narrative.

                                  Lord Farquaad wasn't the victim. I think he misunderstood that movie.

                                  I was only joking

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                                  • MikM Mik

                                    Why would he want to cooperate with organizations that have tried to do nothing but harm him for six or seven years?

                                    AxtremusA Offline
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                                    #523

                                    @Mik said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                    Why would he want to cooperate with organizations that have tried to do nothing but harm him for six or seven years?

                                    Forget about “cooperation.” Simply following the law would be nice.

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                                    • George KG Offline
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                                      George K
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                                      #524

                                      Fox:

                                      It was that very image that struck Doocy, as he asked the Fox & Friends director to bring it back up on screen for viewers to see.

                                      “Keep in mind, according to the filing, the agents found three classified documents in Donald Trump’s desks,” Doocy noted with a level of shock. “What were they (the documents) doing in the desk?!”

                                      “And when you look at these particular things right here, at least five yellow folders marked top secret and another secret SCI —that stands for sensitive compartmentalized information — these are the biggest secrets in the world!” Doocy continued — sharing a level of stunned disbelief that any reasonable person might have.

                                      “We have heard that Donald Trump’s lawyers went through all the stuff, but how could you go and look at that and not think, you know what? That’s probably something I should turn back over,” Doocy added.

                                      “His attorneys were asked about this, and he said he had already ordered them to be declassified,” Ainsley Earhardt defended the former president, adding, “They were taken to Mar-a-Lago when he was president.”

                                      But Doocy, again playing the part of the voice of reason, added that there is an accepted protocol for declassifying documents that Trump and his team did not follow, rendering that defense moot.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • George KG George K

                                        Fox:

                                        It was that very image that struck Doocy, as he asked the Fox & Friends director to bring it back up on screen for viewers to see.

                                        “Keep in mind, according to the filing, the agents found three classified documents in Donald Trump’s desks,” Doocy noted with a level of shock. “What were they (the documents) doing in the desk?!”

                                        “And when you look at these particular things right here, at least five yellow folders marked top secret and another secret SCI —that stands for sensitive compartmentalized information — these are the biggest secrets in the world!” Doocy continued — sharing a level of stunned disbelief that any reasonable person might have.

                                        “We have heard that Donald Trump’s lawyers went through all the stuff, but how could you go and look at that and not think, you know what? That’s probably something I should turn back over,” Doocy added.

                                        “His attorneys were asked about this, and he said he had already ordered them to be declassified,” Ainsley Earhardt defended the former president, adding, “They were taken to Mar-a-Lago when he was president.”

                                        But Doocy, again playing the part of the voice of reason, added that there is an accepted protocol for declassifying documents that Trump and his team did not follow, rendering that defense moot.

                                        RenaudaR Offline
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                                        Renauda
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                                        #525

                                        @George-K said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                        But Doocy, again playing the part of the voice of reason, added that there is an accepted protocol for declassifying documents that Trump and his team did not follow, rendering that defense moot.

                                        That’s odd. I read somewhere, can’t recall where mind you, but I am sure it was an unimpeachable source, that the POTUS does not have to follow a protocol in these matters. Not sure if this exemption included an accepted protocol as referenced above.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                        • RenaudaR Renauda

                                          @George-K said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                          But Doocy, again playing the part of the voice of reason, added that there is an accepted protocol for declassifying documents that Trump and his team did not follow, rendering that defense moot.

                                          That’s odd. I read somewhere, can’t recall where mind you, but I am sure it was an unimpeachable source, that the POTUS does not have to follow a protocol in these matters. Not sure if this exemption included an accepted protocol as referenced above.

                                          George KG Offline
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                                          George K
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                                          #526

                                          @Renauda said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                          That’s odd. I read somewhere, can’t recall where mind you, but I am sure it was an unimpeachable source, that the POTUS does not have to follow a protocol in these matters. Not sure if this exemption included an accepted protocol as referenced above.

                                          There seems to be a fair bit of controversy over this. Can POTUS, with the wave of his hand, declassify a document, or simply say, "That's not classified?"

                                          Perhaps (though I doubt it).

                                          And even if he could, shouldn't there be a record of said declassification?

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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