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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
    wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
    #491

    Funny the judge asked the Trump team to rewrite their submission. Commentators have said it didn’t really contain much legal content, and it read more like an op-ed. The general conclusion was this was just PR, especially since they waited 10 days to file it, long enough for investigators to have combed through everything already.

    You were warned.

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      Jolly
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      #492

      Maybe it goes along with how long Garland sat on doing the raid.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        Funny the judge asked the Trump team to rewrite their submission. Commentators have said it didn’t really contain much legal content, and it read more like an op-ed. The general conclusion was this was just PR, especially since they waited 10 days to file it, long enough for investigators to have combed through everything already.

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        George K
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        #493

        @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

        , long enough for investigators to have combed through everything already.

        True. But if the special master says this is privileged information, it's not admissible to a court. Perhaps not to a grand jury, either.

        (aside, does a grand jury get to see evidence, or just the state's case?)

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • jon-nycJ Online
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          jon-nyc
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          #494

          I’m not sure what they do if the evidence is top secret.

          You were warned.

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            I’m not sure what they do if the evidence is top secret.

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            Doctor Phibes
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            #495

            @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

            I’m not sure what they do if the evidence is top secret.

            Surely it’s all declassified?

            I was only joking

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            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

              @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

              I’m not sure what they do if the evidence is top secret.

              Surely it’s all declassified?

              RenaudaR Offline
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              Renauda
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              #496

              @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

              @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

              I’m not sure what they do if the evidence is top secret.

              Surely it’s all declassified?

              Apparently so, either by having it in his possession or by, Lord knows, magic. Let’s let the courts decide and set a precedent. After all, that how Common Law works.

              Elbows up!

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              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                I’m not sure what they do if the evidence is top secret.

                Surely it’s all declassified?

                George KG Offline
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                George K
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                #497

                @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                Surely it’s all declassified?

                Either that or it was wedding plans and recipes.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • George KG George K

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                  Surely it’s all declassified?

                  Either that or it was wedding plans and recipes.

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                  Doctor Phibes
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                  #498

                  @George-K said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                  Surely it’s all declassified?

                  Either that or it was wedding plans and recipes.

                  Or he could have plans to bury some more ex-wives there...

                  I was only joking

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                    #499

                    I think the declassified argument can be made.

                    I also think an argument can be made for a nonspecific warrant and the inherent problens with evidence gathered under such warrant.

                    And I think the FBI is going to have to come up with something extraordinary or they're going to seriously regret their actions.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      George K
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                      #500

                      ‘Comically Inept and Inexperienced’ Legal Team

                      “Publicly, what they’re saying is this is rallying Republicans to Trump’s defense,” Karl said. “This makes it more likely that he will run for president, more likely that he will win the Republican nomination. Campaigning against this political action by the FBI and the DOJ.

                      “Privately, they are really concerned. And one of the big concerns here is that Trump has nobody defending him. If you look at his legal team, it is comically inept and inexperienced. All of the big names who defended him through the first two impeachments, through the Mueller investigation, they are gone. There is real concern that he needs to bring in a heavy hitting criminal defense attorney.”

                      Trouble is, according to Karl, that Trump just can’t find a top attorney willing to take him on as a client.

                      “I know of several that have been approached who have said no,” Karl said. “I even know of one prominent criminal defense attorney who was approached who didn’t even return the phone call.”

                      Karl went on to question how Trump plans to get enough Republicans to vote for him in a presidential primary when he can’t even get an attorney to defend him.

                      “The idea of Donald Trump running for president again and being the frontrunner for the Republican nomination — will Republicans be comfortable supporting a candidate who cannot even hire a criminal defense attorney?”

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • George KG George K

                        ‘Comically Inept and Inexperienced’ Legal Team

                        “Publicly, what they’re saying is this is rallying Republicans to Trump’s defense,” Karl said. “This makes it more likely that he will run for president, more likely that he will win the Republican nomination. Campaigning against this political action by the FBI and the DOJ.

                        “Privately, they are really concerned. And one of the big concerns here is that Trump has nobody defending him. If you look at his legal team, it is comically inept and inexperienced. All of the big names who defended him through the first two impeachments, through the Mueller investigation, they are gone. There is real concern that he needs to bring in a heavy hitting criminal defense attorney.”

                        Trouble is, according to Karl, that Trump just can’t find a top attorney willing to take him on as a client.

                        “I know of several that have been approached who have said no,” Karl said. “I even know of one prominent criminal defense attorney who was approached who didn’t even return the phone call.”

                        Karl went on to question how Trump plans to get enough Republicans to vote for him in a presidential primary when he can’t even get an attorney to defend him.

                        “The idea of Donald Trump running for president again and being the frontrunner for the Republican nomination — will Republicans be comfortable supporting a candidate who cannot even hire a criminal defense attorney?”

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                        Axtremus
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                        #501

                        @George-K said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                        ‘Comically Inept and Inexperienced’ Legal Team

                        “… — will Republicans be comfortable supporting a candidate who cannot even hire a criminal defense attorney?”

                        You’d think the worry would be about having to support a candidate who desperately needs a criminal defense attorney in the first place.

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                        • jon-nycJ Online
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                          jon-nyc
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                          #502

                          I think one of the lawyers that filed his brief used to be a host on OANN.

                          You were warned.

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                          • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                            Doctor Phibes
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #503

                            Michael Cohen is probably free.

                            Then again, he probably wants to stay that way.

                            I was only joking

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                            • jon-nycJ Online
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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #504

                              Another one:

                              "Lindsey Halligan is a partner in the Miami and Ft. Lauderdale East offices’ Property Group, which focuses on defending multiple carriers in first-party insurance claims. Lindsey’s practice focuses on the litigation of numerous water, fire, SIU fraud, vandalism and theft claims on both residential and commercial properties."

                              She uses a gmail address. Apparently she needed assistance in the simple mechanics of filing the motion. Legal Twitter has been unkind.

                              You were warned.

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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                Another one:

                                "Lindsey Halligan is a partner in the Miami and Ft. Lauderdale East offices’ Property Group, which focuses on defending multiple carriers in first-party insurance claims. Lindsey’s practice focuses on the litigation of numerous water, fire, SIU fraud, vandalism and theft claims on both residential and commercial properties."

                                She uses a gmail address. Apparently she needed assistance in the simple mechanics of filing the motion. Legal Twitter has been unkind.

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                                Doctor Phibes
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #505

                                @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                Another one:

                                "Lindsey Halligan is a partner in the Miami and Ft. Lauderdale East offices’ Property Group, which focuses on defending multiple carriers in first-party insurance claims. Lindsey’s practice focuses on the litigation of numerous water, fire, SIU fraud, vandalism and theft claims on both residential and commercial properties."

                                She uses a gmail address. Apparently she needed assistance in the simple mechanics of filing the motion. Legal Twitter has been unkind.

                                Here she is, apparently....

                                6f025155-9a82-4e39-90cc-7a932093cabc-image.png

                                Maybe I'm imagining things, but I'm starting to notice a bit of a pattern with the folk that DJT hires....

                                I was only joking

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                                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                  @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                  Another one:

                                  "Lindsey Halligan is a partner in the Miami and Ft. Lauderdale East offices’ Property Group, which focuses on defending multiple carriers in first-party insurance claims. Lindsey’s practice focuses on the litigation of numerous water, fire, SIU fraud, vandalism and theft claims on both residential and commercial properties."

                                  She uses a gmail address. Apparently she needed assistance in the simple mechanics of filing the motion. Legal Twitter has been unkind.

                                  Here she is, apparently....

                                  6f025155-9a82-4e39-90cc-7a932093cabc-image.png

                                  Maybe I'm imagining things, but I'm starting to notice a bit of a pattern with the folk that DJT hires....

                                  Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                                  Aqua Letifer
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                                  #506

                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                  @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                  Another one:

                                  "Lindsey Halligan is a partner in the Miami and Ft. Lauderdale East offices’ Property Group, which focuses on defending multiple carriers in first-party insurance claims. Lindsey’s practice focuses on the litigation of numerous water, fire, SIU fraud, vandalism and theft claims on both residential and commercial properties."

                                  She uses a gmail address. Apparently she needed assistance in the simple mechanics of filing the motion. Legal Twitter has been unkind.

                                  Here she is, apparently....

                                  6f025155-9a82-4e39-90cc-7a932093cabc-image.png

                                  Maybe I'm imagining things, but I'm starting to notice a bit of a pattern with the folk that DJT hires....

                                  Well, there was that exposed Access Hollywood video where he outlined his approach to human resources...

                                  Please love yourself.

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                                    Copper
                                    wrote on last edited by Copper
                                    #507

                                    Any Trump lawyer has to be prepared to withstand an FBI investigation

                                    With no lawyer client privilege

                                    This is the world we live in

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                                    • JollyJ Offline
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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #508

                                      And that's why he's having trouble hiring a lawyer. The Swamp, with an unlimited amount of resources, will take his lawyers under intense scrutiny and try its best to make a negative impact on their wallet and on their life.

                                      What lawyer in their right mind wants that?

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • RenaudaR Offline
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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                        #509

                                        I would suggest that Trump’s trouble finding lawyers is 1) he has a reputation for not following their advice then blaming them when things go south and; 2) he is notorious for refusing to pay his bills.

                                        In other words, he is a liability not an asset.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                        • RenaudaR Renauda

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                          @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                          I’m not sure what they do if the evidence is top secret.

                                          Surely it’s all declassified?

                                          Apparently so, either by having it in his possession or by, Lord knows, magic. Let’s let the courts decide and set a precedent. After all, that how Common Law works.

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                                          @Renauda said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                          After all, that how Common Law works.

                                          And Trump is nothing if not Common.

                                          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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