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How about that market?

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  • KlausK Klaus

    I for one have stopped evaluating politicians in terms of how much I like their policies. I evaluate them in terms of who does the least amount of damage relative to the "null" option of doing nothing. A politician who doesn't do much and has no big goals is usually a good politician.

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    @Klaus said in How about that market?:

    I for one have stopped evaluating politicians in terms of how much I like their policies. I evaluate them in terms of who does the least amount of damage relative to the "null" option of doing nothing. A politician who doesn't do much and has no big goals is usually a good politician.

    That would be a decent ball park definition of the difference between the left and the right. And your preference would be for the right.

    Education is extremely important.

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        Haha predictable.

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        • 89th8 89th

          Haha predictable.

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          @89th said in How about that market?:

          Haha predictable.

          Yeah, of course it was.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • MikM Away
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            The exception would prove the rule, if there would ever happen to be one.

            I won’t hold my breath.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              Oops

              Only non-witches get due process.

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                Oops

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                @jon-nyc said in How about that market?:

                Oops

                Yeah, saw that one. It’s an unusual, fast changing situation. At this point, I quite believe that there is no malice, and the BLS is doing the best it can.

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                  Yeah, for sure.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    Oops

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                    @jon-nyc said in How about that market?:

                    Oops

                    God that article sucks in so many ways. What a disgrace.

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                      Now we just need an article blaming common core math.

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                        What am I missing here?

                        The percentage they reported was an error. I get that.

                        But the absolutions number of jobs did increase, right?

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • George KG George K

                          What am I missing here?

                          The percentage they reported was an error. I get that.

                          But the absolutions number of jobs did increase, right?

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                          @George-K said in How about that market?:

                          What am I missing here?

                          The percentage they reported was an error. I get that.

                          But the absolute number of jobs did increase, right?

                          Yes. The real numbers were about half as much of an improvement as the wrong numbers were.

                          Edit: I mean the difference between predictions and the real numbers was about half as good. I'm not sure about absolute job numbers, but unemployment did go up.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            “You can 100% discount the possibility that Trump got to the BLS. Not 98% discount, not 99.9% discount, but 100% discount,” tweeted Jason Furman, the former top economist for former president Barack Obama. “BLS has 2,400 career staff of enormous integrity and one political appointee with no scope to change this number.”

                            I think it's a legitimate concern that Trump falsified these job numbers.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              I don’t.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                                I can understand how a rigorous risk analysis of all the factors and potentials involved would indicate a higher chance of Trump usurping the presidency after a legitimate election loss, than Trump fudging the jobs report.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  The market had baked in the correction Friday. The story is bogus.

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                                  • HoraceH Horace

                                    I can understand how a rigorous risk analysis of all the factors and potentials involved would indicate a higher chance of Trump usurping the presidency after a legitimate election loss, than Trump fudging the jobs report.

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                                    @Horace said in How about that market?:

                                    I can understand how a rigorous risk analysis of all the factors and potentials involved would indicate a higher chance of Trump usurping the presidency after a legitimate election loss, than Trump fudging the jobs report.

                                    Yep. Both on the incentives and the mechanisms available.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                                      The tail risk analysis science has spoken. Maybe Taleb is finding a way to bet on 20 years of president Trump as we speak. Or maybe he's betting that Trump fudged the jobs report, only at way higher odds.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                        Down a little more than that, but I can't tell for sure because I didn't mark the 2/19 high. I only save monthly snapshots. I'm down 4.2% from my peak month-end, which was 12/31.

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                                        @jon-nyc said in How about that market?:

                                        Down a little more than that, but I can't tell for sure because I didn't mark the 2/19 high. I only save monthly snapshots. I'm down 4.2% from my peak month-end, which was 12/31.

                                        So I finally checked, I’m actually up 12.6% over my peak (12/31 too).

                                        The Brad

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                                          Wow, some good timing on purchases or rebalancing?

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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