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  • RenaudaR Offline
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    Renauda
    wrote on last edited by Renauda
    #9

    The rhetoric coming out of the Kremlin has changed slightly the past 5 or so days. Earlier it was an operation to denazify Ukraine and rescue Russian speakers. Now the rhetoric is that Russia is engaged against NATO and is rescuing the world from the NATO’s global reach.

    Regardless of the the total NATO membership, in the mind of the most Russians NATO exclusively means one country, the USA.

    Right now it’s WWIII, lite.

    Elbows up!

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
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      #10

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • Aqua LetiferA Offline
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        Aqua Letifer
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        #11

        Wonder if they're gearing up to pin it on us.

        Please love yourself.

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        • CopperC Offline
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          Copper
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          #12

          That's not a good look for Earth Day.

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          • RenaudaR Offline
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            Renauda
            wrote on last edited by Renauda
            #13

            There might be a growing “Hell no, we won’t go” movement cropping up in some regions of Tsar Vladimir’s fiefdom. A rather militant one at that:

            https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/04/22/5-russian-enlistment-offices-hit-by-arson-attacks-reports-a77454

            Elbows up!

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            • George KG Offline
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              George K
              wrote on last edited by
              #14

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • George KG Offline
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                George K
                wrote on last edited by
                #15

                Screen Shot 2022-04-25 at 8.02.32 AM.png

                This is 120 km from the Ukrainian border.

                Sabotage?

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • MikM Away
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                  Mik
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                  #16

                  Again, this has gone so spectacularly badly for Russia that I have to wonder if it was not somehow orchestrated by the outside.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • MikM Mik

                    Again, this has gone so spectacularly badly for Russia that I have to wonder if it was not somehow orchestrated by the outside.

                    CopperC Offline
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                    wrote on last edited by
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                    @Mik said in Fire in Russia:

                    Again, this has gone so spectacularly badly for Russia that I have to wonder if it was not somehow orchestrated by the outside.

                    Yes, Mr. Biden tricked them into invading Ukraine.

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                    • George KG Offline
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                      George K
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #18

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • George KG George K

                        George KG Offline
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                        George K
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #19

                        A thread documenting all the fires and explosions.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • George KG Offline
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                          George K
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #20

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • MikM Away
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                            Mik
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #21

                            Tyumen is way inside Siberia.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • MikM Mik

                              Tyumen is way inside Siberia.

                              Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                              @Mik said in Fires in Russia:

                              Tyumen is way inside Siberia.

                              Yeah, about 3,000 km from Ukraine.

                              Please love yourself.

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                              • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                @Mik said in Fires in Russia:

                                Tyumen is way inside Siberia.

                                Yeah, about 3,000 km from Ukraine.

                                George KG Offline
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                                George K
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                                #23

                                @Aqua-Letifer said in Fires in Russia:

                                @Mik said in Fires in Russia:

                                Tyumen is way inside Siberia.

                                Yeah, about 3,000 km from Ukraine.

                                I've seen many people thinking this may be sabotage by Russians opposed to the special military operation war.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • MikM Mik

                                  Tyumen is way inside Siberia.

                                  RenaudaR Offline
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                                  Renauda
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                                  @Mik said in Fires in Russia:

                                  Tyumen is way inside Siberia.

                                  Tyumen is where my spouse’s family live.

                                  Ishim is a small farm town about 300km from Tyumen. There’s really not much of anything there. And yes I have been there - at least twice.

                                  Elbows up!

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                                  • George KG George K

                                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Fires in Russia:

                                    @Mik said in Fires in Russia:

                                    Tyumen is way inside Siberia.

                                    Yeah, about 3,000 km from Ukraine.

                                    I've seen many people thinking this may be sabotage by Russians opposed to the special military operation war.

                                    Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                                    Aqua Letifer
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                                    @George-K said in Fires in Russia:

                                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Fires in Russia:

                                    @Mik said in Fires in Russia:

                                    Tyumen is way inside Siberia.

                                    Yeah, about 3,000 km from Ukraine.

                                    I've seen many people thinking this may be sabotage by Russians opposed to the special military operation war.

                                    I honestly think the Russian people might have the most agency here. If Putin has to deal with significant in-fighting in addition to WWIII, that might be enough to stop this.

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                    • MikM Away
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                                      Mik
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                                      I wonder how many of these fires, like at a mall, are just normal occurrences. They may be portrayed as more than what they are. The munitions depots and such are of course a different story.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      • MikM Mik

                                        I wonder how many of these fires, like at a mall, are just normal occurrences. They may be portrayed as more than what they are. The munitions depots and such are of course a different story.

                                        RenaudaR Offline
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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #27

                                        @Mik

                                        Trust me there is nothing of political let alone military value in Ishim. There are however, a lot of alcoholics.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                        • George KG Offline
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                                          George K
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #28

                                          What the Hell Is Going On in Russia?

                                          =-=-=-=-=-=-=

                                          The weirdness got going in a normal way, with reports earlier this week of Ukraine’s “embrace of the British special forces model” to strike targets inside Russia that the regular Army (or even Ukraine’s inadequate Air Force) could never reach.

                                          The Washington Examiner’s Tom Rogan reported that a major oil depot was hit on Monday in Bryansk, more than 60 miles inside Russia’s border with Ukraine. That’s outside the range of most of Ukraine’s drones.

                                          While interesting, it isn’t exactly a “what the hell?” moment. British troops have been training Ukraine’s special operators since Russia annexed Ukraine and armed insurgents in Ukraine’s Donbas region back in 2014....

                                          Last week in Tver, about 100 miles northwest of Moscow, a Russian missile research facility caught fire, killing 17. Russian authorities claimed the blaze was an accident, but they claimed the same thing at first about Moskva.

                                          At nearly the same time, Russia’s largest chemical plant burned to the ground in Kineshma, about 150 miles east of Moscow.

                                          On Wednesday, Newsweek reported on “mysterious explosions throughout Russia,” including an ammunition depot in Belgorod, well north of Kyiv. Almost at the same time, nearly 200 miles away in Voronezh, more explosions were reported in a neighborhood near Russia’s Baltimor military airfield. And in Kursk, about halfway in between Belgorod and Voronezh, more explosions were reported.

                                          That would be a busy night even for the special forces of a much larger country than Ukraine.

                                          Then this bit of weirdness happened in downtown Moscow on Wednesday:

                                          ...

                                          On Friday, a Russian train engine derailed in the Bryansk region that was “reportedly traveling on the same line used by Moscow to send equipment and ammunition to Russian troops in Ukraine.” The track had been somehow damaged before the derailment.

                                          Also last week — and this one slipped completely under my radar — the fifth of five military enlistment offices in Moscow was hit by arsonists since the start of the war.

                                          And:

                                          Meanwhile, another oddity: Russian executives turning up dead in apparent murder-suicides with their families. That fate recently befell former executives from energy giant Gazprombank and Novatek, Russia’s largest independent gas producer. Their deaths are among a number of high-profile oligarch deaths in recent weeks.

                                          So once more, I must ask: What the hell is going on in Russia?

                                          A string of bad luck? Surprisingly effective Ukraine special forces? Popular resistance to Russian strongman Vladimir Putin?

                                          Some combination of all three?

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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