Fires in Russia
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Could just as easily be an FSB false flag operation. It would not be the first time. Remember those apartment buildings that blew up around Moscow twenty or so years ago? Usual suspects turned out be Chechens until some FSB operatives screwed up and we’re caught by the local gendarmerie. A cover up ensued. Still didn’t stop Putin from turning the whole of Chechnya into a smouldering heap of ash with public approval a couple of years later.
@Renauda said in Fire in Russia:
Could just as easily be an FSB false flag operation. It would not be the first time.
The naif in me hadn't even considered that. I wouldn't put it out of Putin's playbook, of course.
:Remember those apartment buildings that blew upon and around twenty or so years ago... public approval a couple of years later.
With the presumed loss of hundreds of Russian sailors on the Moskva, I wouldn't put it outside of his toolkit to gin up support.
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The rhetoric coming out of the Kremlin has changed slightly the past 5 or so days. Earlier it was an operation to denazify Ukraine and rescue Russian speakers. Now the rhetoric is that Russia is engaged against NATO and is rescuing the world from the NATO’s global reach.
Regardless of the the total NATO membership, in the mind of the most Russians NATO exclusively means one country, the USA.
Right now it’s WWIII, lite.
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Wonder if they're gearing up to pin it on us.
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There might be a growing “Hell no, we won’t go” movement cropping up in some regions of Tsar Vladimir’s fiefdom. A rather militant one at that:
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Again, this has gone so spectacularly badly for Russia that I have to wonder if it was not somehow orchestrated by the outside.
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Tyumen is way inside Siberia.
“I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Fires in Russia:
@Mik said in Fires in Russia:
Tyumen is way inside Siberia.
Yeah, about 3,000 km from Ukraine.
I've seen many people thinking this may be sabotage by Russians opposed to the
special military operationwar."Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Fires in Russia:
@Mik said in Fires in Russia:
Tyumen is way inside Siberia.
Yeah, about 3,000 km from Ukraine.
I've seen many people thinking this may be sabotage by Russians opposed to the
special military operationwar.@George-K said in Fires in Russia:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Fires in Russia:
@Mik said in Fires in Russia:
Tyumen is way inside Siberia.
Yeah, about 3,000 km from Ukraine.
I've seen many people thinking this may be sabotage by Russians opposed to the
special military operationwar.I honestly think the Russian people might have the most agency here. If Putin has to deal with significant in-fighting in addition to WWIII, that might be enough to stop this.
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I wonder how many of these fires, like at a mall, are just normal occurrences. They may be portrayed as more than what they are. The munitions depots and such are of course a different story.
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I wonder how many of these fires, like at a mall, are just normal occurrences. They may be portrayed as more than what they are. The munitions depots and such are of course a different story.
