Fires in Russia
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wrote on 21 Apr 2022, 23:43 last edited by Renauda
Could just as easily be an FSB false flag operation. It would not be the first time. Remember those apartment buildings that blew up around Moscow twenty or so years ago? Usual suspects turned out be Chechens until some FSB operatives screwed up and we’re caught by the local gendarmerie. A cover up ensued. Still didn’t stop Putin from turning the whole of Chechnya into a smouldering heap of ash with public approval a couple of years later.
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Could just as easily be an FSB false flag operation. It would not be the first time. Remember those apartment buildings that blew up around Moscow twenty or so years ago? Usual suspects turned out be Chechens until some FSB operatives screwed up and we’re caught by the local gendarmerie. A cover up ensued. Still didn’t stop Putin from turning the whole of Chechnya into a smouldering heap of ash with public approval a couple of years later.
wrote on 21 Apr 2022, 23:48 last edited by@Renauda said in Fire in Russia:
Could just as easily be an FSB false flag operation. It would not be the first time.
The naif in me hadn't even considered that. I wouldn't put it out of Putin's playbook, of course.
:Remember those apartment buildings that blew upon and around twenty or so years ago... public approval a couple of years later.
With the presumed loss of hundreds of Russian sailors on the Moskva, I wouldn't put it outside of his toolkit to gin up support.
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wrote on 21 Apr 2022, 23:57 last edited by Renauda
The rhetoric coming out of the Kremlin has changed slightly the past 5 or so days. Earlier it was an operation to denazify Ukraine and rescue Russian speakers. Now the rhetoric is that Russia is engaged against NATO and is rescuing the world from the NATO’s global reach.
Regardless of the the total NATO membership, in the mind of the most Russians NATO exclusively means one country, the USA.
Right now it’s WWIII, lite.
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wrote on 22 Apr 2022, 16:21 last edited by
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wrote on 22 Apr 2022, 16:36 last edited by
Wonder if they're gearing up to pin it on us.
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wrote on 22 Apr 2022, 17:02 last edited by
That's not a good look for Earth Day.
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wrote on 22 Apr 2022, 18:50 last edited by Renauda
There might be a growing “Hell no, we won’t go” movement cropping up in some regions of Tsar Vladimir’s fiefdom. A rather militant one at that:
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wrote on 25 Apr 2022, 11:17 last edited by
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wrote on 25 Apr 2022, 13:04 last edited by
This is 120 km from the Ukrainian border.
Sabotage?
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wrote on 25 Apr 2022, 13:30 last edited by
Again, this has gone so spectacularly badly for Russia that I have to wonder if it was not somehow orchestrated by the outside.
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Again, this has gone so spectacularly badly for Russia that I have to wonder if it was not somehow orchestrated by the outside.
wrote on 25 Apr 2022, 16:02 last edited by@Mik said in Fire in Russia:
Again, this has gone so spectacularly badly for Russia that I have to wonder if it was not somehow orchestrated by the outside.
Yes, Mr. Biden tricked them into invading Ukraine.
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wrote on 28 Apr 2022, 18:45 last edited by
Tyumen is way inside Siberia.
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wrote on 28 Apr 2022, 19:06 last edited by
@Aqua-Letifer said in Fires in Russia:
@Mik said in Fires in Russia:
Tyumen is way inside Siberia.
Yeah, about 3,000 km from Ukraine.
I've seen many people thinking this may be sabotage by Russians opposed to the
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@Mik said in Fires in Russia:
Tyumen is way inside Siberia.
Tyumen is where my spouse’s family live.
Ishim is a small farm town about 300km from Tyumen. There’s really not much of anything there. And yes I have been there - at least twice.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Fires in Russia:
@Mik said in Fires in Russia:
Tyumen is way inside Siberia.
Yeah, about 3,000 km from Ukraine.
I've seen many people thinking this may be sabotage by Russians opposed to the
special military operationwar.wrote on 28 Apr 2022, 20:06 last edited by@George-K said in Fires in Russia:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Fires in Russia:
@Mik said in Fires in Russia:
Tyumen is way inside Siberia.
Yeah, about 3,000 km from Ukraine.
I've seen many people thinking this may be sabotage by Russians opposed to the
special military operationwar.I honestly think the Russian people might have the most agency here. If Putin has to deal with significant in-fighting in addition to WWIII, that might be enough to stop this.
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wrote on 28 Apr 2022, 20:13 last edited by
I wonder how many of these fires, like at a mall, are just normal occurrences. They may be portrayed as more than what they are. The munitions depots and such are of course a different story.