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Math is taught as a collection of short-hand tricks that the students don't understand as anything more than black boxes that happen to work for some strange reason. Learning how to do long-hand multiplication or division is not more educational of math than learning where the Calculator app is in the app store and learning how to push the right buttons.
wrote on 22 Apr 2022, 14:46 last edited by@Horace said in Geek humor:
Math is taught as a collection of short-hand tricks that the students don't understand as anything more than black boxes that happen to work for some strange reason. Learning how to do long-hand multiplication or division is not more educational of math than learning where the Calculator app is in the app store and learning how to push the right buttons.
I don't think that's fair. What you really teach when you teach long-hand multiplication is how to execute an algorithm, which is a basic and important skill.
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Math is taught as a collection of short-hand tricks that the students don't understand as anything more than black boxes that happen to work for some strange reason. Learning how to do long-hand multiplication or division is not more educational of math than learning where the Calculator app is in the app store and learning how to push the right buttons.
wrote on 22 Apr 2022, 16:20 last edited by Doctor Phibes@Horace said in Geek humor:
Math is taught as a collection of short-hand tricks that the students don't understand as anything more than black boxes that happen to work for some strange reason. Learning how to do long-hand multiplication or division is not more educational of math than learning where the Calculator app is in the app store and learning how to push the right buttons.
That depends on how it's taught. I seem to think when I learned long multiplication, the teacher used it to explain how decimal numbers worked. Admittedly, that might have had no impact on the kids who were less interested, but I remember it making me think quite a bit about it.
What I really disliked was having to memorise multiplication tables. That and the freaking Nicene Creed. They don't do that so much over here.
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wrote on 22 Apr 2022, 16:45 last edited by
Horace - that was true in your day. Common core math and the Singapore method it’s based on really does a good job with creating deeper understanding. That’s why parents complain so much about it.
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Horace - that was true in your day. Common core math and the Singapore method it’s based on really does a good job with creating deeper understanding. That’s why parents complain so much about it.
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The utility of the rote mechanics was that anybody could memorize them, and then everybody "knew math". I wonder if you run up against intellectual ability barriers in attempts to teach the ideas.
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The utility of the rote mechanics was that anybody could memorize them, and then everybody "knew math". I wonder if you run up against intellectual ability barriers in attempts to teach the ideas.
wrote on 22 Apr 2022, 18:17 last edited by@Horace said in Geek humor:
The utility of the rote mechanics was that anybody could memorize them, and then everybody "knew math".
I once taught a set-7 math class. Forget long-division, half of them could barely use a ruler.
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The utility of the rote mechanics was that anybody could memorize them, and then everybody "knew math". I wonder if you run up against intellectual ability barriers in attempts to teach the ideas.
wrote on 22 Apr 2022, 18:26 last edited by@Horace said in Geek humor:
The utility of the rote mechanics was that anybody could memorize them, and then everybody "knew math". I wonder if you run up against intellectual ability barriers in attempts to teach the ideas.
I think they very much do. They teach multiple methods to arrive at solutions really admiring the problem in many ways. My son has flourished with it, I’ve always thought it was a special kind of torture for the mathphobic.
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wrote on 22 Apr 2022, 21:22 last edited by
My rote learning of multiplication tables has served me well over the last 60 years.
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wrote on 22 Apr 2022, 21:31 last edited by
@Copper said in Geek humor:
My rote learning of multiplication tables has served me well over the last 60 years.
So has my memorization of the Nicene Creed.
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wrote on 22 Apr 2022, 21:57 last edited by
And the Pater Noster
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wrote on 23 Apr 2022, 02:38 last edited by
Re: “rote learning of multiplication tables”
It’s really just caching for some frequently used information. Some information is more frequently needed than others, so it’s worthwhile to commit them to memory for quick access rather than to recompute or re-lookup every time the information is needed.
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@jon-nyc said in Geek humor:
Would be cool to live in a time when caricaturists were indistinguishable from portraitists.
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wrote on 9 May 2022, 15:19 last edited by
Not one, but two Sisyphus jokes.
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wrote on 10 May 2022, 01:53 last edited by
I wanted to add a third but it was an uphill climb.
"You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
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@jon-nyc said in Geek humor:
I wanted to add a third but it was an uphill climb.
Please. I can't bear the burden of another bad pun.
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wrote on 10 May 2022, 05:18 last edited by
@jon-nyc said in Geek humor:
I wanted to add a third but it was an uphill climb.
You just need to be boulder,
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wrote on 10 May 2022, 08:14 last edited by
This thread is going downhill fast…
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