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  • HoraceH Offline
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    Math is taught as a collection of short-hand tricks that the students don't understand as anything more than black boxes that happen to work for some strange reason. Learning how to do long-hand multiplication or division is not more educational of math than learning where the Calculator app is in the app store and learning how to push the right buttons.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • HoraceH Horace

      Math is taught as a collection of short-hand tricks that the students don't understand as anything more than black boxes that happen to work for some strange reason. Learning how to do long-hand multiplication or division is not more educational of math than learning where the Calculator app is in the app store and learning how to push the right buttons.

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      @Horace said in Geek humor:

      Math is taught as a collection of short-hand tricks that the students don't understand as anything more than black boxes that happen to work for some strange reason. Learning how to do long-hand multiplication or division is not more educational of math than learning where the Calculator app is in the app store and learning how to push the right buttons.

      I don't think that's fair. What you really teach when you teach long-hand multiplication is how to execute an algorithm, which is a basic and important skill.

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      • HoraceH Horace

        Math is taught as a collection of short-hand tricks that the students don't understand as anything more than black boxes that happen to work for some strange reason. Learning how to do long-hand multiplication or division is not more educational of math than learning where the Calculator app is in the app store and learning how to push the right buttons.

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        @Horace said in Geek humor:

        Math is taught as a collection of short-hand tricks that the students don't understand as anything more than black boxes that happen to work for some strange reason. Learning how to do long-hand multiplication or division is not more educational of math than learning where the Calculator app is in the app store and learning how to push the right buttons.

        That depends on how it's taught. I seem to think when I learned long multiplication, the teacher used it to explain how decimal numbers worked. Admittedly, that might have had no impact on the kids who were less interested, but I remember it making me think quite a bit about it.

        What I really disliked was having to memorise multiplication tables. That and the freaking Nicene Creed. They don't do that so much over here.

        I was only joking

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          Horace - that was true in your day. Common core math and the Singapore method it’s based on really does a good job with creating deeper understanding. That’s why parents complain so much about it.

          Only non-witches get due process.

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            Horace - that was true in your day. Common core math and the Singapore method it’s based on really does a good job with creating deeper understanding. That’s why parents complain so much about it.

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            @jon-nyc said in Geek humor:

            That’s why parents complain so much about it.

            Lolz

            I was only joking

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              The utility of the rote mechanics was that anybody could memorize them, and then everybody "knew math". I wonder if you run up against intellectual ability barriers in attempts to teach the ideas.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • HoraceH Horace

                The utility of the rote mechanics was that anybody could memorize them, and then everybody "knew math". I wonder if you run up against intellectual ability barriers in attempts to teach the ideas.

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                @Horace said in Geek humor:

                The utility of the rote mechanics was that anybody could memorize them, and then everybody "knew math".

                I once taught a set-7 math class. Forget long-division, half of them could barely use a ruler.

                I was only joking

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                • HoraceH Horace

                  The utility of the rote mechanics was that anybody could memorize them, and then everybody "knew math". I wonder if you run up against intellectual ability barriers in attempts to teach the ideas.

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                  @Horace said in Geek humor:

                  The utility of the rote mechanics was that anybody could memorize them, and then everybody "knew math". I wonder if you run up against intellectual ability barriers in attempts to teach the ideas.

                  I think they very much do. They teach multiple methods to arrive at solutions really admiring the problem in many ways. My son has flourished with it, I’ve always thought it was a special kind of torture for the mathphobic.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                    My rote learning of multiplication tables has served me well over the last 60 years.

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                      My rote learning of multiplication tables has served me well over the last 60 years.

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                      @Copper said in Geek humor:

                      My rote learning of multiplication tables has served me well over the last 60 years.

                      So has my memorization of the Nicene Creed.

                      I was only joking

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                        And the Pater Noster

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                          Re: “rote learning of multiplication tables”

                          It’s really just caching for some frequently used information. Some information is more frequently needed than others, so it’s worthwhile to commit them to memory for quick access rather than to recompute or re-lookup every time the information is needed.

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                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                              @jon-nyc said in Geek humor:

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                              Would be cool to live in a time when caricaturists were indistinguishable from portraitists.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                Not one, but two Sisyphus jokes.

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                                Only non-witches get due process.

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                                  I wanted to add a third but it was an uphill climb.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    I wanted to add a third but it was an uphill climb.

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                                    @jon-nyc said in Geek humor:

                                    I wanted to add a third but it was an uphill climb.

                                    Please. I can't bear the burden of another bad pun.

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      I wanted to add a third but it was an uphill climb.

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                                      @jon-nyc said in Geek humor:

                                      I wanted to add a third but it was an uphill climb.

                                      You just need to be boulder,

                                      The Brad

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                                        This thread is going downhill fast…

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                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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