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    Klaus
    wrote on 11 Mar 2022, 10:51 last edited by
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    We don't have a thread yet to discuss the ongoing war.

    What sources are you consulting? I hear that a lot of information and videos of very mixed quality and truth are being shared via Telegram channels.

    There's a few channels on Twitter that I'm following, such as this one.

    What about you?

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      Klaus
      wrote on 11 Mar 2022, 10:56 last edited by
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      Any idea what kind of weapon causes an explosion like this?

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        Klaus
        wrote on 11 Mar 2022, 11:04 last edited by
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        Damn.

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          George K
          wrote on 11 Mar 2022, 12:30 last edited by
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          Phil Stewart is a reporter who seems to have good information.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            George K
            wrote on 11 Mar 2022, 13:10 last edited by
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            Bill Roggio on urban warfare:

            Thread:

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • K Klaus
              11 Mar 2022, 10:56

              Any idea what kind of weapon causes an explosion like this?

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              89th
              wrote on 11 Mar 2022, 13:14 last edited by
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              @Klaus said in The Ukraine war thread:

              Any idea what kind of weapon causes an explosion like this?

              Usually when I see those types of explosions it reminds me of when a munitions depot or other explosive site is hit. So sometimes it's not the bomb, it's the target, that causes such a massive explosion.

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                George K
                wrote on 11 Mar 2022, 13:14 last edited by
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                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  89th
                  wrote on 11 Mar 2022, 13:15 last edited by
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                  To answer your question, though, I get most of my news from Reddit. It's not really news, but it is mostly raw content from on the ground.

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                    George K
                    wrote on 11 Mar 2022, 14:04 last edited by
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                    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1502269876999757831.html

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      George K
                      wrote on 11 Mar 2022, 14:45 last edited by
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                      The stalled convoy has dispersed:

                      Link to video

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 11 Mar 2022, 17:42 last edited by
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                        European defense official estimates Russian KIA at 7-9k “as of a few days ago”.

                        We lost fewer Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan over 20 years than Russia has lost in Ukrainian in 3 weeks.

                        You were warned.

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                          George K
                          wrote on 11 Mar 2022, 17:56 last edited by
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                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            Renauda
                            wrote on 11 Mar 2022, 17:57 last edited by
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                            My default mainstream media source is the BBC

                            I also try to tap into webinars offered by major universities and think tanks. There are many and they are free.

                            Two sites I regularly check are these:

                            https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/ukraine-conflict-updates

                            https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/war-in-ukraine/

                            Elbows up!

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                              bachophile
                              wrote on 11 Mar 2022, 19:21 last edited by
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                              TNCR

                              I just read what all you smart people say

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                                11 Mar 2022, 17:56

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                                Mik
                                wrote on 11 Mar 2022, 19:25 last edited by
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                                @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                This could be a very good sign if Putin is looking for someone to blame internally. I have no sympathy for them at all.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • M Mik
                                  11 Mar 2022, 19:25

                                  @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                  This could be a very good sign if Putin is looking for someone to blame internally. I have no sympathy for them at all.

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                                  LuFins Dad
                                  wrote on 11 Mar 2022, 20:55 last edited by
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                                  @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                  @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                  This could be a very good sign if Putin is looking for someone to blame internally. I have no sympathy for them at all.

                                  But there were supposed to be leaks from the FSB assisting the Ukrainians. Any chance it was one of these 2?

                                  The Brad

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                                    Renauda
                                    wrote on 11 Mar 2022, 21:52 last edited by Renauda 3 Nov 2022, 21:52
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                                    Probably one of the best panel webinars on the subject in the past two weeks. Military, diplomatic and economic topics. Broadcast this am so it is fairly up to date:

                                    https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/event/putins-war-wont-fly/?mkt_tok=NjU5LVdaWC0wNzUAAAGDE461da9mfL9mlmPRqhCBEsQMK5n5KX71ps6wEm-ji7CT6Zpy7KWpGqcko7PzrkpRBGVd0iXNxjnehyIQ8rWcueE5wAJFTOMETdWKQqCtZA

                                    Well worth your hour of time.

                                    Elbows up!

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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on 11 Mar 2022, 22:41 last edited by Jolly 3 Nov 2022, 22:42
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                                      Heard the best thing on the actual fighting from a retired USAF bird colonel on the radio today.

                                      His take? We know some big things, but a lot of what is going on is obscured by lack of intelligence, abundant propaganda on both sides and no firm numbers. He has been surprised by the lack of use of precision guided munitions...We know the Russians have them, as they used them in Syria, but the Russians have used dumb bombs for the vast majority of the campaign. Why? Nobody knows.

                                      One thing he did address was the MIG-29 deal...He thought more planes would not be especially helpful for Ukraine. Reason? The Russians have perhaps the best SAM in the world for nonstealth aircraft...Without terrain, the kill zone is 50 miles. We know they are in the country and we know the have been deployed. The way the Ukranians have been able to use the aircraft they have, is by flying low, popping up and getting a few shots off and then immediately bugging out back on the deck. That mission profile is limited.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        11 Mar 2022, 22:41

                                        Heard the best thing on the actual fighting from a retired USAF bird colonel on the radio today.

                                        His take? We know some big things, but a lot of what is going on is obscured by lack of intelligence, abundant propaganda on both sides and no firm numbers. He has been surprised by the lack of use of precision guided munitions...We know the Russians have them, as they used them in Syria, but the Russians have used dumb bombs for the vast majority of the campaign. Why? Nobody knows.

                                        One thing he did address was the MIG-29 deal...He thought more planes would not be especially helpful for Ukraine. Reason? The Russians have perhaps the best SAM in the world for nonstealth aircraft...Without terrain, the kill zone is 50 miles. We know they are in the country and we know the have been deployed. The way the Ukranians have been able to use the aircraft they have, is by flying low, popping up and getting a few shots off and then immediately bugging out back on the deck. That mission profile is limited.

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 11 Mar 2022, 22:44 last edited by
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                                        @Jolly I've read that Ukraine still has 80% of their fighters.

                                        Seems like that strategy is working.

                                        As to guided munitions, I remember reading that they are dependent upon encrypted data, and Ukraine has really screwed that up. I may be a bit off here, so bear with me...

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • J jon-nyc
                                          11 Mar 2022, 17:42

                                          European defense official estimates Russian KIA at 7-9k “as of a few days ago”.

                                          We lost fewer Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan over 20 years than Russia has lost in Ukrainian in 3 weeks.

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 12 Mar 2022, 12:45 last edited by
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                                          @jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                          European defense official estimates Russian KIA at 7-9k “as of a few days ago”.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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