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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    #48

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • jon-nycJ Online
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      jon-nyc
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      #49

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      • 89th8 Offline
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        I would imagine this is how the russian citizenry will find out about international sentiment towards russia's invasion.

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        • 89th8 89th

          I would imagine this is how the russian citizenry will find out about international sentiment towards russia's invasion.

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          @89th said in Sanctions?:

          I would imagine this is how the russian citizenry will find out about international sentiment towards russia's invasion.

          It may take a little longer, but I suspect word is spreading pretty rapidly. I can just imagine what the older folks think, having lived under the Soviets. I wonder what the younger people think?

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            @89th said in Sanctions?:

            I would imagine this is how the russian citizenry will find out about international sentiment towards russia's invasion.

            It may take a little longer, but I suspect word is spreading pretty rapidly. I can just imagine what the older folks think, having lived under the Soviets. I wonder what the younger people think?

            George KG Offline
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            George K
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            #52

            @Jolly said in Sanctions?:

            I wonder what the younger people think?

            "You mean EVERYONE is against us? How can that be?"

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              @89th said in Sanctions?:

              I would imagine this is how the russian citizenry will find out about international sentiment towards russia's invasion.

              It may take a little longer, but I suspect word is spreading pretty rapidly. I can just imagine what the older folks think, having lived under the Soviets. I wonder what the younger people think?

              RenaudaR Offline
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              Renauda
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              #53

              @Jolly

              According to MIL, people our age or older are not buying any of the BS. People under 30 though are buying it hook, line and sinker. The middle generation is mixed although the sanctions will definitely hit them hardest especially in the large cities. The rural areas though are firmly behind Putin.

              Elbows up!

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              • RenaudaR Renauda

                @Jolly

                According to MIL, people our age or older are not buying any of the BS. People under 30 though are buying it hook, line and sinker. The middle generation is mixed although the sanctions will definitely hit them hardest especially in the large cities. The rural areas though are firmly behind Putin.

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                Improviso
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                @Renauda said in Sanctions?:

                @Jolly

                People under 30 though are buying it hook, line and sinker.

                Until their iPhones stop working.

                We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
                Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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                • ImprovisoI Improviso

                  @Renauda said in Sanctions?:

                  @Jolly

                  People under 30 though are buying it hook, line and sinker.

                  Until their iPhones stop working.

                  RenaudaR Offline
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                  Renauda
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #55

                  @Improviso

                  Good point.

                  Elbows up!

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                  • George KG Offline
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                    George K
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                    #56

                    Is Russia being 'cancelled'?

                    Russia is getting deplatformed from the world. The war in Ukraine is in many ways a traditional military clash involving tanks, missiles, diplomats, and supply lines. But nonstate actors have started taking sides—well, taking one side—in ways that the world hasn't seen before, with private sector businesses and international organizations responding to Russia's attack on its neighbor by cutting ties with Moscow, and in some cases sacrificing huge sums of money. Combined with the sanctions imposed by the United States and Europe (and perhaps motivated by them too), this mass exodus of foreign capital is demonstrating how the market can punish even powerful states for dangerous and unjustified behavior.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • George KG George K

                      Is Russia being 'cancelled'?

                      Russia is getting deplatformed from the world. The war in Ukraine is in many ways a traditional military clash involving tanks, missiles, diplomats, and supply lines. But nonstate actors have started taking sides—well, taking one side—in ways that the world hasn't seen before, with private sector businesses and international organizations responding to Russia's attack on its neighbor by cutting ties with Moscow, and in some cases sacrificing huge sums of money. Combined with the sanctions imposed by the United States and Europe (and perhaps motivated by them too), this mass exodus of foreign capital is demonstrating how the market can punish even powerful states for dangerous and unjustified behavior.

                      RenaudaR Offline
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                      Renauda
                      wrote on last edited by Renauda
                      #57

                      @George-K

                      If that’s the case, then we can all take some comfort knowing that the world has finally “woke” itself to something that is actually relevant and terribly real.

                      Elbows up!

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                      • ImprovisoI Improviso

                        @Renauda said in Sanctions?:

                        @Jolly

                        People under 30 though are buying it hook, line and sinker.

                        Until their iPhones stop working.

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                        @Improviso said in Sanctions?:

                        Until their iPhones stop working.

                        Or they can't buy them....

                        https://9to5mac.com/2022/03/01/apple-ukraine-statement-pause-product-sales/

                        In a statement to media, Apple said it is deeply concerned about the Russian invasion and said it stands with all those who are suffering as a result of the violence. Apple said it is supporting humanitarian efforts and providing relief aid.

                        Apple also confirmed that it has paused all product sales and stopped exports into the Russian sales channel. It has also pulled the Russian state media apps for RT News and Sputnik News in all App Store regions outside of Russia.

                        Apple has also followed Google’s lead in disabling live traffic and incident reporting in Ukraine, in collaboration with local authorities.

                        Apple joins many other companies who are showing solidarity with Ukraine by pulling their products from the region and limiting the spread of state-backed Russian news media.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          Will Apple hire an Army when Putin starts shelling in Cupertino?

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                          • CopperC Copper

                            Will Apple hire an Army when Putin starts shelling in Cupertino?

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                            jon-nyc
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                            @Copper said in Sanctions?:

                            Will Apple hire an Army when Putin starts shelling in Cupertino?

                            With $200B cash on hand, God knows they could.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                              I wonder if Apple could remotely brick all Russian iPhones.

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                              • KlausK Klaus

                                I wonder if Apple could remotely brick all Russian iPhones.

                                RenaudaR Offline
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                                @Klaus

                                Interesting thought.

                                Elbows up!

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                                • KlausK Klaus

                                  I wonder if Apple could remotely brick all Russian iPhones.

                                  George KG Offline
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                                  George K
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                                  #63

                                  @Klaus said in Sanctions?:

                                  I wonder if Apple could remotely brick all Russian iPhones.

                                  Wouldn't surprise me.

                                  But it's a cost/benefit type of thing. It would piss off a lot of people, but, on a practical level, what effect would it have?

                                  Just wondering.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • George KG George K

                                    @Klaus said in Sanctions?:

                                    I wonder if Apple could remotely brick all Russian iPhones.

                                    Wouldn't surprise me.

                                    But it's a cost/benefit type of thing. It would piss off a lot of people, but, on a practical level, what effect would it have?

                                    Just wondering.

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                                    Klaus
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                                    #64

                                    @George-K said in Sanctions?:

                                    @Klaus said in Sanctions?:

                                    I wonder if Apple could remotely brick all Russian iPhones.

                                    Wouldn't surprise me.

                                    But it's a cost/benefit type of thing. It would piss off a lot of people, but, on a practical level, what effect would it have?

                                    Just wondering.

                                    It would be a stupid move, because many people everywhere wouldn't buy iPhones anymore if they knew that Apple can do that.

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                                    • KlausK Klaus

                                      @George-K said in Sanctions?:

                                      @Klaus said in Sanctions?:

                                      I wonder if Apple could remotely brick all Russian iPhones.

                                      Wouldn't surprise me.

                                      But it's a cost/benefit type of thing. It would piss off a lot of people, but, on a practical level, what effect would it have?

                                      Just wondering.

                                      It would be a stupid move, because many people everywhere wouldn't buy iPhones anymore if they knew that Apple can do that.

                                      George KG Offline
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                                      George K
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #65

                                      @Klaus said in Sanctions?:

                                      It would be a stupid move, because many people everywhere wouldn't buy iPhones anymore if they knew that Apple can do that.

                                      I agree...

                                      "I want a phone that no one can turn off."

                                      Because phone.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • KlausK Klaus

                                        @George-K said in Sanctions?:

                                        @Klaus said in Sanctions?:

                                        I wonder if Apple could remotely brick all Russian iPhones.

                                        Wouldn't surprise me.

                                        But it's a cost/benefit type of thing. It would piss off a lot of people, but, on a practical level, what effect would it have?

                                        Just wondering.

                                        It would be a stupid move, because many people everywhere wouldn't buy iPhones anymore if they knew that Apple can do that.

                                        AxtremusA Away
                                        AxtremusA Away
                                        Axtremus
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                                        #66

                                        @Klaus said in Sanctions?:

                                        It would be a stupid move, because many people everywhere wouldn't buy iPhones anymore if they knew that Apple can do that.

                                        See https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210515 , skim through the “Mark your device as lost or turn on Lost Mode for your item” section and the “Erase a device” section. They get very close to suggesting that Apple has the capability to brick your phone.

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                                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                          @Klaus said in Sanctions?:

                                          It would be a stupid move, because many people everywhere wouldn't buy iPhones anymore if they knew that Apple can do that.

                                          See https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210515 , skim through the “Mark your device as lost or turn on Lost Mode for your item” section and the “Erase a device” section. They get very close to suggesting that Apple has the capability to brick your phone.

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                                          George K
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                                          @Axtremus said in Sanctions?:

                                          They get very close to suggesting that Apple has the capability to brick your phone.

                                          Yes. If the (cough) owner can erase it...

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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