So are the Russians surprised by outcomes?
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What is the website for the president of Russia?
What is the website for the government of Russia?
What is the website for the mayor of Moscow?
Go ahead, look at those pages.
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No doubt Ukrainian resistance thus far has been Alamo like and, as bach pointed out anticipated and gamed by the Russians well in advance. My hunch though is that the Kremlin has deliberately reined in the advance upon the urban centres in the hope of forcing a capitulation. In particular, Moscow would want to keep damage to Kyiv - which Putin himself has described as the “spiritual heart of the Russian nation” - at a minimum.
Zelenskyi in the past half hour announced that a Ukrainian delegation will meet a Russian delegation on the Belarus border at the Pripyat River. I suspect terms will be offered to the Ukrainians in the event the final offensive will be avoided.
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@bachophile said in So are the Russians surprised by outcomes?:
Hard to believe after four days Putin is saying,oh man maybe I goofed.
How does the current situation compare to his stated goal for this date?
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@Renauda said in So are the Russians surprised by outcomes?:
No doubt Ukrainian resistance thus far has been Alamo like and, as bach pointed out anticipated and gamed by the Russians well in advance. My hunch though is that the Kremlin has deliberately reined in the advance upon the urban centres in the hope of forcing a capitulation. In particular, Moscow would want to keep damage to Kyiv - which Putin himself has described as the “heart of the Russian nation” - minimised.
Zelensky in the past half hour announced that a Ukrainian delegation will meet a Russian delegation on the Belarus border at the Pripyat River. I suspect terms will be offered to the Ukrainians in the event the final offensive will be avoided.
Russians will press and Ukranians will play for time?
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“I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill
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“I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill
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Putin is scared shitless. He has already put his nuclear weapons forces on high alert, claiming it's because of the sanctions that have been put on him personally. He is scared that the Ukrainians might actually force him out, he is worried about the massive protests going on in Russia, and I believe he has snapped mentally. Lots of options for other world leaders to actually lead, but the US is being led by a moron, so expect Biden to fuck up any chance there might be to stop wwIII.
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I think Putin expected the comedian to have already cut and run and become a government in exile. That’s what’s causing the problems for him. Yes, they expected tough resistance, but they expected a lot of that resistance to crumble when Zelensky left.
Beyond that, do you honestly believe Putin gives a rat’s ass about what the rest of the world thinks? I don’t.
The Brad
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@LuFins-Dad said in So are the Russians surprised by outcomes?:
Beyond that, do you honestly believe Putin gives a rat’s ass about what the rest of the world thinks? I don’t.
Agreed about the "think" part. I don't think he expected the "does" part.
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@Mik said in So are the Russians surprised by outcomes?:
Opposition seems to be worldwide. The cyber part of this is really interesting. Anonymous claims to have had great success in shutting down things .ru.
