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  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

    @mik said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

    @klaus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

    @aqua-letifer said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

    Interesting thread.

    I must say that that thread makes me like crypto more, not less.

    I believe that cryptocurrency is an inherently right-wing, hyper-capitalistic technology built primarily to amplify the wealth of its proponents through a combination of tax avoidance, diminished regulatory oversight and artificially enforced scarcity.

    Hell yes, bring it on!

    What's not to like?

    Ignoring this guy's histrionics, my thing is, it works in ways we haven't grappled with for any extended period, so there may be some pitfalls.

    "What do you mean, Aqua, buying on margin is a great idea!"

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    #182

    @aqua-letifer said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

    @mik said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

    @klaus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

    @aqua-letifer said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

    Interesting thread.

    I must say that that thread makes me like crypto more, not less.

    I believe that cryptocurrency is an inherently right-wing, hyper-capitalistic technology built primarily to amplify the wealth of its proponents through a combination of tax avoidance, diminished regulatory oversight and artificially enforced scarcity.

    Hell yes, bring it on!

    What's not to like?

    Ignoring this guy's histrionics, my thing is, it works in ways we haven't grappled with for any extended period, so there may be some pitfalls.

    "What do you mean, Aqua, buying on margin is a great idea!"

    My first experience to buying on margin was the richest guy in Springfield. He lost it all on margin calls. Maade a big impression on me.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • X xenon

      @aqua-letifer said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

      @xenon said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

      If you like the way the Euro works or the way the gold standard works, you'll like the way crypto works. It's like those, but even moreso.

      That sounds so ridiculous. 😄 I'm taking your word for it, but it sounds like you're saying, "crypto's great! It's like money, but better!"

      Well - I personally don't like the way the Euro works or the gold standard.

      But essentially - you're turning a currency more into a "force of nature" - people have less control over it.

      What I'm saying is that crypto takes away even more control from humans.

      I think the guy you linked was essentially saying the same thing.

      Question is - do we want humans to control and have agency over their the currency?

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      #183

      @xenon said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

      Question is - do we want humans to control and have agency over their the currency?

      Depends on the human.

      I was only joking

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      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

        @xenon said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

        Question is - do we want humans to control and have agency over their the currency?

        Depends on the human.

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        Axtremus
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        #184

        @doctor-phibes said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

        @xenon said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

        Question is - do we want humans to control and have agency over their the currency?

        Depends on the human.

        Under my control is the best, of course.

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        • MikM Mik

          @aqua-letifer said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

          @mik said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

          @klaus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

          @aqua-letifer said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

          Interesting thread.

          I must say that that thread makes me like crypto more, not less.

          I believe that cryptocurrency is an inherently right-wing, hyper-capitalistic technology built primarily to amplify the wealth of its proponents through a combination of tax avoidance, diminished regulatory oversight and artificially enforced scarcity.

          Hell yes, bring it on!

          What's not to like?

          Ignoring this guy's histrionics, my thing is, it works in ways we haven't grappled with for any extended period, so there may be some pitfalls.

          "What do you mean, Aqua, buying on margin is a great idea!"

          My first experience to buying on margin was the richest guy in Springfield. He lost it all on margin calls. Maade a big impression on me.

          CopperC Offline
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          Copper
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          #185

          @mik said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

          He lost it all on margin calls.

          Money makes you stupid

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          • CopperC Copper

            @mik said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

            He lost it all on margin calls.

            Money makes you stupid

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            Axtremus
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            #186

            @copper said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

            Money makes you stupid

            Say, how much money does Donald Trump have?

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            • AxtremusA Axtremus

              @copper said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

              Money makes you stupid

              Say, how much money does Donald Trump have?

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              George K
              wrote on last edited by
              #187

              @axtremus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

              @copper said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

              Money makes you stupid

              Say, how much money does Donald Trump have?

              About 1/20 that of Michael Bloomberg.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_richest_American_politicians

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • George KG George K

                @axtremus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                @copper said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                Money makes you stupid

                Say, how much money does Donald Trump have?

                About 1/20 that of Michael Bloomberg.

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_richest_American_politicians

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                Axtremus
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                #188

                @george-k said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                @axtremus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                @copper said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                Money makes you stupid

                Say, how much money does Donald Trump have?

                About 1/20 that of Michael Bloomberg.

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_richest_American_politicians

                Fun facts:

                1. Michael Bloomberg was born into less money than Donald Trump was.
                2. Since signing The Giving Pledge, Bloomberg has given to philanthropic causes more than 3x Trump’s net worth in monetary terms.
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                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                  @george-k said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                  @axtremus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                  @copper said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                  Money makes you stupid

                  Say, how much money does Donald Trump have?

                  About 1/20 that of Michael Bloomberg.

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_richest_American_politicians

                  Fun facts:

                  1. Michael Bloomberg was born into less money than Donald Trump was.
                  2. Since signing The Giving Pledge, Bloomberg has given to philanthropic causes more than 3x Trump’s net worth in monetary terms.
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                  #189

                  @axtremus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                  Bloomberg has given to philanthropic causes more than 3x Trump’s net worth in monetary terms.

                  So what?

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                    xenon
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                    #190

                    Crypto seems to have a pretty strong correlation with the market right now. Inflation hedge, it is not.

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                      Jolly
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #191

                      And in other news...Walmart is getting into the market...

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        Axtremus
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #192

                        So ... how is everybody's crypto investments doing?

                        Just came across this:
                        https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/05/bitcoin-a-lifeline-for-sex-workers-like-ex-nurse-making-1point3-million.html

                        A good, practical use case for cryptocurrency? You be the judge.

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                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                          So ... how is everybody's crypto investments doing?

                          Just came across this:
                          https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/05/bitcoin-a-lifeline-for-sex-workers-like-ex-nurse-making-1point3-million.html

                          A good, practical use case for cryptocurrency? You be the judge.

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                          Klaus
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #193

                          Privacy would be a concern in that use case. Bitcoin payments are very public. There are ways to obfuscate source and destination, but it's not easy.

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                          • AxtremusA Axtremus

                            So ... how is everybody's crypto investments doing?

                            Just came across this:
                            https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/05/bitcoin-a-lifeline-for-sex-workers-like-ex-nurse-making-1point3-million.html

                            A good, practical use case for cryptocurrency? You be the judge.

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                            xenon
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #194

                            @axtremus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                            So ... how is everybody's crypto investments doing?

                            Just came across this:
                            https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/05/bitcoin-a-lifeline-for-sex-workers-like-ex-nurse-making-1point3-million.html

                            A good, practical use case for cryptocurrency? You be the judge.

                            This is just a way to circumvent laws you don’t agree with.

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                            • X xenon

                              @axtremus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                              So ... how is everybody's crypto investments doing?

                              Just came across this:
                              https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/05/bitcoin-a-lifeline-for-sex-workers-like-ex-nurse-making-1point3-million.html

                              A good, practical use case for cryptocurrency? You be the judge.

                              This is just a way to circumvent laws you don’t agree with.

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                              LuFins Dad
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #195

                              @xenon said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                              @axtremus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                              So ... how is everybody's crypto investments doing?

                              Just came across this:
                              https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/05/bitcoin-a-lifeline-for-sex-workers-like-ex-nurse-making-1point3-million.html

                              A good, practical use case for cryptocurrency? You be the judge.

                              This is just a way to circumvent laws you don’t agree with.

                              They aren’t laws. It’s private companies like PayPal saying no thanks…

                              The Brad

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                              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                @xenon said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                @axtremus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                So ... how is everybody's crypto investments doing?

                                Just came across this:
                                https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/05/bitcoin-a-lifeline-for-sex-workers-like-ex-nurse-making-1point3-million.html

                                A good, practical use case for cryptocurrency? You be the judge.

                                This is just a way to circumvent laws you don’t agree with.

                                They aren’t laws. It’s private companies like PayPal saying no thanks…

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                                xenon
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #196

                                @lufins-dad said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                @xenon said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                @axtremus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                So ... how is everybody's crypto investments doing?

                                Just came across this:
                                https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/05/bitcoin-a-lifeline-for-sex-workers-like-ex-nurse-making-1point3-million.html

                                A good, practical use case for cryptocurrency? You be the judge.

                                This is just a way to circumvent laws you don’t agree with.

                                They aren’t laws. It’s private companies like PayPal saying no thanks…

                                This is a vague statement from the article, but it seems like PayPal and venmo didn’t want to be part of sex work transactions.

                                Knox describes herself as “one of the most outspoken sex workers, particularly for crypto.” Her interest kicked off in 2014, which is when she says several vendors, including PayPal, Square Cash, and Venmo, shut down her accounts because of red flags related to sex work.

                                Knox describes herself as “one of the most outspoken sex workers, particularly for crypto.” Her interest kicked off in 2014, which is when she says several vendors, including PayPal, Square Cash, and Venmo, shut down her accounts because of red flags related to sex work.

                                I’m guessing that’s a legal and moral decision.

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                                  Axtremus
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                                  #197

                                  Another use case for cryptocurrency.

                                  North Korea: Missile programme funded through stolen crypto, UN report says
                                  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-60281129

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                                  • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                    Another use case for cryptocurrency.

                                    North Korea: Missile programme funded through stolen crypto, UN report says
                                    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-60281129

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                                    xenon
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #198

                                    @axtremus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                    Another use case for cryptocurrency.

                                    North Korea: Missile programme funded through stolen crypto, UN report says
                                    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-60281129

                                    If you don’t have ethical qualms about it - the crypto scene is one big bug bounty right now.

                                    Lots of money to be made exploiting weak code.

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                                      Axtremus
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                                      #199

                                      https://www.vox.com/the-goods/22922511/crypto-nfts-sports-betting-money-hobby

                                      Money as a hobby.

                                      "Why (mostly) 20- and 30-something dudes made crypto and sports betting their personality."

                                      The wealth gap among holders of bitcoin is 100 times worse than the US economy: the top 0.01 percent control 27 percent of the 19 million bitcoin currently in circulation.

                                      Not surprised, though probably the first time I see the crypto "wealth gap" called out.

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                                      • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                        https://www.vox.com/the-goods/22922511/crypto-nfts-sports-betting-money-hobby

                                        Money as a hobby.

                                        "Why (mostly) 20- and 30-something dudes made crypto and sports betting their personality."

                                        The wealth gap among holders of bitcoin is 100 times worse than the US economy: the top 0.01 percent control 27 percent of the 19 million bitcoin currently in circulation.

                                        Not surprised, though probably the first time I see the crypto "wealth gap" called out.

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                                        xenon
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #200

                                        @axtremus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                        https://www.vox.com/the-goods/22922511/crypto-nfts-sports-betting-money-hobby

                                        Money as a hobby.

                                        "Why (mostly) 20- and 30-something dudes made crypto and sports betting their personality."

                                        The wealth gap among holders of bitcoin is 100 times worse than the US economy: the top 0.01 percent control 27 percent of the 19 million bitcoin currently in circulation.

                                        Not surprised, though probably the first time I see the crypto "wealth gap" called out.

                                        This feels timeless:

                                        They seemed to work in tech or finance, mostly, and had come to connect with others over the thing they loved most in the world, the wild force driving the feeding frenzy of people storming the bouncer to get inside: money, and making it as quickly as possible

                                        And some of these guys have been making insane amounts of money.

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                                          Axtremus
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                                          #201

                                          https://www.vice.com/en/article/akvnba/moviepass-20-wants-to-track-your-eyeballs-to-make-sure-you-watch-ads

                                          MoviePass 2.0, the idea is to let the users earn cryptocurrency by watching advertisements on their phone, the cryptocurrency can then be cashed in to watch movies in theaters. Proposal includes using the phone’s camera to track your eyeballs to make sure you’re actually watching the advertisements.

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