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  • KlausK Klaus

    @aqua-letifer said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

    Interesting thread.

    I must say that that thread makes me like crypto more, not less.

    I believe that cryptocurrency is an inherently right-wing, hyper-capitalistic technology built primarily to amplify the wealth of its proponents through a combination of tax avoidance, diminished regulatory oversight and artificially enforced scarcity.

    Hell yes, bring it on!

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    Mik
    wrote on last edited by
    #176

    @klaus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

    @aqua-letifer said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

    Interesting thread.

    I must say that that thread makes me like crypto more, not less.

    I believe that cryptocurrency is an inherently right-wing, hyper-capitalistic technology built primarily to amplify the wealth of its proponents through a combination of tax avoidance, diminished regulatory oversight and artificially enforced scarcity.

    Hell yes, bring it on!

    What's not to like?

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • MikM Mik

      @klaus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

      @aqua-letifer said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

      Interesting thread.

      I must say that that thread makes me like crypto more, not less.

      I believe that cryptocurrency is an inherently right-wing, hyper-capitalistic technology built primarily to amplify the wealth of its proponents through a combination of tax avoidance, diminished regulatory oversight and artificially enforced scarcity.

      Hell yes, bring it on!

      What's not to like?

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      Aqua Letifer
      wrote on last edited by
      #177

      @mik said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

      @klaus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

      @aqua-letifer said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

      Interesting thread.

      I must say that that thread makes me like crypto more, not less.

      I believe that cryptocurrency is an inherently right-wing, hyper-capitalistic technology built primarily to amplify the wealth of its proponents through a combination of tax avoidance, diminished regulatory oversight and artificially enforced scarcity.

      Hell yes, bring it on!

      What's not to like?

      Ignoring this guy's histrionics, my thing is, it works in ways we haven't grappled with for any extended period, so there may be some pitfalls.

      "What do you mean, Aqua, buying on margin is a great idea!"

      Please love yourself.

      MikM 1 Reply Last reply
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        xenon
        wrote on last edited by xenon
        #178

        If you like the way the Euro works or the way the gold standard works, you'll like the way crypto works. It's like those, but even moreso.

        Countries would lose control over their own currency (and to be sure, some manage it very poorly).

        Americans should be most wary though - since they currently enjoy having the world's reserve currency.

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        • X xenon

          If you like the way the Euro works or the way the gold standard works, you'll like the way crypto works. It's like those, but even moreso.

          Countries would lose control over their own currency (and to be sure, some manage it very poorly).

          Americans should be most wary though - since they currently enjoy having the world's reserve currency.

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          Aqua Letifer
          wrote on last edited by
          #179

          @xenon said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

          If you like the way the Euro works or the way the gold standard works, you'll like the way crypto works. It's like those, but even moreso.

          That sounds so ridiculous. 😄 I'm taking your word for it, but it sounds like you're saying, "crypto's great! It's like money, but better!"

          Please love yourself.

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          • X xenon

            If you like the way the Euro works or the way the gold standard works, you'll like the way crypto works. It's like those, but even moreso.

            Countries would lose control over their own currency (and to be sure, some manage it very poorly).

            Americans should be most wary though - since they currently enjoy having the world's reserve currency.

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            Doctor Phibes
            wrote on last edited by
            #180

            @xenon said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

            If you like the way the Euro works

            The Euro works?

            I was only joking

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            • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

              @xenon said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

              If you like the way the Euro works or the way the gold standard works, you'll like the way crypto works. It's like those, but even moreso.

              That sounds so ridiculous. 😄 I'm taking your word for it, but it sounds like you're saying, "crypto's great! It's like money, but better!"

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              xenon
              wrote on last edited by xenon
              #181

              @aqua-letifer said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

              @xenon said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

              If you like the way the Euro works or the way the gold standard works, you'll like the way crypto works. It's like those, but even moreso.

              That sounds so ridiculous. 😄 I'm taking your word for it, but it sounds like you're saying, "crypto's great! It's like money, but better!"

              Well - I personally don't like the way the Euro works or the gold standard.

              But essentially - you're turning a currency more into a "force of nature" - people have less control over it.

              What I'm saying is that crypto takes away even more control from humans.

              I think the guy you linked was essentially saying the same thing.

              Question is - do we want humans to control and have agency over their the currency?

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              • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                @mik said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                @klaus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                @aqua-letifer said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                Interesting thread.

                I must say that that thread makes me like crypto more, not less.

                I believe that cryptocurrency is an inherently right-wing, hyper-capitalistic technology built primarily to amplify the wealth of its proponents through a combination of tax avoidance, diminished regulatory oversight and artificially enforced scarcity.

                Hell yes, bring it on!

                What's not to like?

                Ignoring this guy's histrionics, my thing is, it works in ways we haven't grappled with for any extended period, so there may be some pitfalls.

                "What do you mean, Aqua, buying on margin is a great idea!"

                MikM Offline
                MikM Offline
                Mik
                wrote on last edited by
                #182

                @aqua-letifer said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                @mik said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                @klaus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                @aqua-letifer said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                Interesting thread.

                I must say that that thread makes me like crypto more, not less.

                I believe that cryptocurrency is an inherently right-wing, hyper-capitalistic technology built primarily to amplify the wealth of its proponents through a combination of tax avoidance, diminished regulatory oversight and artificially enforced scarcity.

                Hell yes, bring it on!

                What's not to like?

                Ignoring this guy's histrionics, my thing is, it works in ways we haven't grappled with for any extended period, so there may be some pitfalls.

                "What do you mean, Aqua, buying on margin is a great idea!"

                My first experience to buying on margin was the richest guy in Springfield. He lost it all on margin calls. Maade a big impression on me.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

                CopperC 1 Reply Last reply
                • X xenon

                  @aqua-letifer said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                  @xenon said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                  If you like the way the Euro works or the way the gold standard works, you'll like the way crypto works. It's like those, but even moreso.

                  That sounds so ridiculous. 😄 I'm taking your word for it, but it sounds like you're saying, "crypto's great! It's like money, but better!"

                  Well - I personally don't like the way the Euro works or the gold standard.

                  But essentially - you're turning a currency more into a "force of nature" - people have less control over it.

                  What I'm saying is that crypto takes away even more control from humans.

                  I think the guy you linked was essentially saying the same thing.

                  Question is - do we want humans to control and have agency over their the currency?

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                  Doctor Phibes
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #183

                  @xenon said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                  Question is - do we want humans to control and have agency over their the currency?

                  Depends on the human.

                  I was only joking

                  AxtremusA 1 Reply Last reply
                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                    @xenon said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                    Question is - do we want humans to control and have agency over their the currency?

                    Depends on the human.

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                    Axtremus
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #184

                    @doctor-phibes said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                    @xenon said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                    Question is - do we want humans to control and have agency over their the currency?

                    Depends on the human.

                    Under my control is the best, of course.

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                    • MikM Mik

                      @aqua-letifer said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                      @mik said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                      @klaus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                      @aqua-letifer said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                      Interesting thread.

                      I must say that that thread makes me like crypto more, not less.

                      I believe that cryptocurrency is an inherently right-wing, hyper-capitalistic technology built primarily to amplify the wealth of its proponents through a combination of tax avoidance, diminished regulatory oversight and artificially enforced scarcity.

                      Hell yes, bring it on!

                      What's not to like?

                      Ignoring this guy's histrionics, my thing is, it works in ways we haven't grappled with for any extended period, so there may be some pitfalls.

                      "What do you mean, Aqua, buying on margin is a great idea!"

                      My first experience to buying on margin was the richest guy in Springfield. He lost it all on margin calls. Maade a big impression on me.

                      CopperC Offline
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                      Copper
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #185

                      @mik said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                      He lost it all on margin calls.

                      Money makes you stupid

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                      • CopperC Copper

                        @mik said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                        He lost it all on margin calls.

                        Money makes you stupid

                        AxtremusA Away
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                        Axtremus
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #186

                        @copper said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                        Money makes you stupid

                        Say, how much money does Donald Trump have?

                        George KG 1 Reply Last reply
                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                          @copper said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                          Money makes you stupid

                          Say, how much money does Donald Trump have?

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                          George K
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #187

                          @axtremus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                          @copper said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                          Money makes you stupid

                          Say, how much money does Donald Trump have?

                          About 1/20 that of Michael Bloomberg.

                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_richest_American_politicians

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • George KG George K

                            @axtremus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                            @copper said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                            Money makes you stupid

                            Say, how much money does Donald Trump have?

                            About 1/20 that of Michael Bloomberg.

                            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_richest_American_politicians

                            AxtremusA Away
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                            Axtremus
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #188

                            @george-k said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                            @axtremus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                            @copper said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                            Money makes you stupid

                            Say, how much money does Donald Trump have?

                            About 1/20 that of Michael Bloomberg.

                            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_richest_American_politicians

                            Fun facts:

                            1. Michael Bloomberg was born into less money than Donald Trump was.
                            2. Since signing The Giving Pledge, Bloomberg has given to philanthropic causes more than 3x Trump’s net worth in monetary terms.
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                            • AxtremusA Axtremus

                              @george-k said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                              @axtremus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                              @copper said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                              Money makes you stupid

                              Say, how much money does Donald Trump have?

                              About 1/20 that of Michael Bloomberg.

                              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_richest_American_politicians

                              Fun facts:

                              1. Michael Bloomberg was born into less money than Donald Trump was.
                              2. Since signing The Giving Pledge, Bloomberg has given to philanthropic causes more than 3x Trump’s net worth in monetary terms.
                              CopperC Offline
                              CopperC Offline
                              Copper
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #189

                              @axtremus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                              Bloomberg has given to philanthropic causes more than 3x Trump’s net worth in monetary terms.

                              So what?

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                                xenon
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #190

                                Crypto seems to have a pretty strong correlation with the market right now. Inflation hedge, it is not.

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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #191

                                  And in other news...Walmart is getting into the market...

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    Axtremus
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #192

                                    So ... how is everybody's crypto investments doing?

                                    Just came across this:
                                    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/05/bitcoin-a-lifeline-for-sex-workers-like-ex-nurse-making-1point3-million.html

                                    A good, practical use case for cryptocurrency? You be the judge.

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                                    • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                      So ... how is everybody's crypto investments doing?

                                      Just came across this:
                                      https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/05/bitcoin-a-lifeline-for-sex-workers-like-ex-nurse-making-1point3-million.html

                                      A good, practical use case for cryptocurrency? You be the judge.

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                                      Klaus
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #193

                                      Privacy would be a concern in that use case. Bitcoin payments are very public. There are ways to obfuscate source and destination, but it's not easy.

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                                      • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                        So ... how is everybody's crypto investments doing?

                                        Just came across this:
                                        https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/05/bitcoin-a-lifeline-for-sex-workers-like-ex-nurse-making-1point3-million.html

                                        A good, practical use case for cryptocurrency? You be the judge.

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                                        xenon
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #194

                                        @axtremus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                        So ... how is everybody's crypto investments doing?

                                        Just came across this:
                                        https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/05/bitcoin-a-lifeline-for-sex-workers-like-ex-nurse-making-1point3-million.html

                                        A good, practical use case for cryptocurrency? You be the judge.

                                        This is just a way to circumvent laws you don’t agree with.

                                        LuFins DadL 1 Reply Last reply
                                        • X xenon

                                          @axtremus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                          So ... how is everybody's crypto investments doing?

                                          Just came across this:
                                          https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/05/bitcoin-a-lifeline-for-sex-workers-like-ex-nurse-making-1point3-million.html

                                          A good, practical use case for cryptocurrency? You be the judge.

                                          This is just a way to circumvent laws you don’t agree with.

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                                          LuFins Dad
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #195

                                          @xenon said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                          @axtremus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                          So ... how is everybody's crypto investments doing?

                                          Just came across this:
                                          https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/05/bitcoin-a-lifeline-for-sex-workers-like-ex-nurse-making-1point3-million.html

                                          A good, practical use case for cryptocurrency? You be the judge.

                                          This is just a way to circumvent laws you don’t agree with.

                                          They aren’t laws. It’s private companies like PayPal saying no thanks…

                                          The Brad

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