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  • X xenon

    If you like the way the Euro works or the way the gold standard works, you'll like the way crypto works. It's like those, but even moreso.

    Countries would lose control over their own currency (and to be sure, some manage it very poorly).

    Americans should be most wary though - since they currently enjoy having the world's reserve currency.

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    Aqua Letifer
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    #179

    @xenon said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

    If you like the way the Euro works or the way the gold standard works, you'll like the way crypto works. It's like those, but even moreso.

    That sounds so ridiculous. šŸ˜„ I'm taking your word for it, but it sounds like you're saying, "crypto's great! It's like money, but better!"

    Please love yourself.

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    • X xenon

      If you like the way the Euro works or the way the gold standard works, you'll like the way crypto works. It's like those, but even moreso.

      Countries would lose control over their own currency (and to be sure, some manage it very poorly).

      Americans should be most wary though - since they currently enjoy having the world's reserve currency.

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      Doctor Phibes
      wrote on last edited by
      #180

      @xenon said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

      If you like the way the Euro works

      The Euro works?

      I was only joking

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      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

        @xenon said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

        If you like the way the Euro works or the way the gold standard works, you'll like the way crypto works. It's like those, but even moreso.

        That sounds so ridiculous. šŸ˜„ I'm taking your word for it, but it sounds like you're saying, "crypto's great! It's like money, but better!"

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        wrote on last edited by xenon
        #181

        @aqua-letifer said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

        @xenon said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

        If you like the way the Euro works or the way the gold standard works, you'll like the way crypto works. It's like those, but even moreso.

        That sounds so ridiculous. šŸ˜„ I'm taking your word for it, but it sounds like you're saying, "crypto's great! It's like money, but better!"

        Well - I personally don't like the way the Euro works or the gold standard.

        But essentially - you're turning a currency more into a "force of nature" - people have less control over it.

        What I'm saying is that crypto takes away even more control from humans.

        I think the guy you linked was essentially saying the same thing.

        Question is - do we want humans to control and have agency over their the currency?

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        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

          @mik said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

          @klaus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

          @aqua-letifer said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

          Interesting thread.

          I must say that that thread makes me like crypto more, not less.

          I believe that cryptocurrency is an inherently right-wing, hyper-capitalistic technology built primarily to amplify the wealth of its proponents through a combination of tax avoidance, diminished regulatory oversight and artificially enforced scarcity.

          Hell yes, bring it on!

          What's not to like?

          Ignoring this guy's histrionics, my thing is, it works in ways we haven't grappled with for any extended period, so there may be some pitfalls.

          "What do you mean, Aqua, buying on margin is a great idea!"

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          Mik
          wrote on last edited by
          #182

          @aqua-letifer said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

          @mik said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

          @klaus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

          @aqua-letifer said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

          Interesting thread.

          I must say that that thread makes me like crypto more, not less.

          I believe that cryptocurrency is an inherently right-wing, hyper-capitalistic technology built primarily to amplify the wealth of its proponents through a combination of tax avoidance, diminished regulatory oversight and artificially enforced scarcity.

          Hell yes, bring it on!

          What's not to like?

          Ignoring this guy's histrionics, my thing is, it works in ways we haven't grappled with for any extended period, so there may be some pitfalls.

          "What do you mean, Aqua, buying on margin is a great idea!"

          My first experience to buying on margin was the richest guy in Springfield. He lost it all on margin calls. Maade a big impression on me.

          ā€œI am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.ā€ ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • X xenon

            @aqua-letifer said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

            @xenon said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

            If you like the way the Euro works or the way the gold standard works, you'll like the way crypto works. It's like those, but even moreso.

            That sounds so ridiculous. šŸ˜„ I'm taking your word for it, but it sounds like you're saying, "crypto's great! It's like money, but better!"

            Well - I personally don't like the way the Euro works or the gold standard.

            But essentially - you're turning a currency more into a "force of nature" - people have less control over it.

            What I'm saying is that crypto takes away even more control from humans.

            I think the guy you linked was essentially saying the same thing.

            Question is - do we want humans to control and have agency over their the currency?

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            Doctor Phibes
            wrote on last edited by
            #183

            @xenon said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

            Question is - do we want humans to control and have agency over their the currency?

            Depends on the human.

            I was only joking

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            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

              @xenon said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

              Question is - do we want humans to control and have agency over their the currency?

              Depends on the human.

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              Axtremus
              wrote on last edited by
              #184

              @doctor-phibes said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

              @xenon said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

              Question is - do we want humans to control and have agency over their the currency?

              Depends on the human.

              Under my control is the best, of course.

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              • MikM Mik

                @aqua-letifer said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                @mik said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                @klaus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                @aqua-letifer said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                Interesting thread.

                I must say that that thread makes me like crypto more, not less.

                I believe that cryptocurrency is an inherently right-wing, hyper-capitalistic technology built primarily to amplify the wealth of its proponents through a combination of tax avoidance, diminished regulatory oversight and artificially enforced scarcity.

                Hell yes, bring it on!

                What's not to like?

                Ignoring this guy's histrionics, my thing is, it works in ways we haven't grappled with for any extended period, so there may be some pitfalls.

                "What do you mean, Aqua, buying on margin is a great idea!"

                My first experience to buying on margin was the richest guy in Springfield. He lost it all on margin calls. Maade a big impression on me.

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                Copper
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                #185

                @mik said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                He lost it all on margin calls.

                Money makes you stupid

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                • CopperC Copper

                  @mik said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                  He lost it all on margin calls.

                  Money makes you stupid

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                  Axtremus
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #186

                  @copper said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                  Money makes you stupid

                  Say, how much money does Donald Trump have?

                  George KG 1 Reply Last reply
                  • AxtremusA Axtremus

                    @copper said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                    Money makes you stupid

                    Say, how much money does Donald Trump have?

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                    George K
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #187

                    @axtremus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                    @copper said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                    Money makes you stupid

                    Say, how much money does Donald Trump have?

                    About 1/20 that of Michael Bloomberg.

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_richest_American_politicians

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • George KG George K

                      @axtremus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                      @copper said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                      Money makes you stupid

                      Say, how much money does Donald Trump have?

                      About 1/20 that of Michael Bloomberg.

                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_richest_American_politicians

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                      Axtremus
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #188

                      @george-k said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                      @axtremus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                      @copper said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                      Money makes you stupid

                      Say, how much money does Donald Trump have?

                      About 1/20 that of Michael Bloomberg.

                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_richest_American_politicians

                      Fun facts:

                      1. Michael Bloomberg was born into less money than Donald Trump was.
                      2. Since signing The Giving Pledge, Bloomberg has given to philanthropic causes more than 3x Trump’s net worth in monetary terms.
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                      • AxtremusA Axtremus

                        @george-k said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                        @axtremus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                        @copper said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                        Money makes you stupid

                        Say, how much money does Donald Trump have?

                        About 1/20 that of Michael Bloomberg.

                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_richest_American_politicians

                        Fun facts:

                        1. Michael Bloomberg was born into less money than Donald Trump was.
                        2. Since signing The Giving Pledge, Bloomberg has given to philanthropic causes more than 3x Trump’s net worth in monetary terms.
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                        Copper
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                        #189

                        @axtremus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                        Bloomberg has given to philanthropic causes more than 3x Trump’s net worth in monetary terms.

                        So what?

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                          xenon
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #190

                          Crypto seems to have a pretty strong correlation with the market right now. Inflation hedge, it is not.

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #191

                            And in other news...Walmart is getting into the market...

                            ā€œCry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!ā€

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • AxtremusA Away
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                              Axtremus
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #192

                              So ... how is everybody's crypto investments doing?

                              Just came across this:
                              https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/05/bitcoin-a-lifeline-for-sex-workers-like-ex-nurse-making-1point3-million.html

                              A good, practical use case for cryptocurrency? You be the judge.

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                              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                So ... how is everybody's crypto investments doing?

                                Just came across this:
                                https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/05/bitcoin-a-lifeline-for-sex-workers-like-ex-nurse-making-1point3-million.html

                                A good, practical use case for cryptocurrency? You be the judge.

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                                Klaus
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #193

                                Privacy would be a concern in that use case. Bitcoin payments are very public. There are ways to obfuscate source and destination, but it's not easy.

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                                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                  So ... how is everybody's crypto investments doing?

                                  Just came across this:
                                  https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/05/bitcoin-a-lifeline-for-sex-workers-like-ex-nurse-making-1point3-million.html

                                  A good, practical use case for cryptocurrency? You be the judge.

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                                  xenon
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #194

                                  @axtremus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                  So ... how is everybody's crypto investments doing?

                                  Just came across this:
                                  https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/05/bitcoin-a-lifeline-for-sex-workers-like-ex-nurse-making-1point3-million.html

                                  A good, practical use case for cryptocurrency? You be the judge.

                                  This is just a way to circumvent laws you don’t agree with.

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                                  • X xenon

                                    @axtremus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                    So ... how is everybody's crypto investments doing?

                                    Just came across this:
                                    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/05/bitcoin-a-lifeline-for-sex-workers-like-ex-nurse-making-1point3-million.html

                                    A good, practical use case for cryptocurrency? You be the judge.

                                    This is just a way to circumvent laws you don’t agree with.

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                                    LuFins Dad
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #195

                                    @xenon said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                    @axtremus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                    So ... how is everybody's crypto investments doing?

                                    Just came across this:
                                    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/05/bitcoin-a-lifeline-for-sex-workers-like-ex-nurse-making-1point3-million.html

                                    A good, practical use case for cryptocurrency? You be the judge.

                                    This is just a way to circumvent laws you don’t agree with.

                                    They aren’t laws. It’s private companies like PayPal saying no thanks…

                                    The Brad

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                                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                      @xenon said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                      @axtremus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                      So ... how is everybody's crypto investments doing?

                                      Just came across this:
                                      https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/05/bitcoin-a-lifeline-for-sex-workers-like-ex-nurse-making-1point3-million.html

                                      A good, practical use case for cryptocurrency? You be the judge.

                                      This is just a way to circumvent laws you don’t agree with.

                                      They aren’t laws. It’s private companies like PayPal saying no thanks…

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                                      xenon
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #196

                                      @lufins-dad said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                      @xenon said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                      @axtremus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                      So ... how is everybody's crypto investments doing?

                                      Just came across this:
                                      https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/05/bitcoin-a-lifeline-for-sex-workers-like-ex-nurse-making-1point3-million.html

                                      A good, practical use case for cryptocurrency? You be the judge.

                                      This is just a way to circumvent laws you don’t agree with.

                                      They aren’t laws. It’s private companies like PayPal saying no thanks…

                                      This is a vague statement from the article, but it seems like PayPal and venmo didn’t want to be part of sex work transactions.

                                      Knox describes herself as ā€œone of the most outspoken sex workers, particularly for crypto.ā€ Her interest kicked off in 2014, which is when she says several vendors, including PayPal, Square Cash, and Venmo, shut down her accounts because of red flags related to sex work.

                                      Knox describes herself as ā€œone of the most outspoken sex workers, particularly for crypto.ā€ Her interest kicked off in 2014, which is when she says several vendors, including PayPal, Square Cash, and Venmo, shut down her accounts because of red flags related to sex work.

                                      I’m guessing that’s a legal and moral decision.

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                                        Axtremus
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                                        #197

                                        Another use case for cryptocurrency.

                                        North Korea: Missile programme funded through stolen crypto, UN report says
                                        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-60281129

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                                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                          Another use case for cryptocurrency.

                                          North Korea: Missile programme funded through stolen crypto, UN report says
                                          https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-60281129

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                                          xenon
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #198

                                          @axtremus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                          Another use case for cryptocurrency.

                                          North Korea: Missile programme funded through stolen crypto, UN report says
                                          https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-60281129

                                          If you don’t have ethical qualms about it - the crypto scene is one big bug bounty right now.

                                          Lots of money to be made exploiting weak code.

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