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The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread

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  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

    @lufins-dad said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

    et’s see if she is getting new EarPods, a diamond necklace, or a lovely card for Christmas…

    So Karla really liked the card she got...

    Seriously? The money I put into long-term holds that are supposed to be pretty secure. I had lost about 30% over the two months but am closing quickly towards being in the black again. Volatile is correct...

    On the other side, two weeks ago I put in $10 to just have some fun poking around at the day trading end of it. Trying to time the dips and the swings of the currencies (especially the new ones). The idea is to try and gain 10% plus the transaction fee back from every trade. I'm not quite hitting that target because the transaction fees seem to be fairly high for the smaller amounts (Transferring $11.50 from BICO to POLY cost me $.40) I have to assume that there are minimum transaction fees that apply? At any rate, I've got that $10 up to $16.80 over the last two weeks, so that's kind of fun... Just 295 successful transactions to go...

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    Axtremus
    wrote on last edited by
    #173

    @lufins-dad said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

    On the other side, two weeks ago I put in $10 to just have some fun poking around at the day trading end of it. Trying to time the dips and the swings of the currencies (especially the new ones). The idea is to try and gain 10% plus the transaction fee back from every trade. I'm not quite hitting that target because the transaction fees seem to be fairly high for the smaller amounts (Transferring $11.50 from BICO to POLY cost me $.40) I have to assume that there are minimum transaction fees that apply? At any rate, I've got that $10 up to $16.80 over the last two weeks, so that's kind of fun... Just 295 successful transactions to go...

    Are you doing all these trading in a tax-excempt or tax-deferred account? If not, presumably every trade is a tax event and reporting 300+ tax events would be non-trivial. In any case, good luck with your trading.

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    • Aqua LetiferA Offline
      Aqua LetiferA Offline
      Aqua Letifer
      wrote on last edited by
      #174

      Interesting thread.

      Please love yourself.

      KlausK 1 Reply Last reply
      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

        Interesting thread.

        KlausK Offline
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        Klaus
        wrote on last edited by
        #175

        @aqua-letifer said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

        Interesting thread.

        I must say that that thread makes me like crypto more, not less.

        I believe that cryptocurrency is an inherently right-wing, hyper-capitalistic technology built primarily to amplify the wealth of its proponents through a combination of tax avoidance, diminished regulatory oversight and artificially enforced scarcity.

        Hell yes, bring it on!

        MikM 1 Reply Last reply
        • KlausK Klaus

          @aqua-letifer said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

          Interesting thread.

          I must say that that thread makes me like crypto more, not less.

          I believe that cryptocurrency is an inherently right-wing, hyper-capitalistic technology built primarily to amplify the wealth of its proponents through a combination of tax avoidance, diminished regulatory oversight and artificially enforced scarcity.

          Hell yes, bring it on!

          MikM Offline
          MikM Offline
          Mik
          wrote on last edited by
          #176

          @klaus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

          @aqua-letifer said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

          Interesting thread.

          I must say that that thread makes me like crypto more, not less.

          I believe that cryptocurrency is an inherently right-wing, hyper-capitalistic technology built primarily to amplify the wealth of its proponents through a combination of tax avoidance, diminished regulatory oversight and artificially enforced scarcity.

          Hell yes, bring it on!

          What's not to like?

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

          Aqua LetiferA 1 Reply Last reply
          • MikM Mik

            @klaus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

            @aqua-letifer said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

            Interesting thread.

            I must say that that thread makes me like crypto more, not less.

            I believe that cryptocurrency is an inherently right-wing, hyper-capitalistic technology built primarily to amplify the wealth of its proponents through a combination of tax avoidance, diminished regulatory oversight and artificially enforced scarcity.

            Hell yes, bring it on!

            What's not to like?

            Aqua LetiferA Offline
            Aqua LetiferA Offline
            Aqua Letifer
            wrote on last edited by
            #177

            @mik said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

            @klaus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

            @aqua-letifer said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

            Interesting thread.

            I must say that that thread makes me like crypto more, not less.

            I believe that cryptocurrency is an inherently right-wing, hyper-capitalistic technology built primarily to amplify the wealth of its proponents through a combination of tax avoidance, diminished regulatory oversight and artificially enforced scarcity.

            Hell yes, bring it on!

            What's not to like?

            Ignoring this guy's histrionics, my thing is, it works in ways we haven't grappled with for any extended period, so there may be some pitfalls.

            "What do you mean, Aqua, buying on margin is a great idea!"

            Please love yourself.

            MikM 1 Reply Last reply
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              xenon
              wrote on last edited by xenon
              #178

              If you like the way the Euro works or the way the gold standard works, you'll like the way crypto works. It's like those, but even moreso.

              Countries would lose control over their own currency (and to be sure, some manage it very poorly).

              Americans should be most wary though - since they currently enjoy having the world's reserve currency.

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              • X xenon

                If you like the way the Euro works or the way the gold standard works, you'll like the way crypto works. It's like those, but even moreso.

                Countries would lose control over their own currency (and to be sure, some manage it very poorly).

                Americans should be most wary though - since they currently enjoy having the world's reserve currency.

                Aqua LetiferA Offline
                Aqua LetiferA Offline
                Aqua Letifer
                wrote on last edited by
                #179

                @xenon said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                If you like the way the Euro works or the way the gold standard works, you'll like the way crypto works. It's like those, but even moreso.

                That sounds so ridiculous. 😄 I'm taking your word for it, but it sounds like you're saying, "crypto's great! It's like money, but better!"

                Please love yourself.

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                • X xenon

                  If you like the way the Euro works or the way the gold standard works, you'll like the way crypto works. It's like those, but even moreso.

                  Countries would lose control over their own currency (and to be sure, some manage it very poorly).

                  Americans should be most wary though - since they currently enjoy having the world's reserve currency.

                  Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                  Doctor Phibes
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #180

                  @xenon said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                  If you like the way the Euro works

                  The Euro works?

                  I was only joking

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                  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                    @xenon said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                    If you like the way the Euro works or the way the gold standard works, you'll like the way crypto works. It's like those, but even moreso.

                    That sounds so ridiculous. 😄 I'm taking your word for it, but it sounds like you're saying, "crypto's great! It's like money, but better!"

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                    xenon
                    wrote on last edited by xenon
                    #181

                    @aqua-letifer said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                    @xenon said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                    If you like the way the Euro works or the way the gold standard works, you'll like the way crypto works. It's like those, but even moreso.

                    That sounds so ridiculous. 😄 I'm taking your word for it, but it sounds like you're saying, "crypto's great! It's like money, but better!"

                    Well - I personally don't like the way the Euro works or the gold standard.

                    But essentially - you're turning a currency more into a "force of nature" - people have less control over it.

                    What I'm saying is that crypto takes away even more control from humans.

                    I think the guy you linked was essentially saying the same thing.

                    Question is - do we want humans to control and have agency over their the currency?

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                    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                      @mik said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                      @klaus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                      @aqua-letifer said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                      Interesting thread.

                      I must say that that thread makes me like crypto more, not less.

                      I believe that cryptocurrency is an inherently right-wing, hyper-capitalistic technology built primarily to amplify the wealth of its proponents through a combination of tax avoidance, diminished regulatory oversight and artificially enforced scarcity.

                      Hell yes, bring it on!

                      What's not to like?

                      Ignoring this guy's histrionics, my thing is, it works in ways we haven't grappled with for any extended period, so there may be some pitfalls.

                      "What do you mean, Aqua, buying on margin is a great idea!"

                      MikM Offline
                      MikM Offline
                      Mik
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #182

                      @aqua-letifer said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                      @mik said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                      @klaus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                      @aqua-letifer said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                      Interesting thread.

                      I must say that that thread makes me like crypto more, not less.

                      I believe that cryptocurrency is an inherently right-wing, hyper-capitalistic technology built primarily to amplify the wealth of its proponents through a combination of tax avoidance, diminished regulatory oversight and artificially enforced scarcity.

                      Hell yes, bring it on!

                      What's not to like?

                      Ignoring this guy's histrionics, my thing is, it works in ways we haven't grappled with for any extended period, so there may be some pitfalls.

                      "What do you mean, Aqua, buying on margin is a great idea!"

                      My first experience to buying on margin was the richest guy in Springfield. He lost it all on margin calls. Maade a big impression on me.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

                      CopperC 1 Reply Last reply
                      • X xenon

                        @aqua-letifer said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                        @xenon said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                        If you like the way the Euro works or the way the gold standard works, you'll like the way crypto works. It's like those, but even moreso.

                        That sounds so ridiculous. 😄 I'm taking your word for it, but it sounds like you're saying, "crypto's great! It's like money, but better!"

                        Well - I personally don't like the way the Euro works or the gold standard.

                        But essentially - you're turning a currency more into a "force of nature" - people have less control over it.

                        What I'm saying is that crypto takes away even more control from humans.

                        I think the guy you linked was essentially saying the same thing.

                        Question is - do we want humans to control and have agency over their the currency?

                        Doctor PhibesD Offline
                        Doctor PhibesD Offline
                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #183

                        @xenon said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                        Question is - do we want humans to control and have agency over their the currency?

                        Depends on the human.

                        I was only joking

                        AxtremusA 1 Reply Last reply
                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                          @xenon said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                          Question is - do we want humans to control and have agency over their the currency?

                          Depends on the human.

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                          Axtremus
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #184

                          @doctor-phibes said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                          @xenon said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                          Question is - do we want humans to control and have agency over their the currency?

                          Depends on the human.

                          Under my control is the best, of course.

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                          • MikM Mik

                            @aqua-letifer said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                            @mik said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                            @klaus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                            @aqua-letifer said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                            Interesting thread.

                            I must say that that thread makes me like crypto more, not less.

                            I believe that cryptocurrency is an inherently right-wing, hyper-capitalistic technology built primarily to amplify the wealth of its proponents through a combination of tax avoidance, diminished regulatory oversight and artificially enforced scarcity.

                            Hell yes, bring it on!

                            What's not to like?

                            Ignoring this guy's histrionics, my thing is, it works in ways we haven't grappled with for any extended period, so there may be some pitfalls.

                            "What do you mean, Aqua, buying on margin is a great idea!"

                            My first experience to buying on margin was the richest guy in Springfield. He lost it all on margin calls. Maade a big impression on me.

                            CopperC Offline
                            CopperC Offline
                            Copper
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #185

                            @mik said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                            He lost it all on margin calls.

                            Money makes you stupid

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                            • CopperC Copper

                              @mik said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                              He lost it all on margin calls.

                              Money makes you stupid

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                              Axtremus
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #186

                              @copper said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                              Money makes you stupid

                              Say, how much money does Donald Trump have?

                              George KG 1 Reply Last reply
                              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                @copper said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                Money makes you stupid

                                Say, how much money does Donald Trump have?

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                                George K
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #187

                                @axtremus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                @copper said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                Money makes you stupid

                                Say, how much money does Donald Trump have?

                                About 1/20 that of Michael Bloomberg.

                                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_richest_American_politicians

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • George KG George K

                                  @axtremus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                  @copper said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                  Money makes you stupid

                                  Say, how much money does Donald Trump have?

                                  About 1/20 that of Michael Bloomberg.

                                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_richest_American_politicians

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                                  Axtremus
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #188

                                  @george-k said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                  @axtremus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                  @copper said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                  Money makes you stupid

                                  Say, how much money does Donald Trump have?

                                  About 1/20 that of Michael Bloomberg.

                                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_richest_American_politicians

                                  Fun facts:

                                  1. Michael Bloomberg was born into less money than Donald Trump was.
                                  2. Since signing The Giving Pledge, Bloomberg has given to philanthropic causes more than 3x Trump’s net worth in monetary terms.
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                                  • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                    @george-k said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                    @axtremus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                    @copper said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                    Money makes you stupid

                                    Say, how much money does Donald Trump have?

                                    About 1/20 that of Michael Bloomberg.

                                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_richest_American_politicians

                                    Fun facts:

                                    1. Michael Bloomberg was born into less money than Donald Trump was.
                                    2. Since signing The Giving Pledge, Bloomberg has given to philanthropic causes more than 3x Trump’s net worth in monetary terms.
                                    CopperC Offline
                                    CopperC Offline
                                    Copper
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #189

                                    @axtremus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                    Bloomberg has given to philanthropic causes more than 3x Trump’s net worth in monetary terms.

                                    So what?

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                                      xenon
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #190

                                      Crypto seems to have a pretty strong correlation with the market right now. Inflation hedge, it is not.

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                                        Jolly
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #191

                                        And in other news...Walmart is getting into the market...

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                          Axtremus
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #192

                                          So ... how is everybody's crypto investments doing?

                                          Just came across this:
                                          https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/05/bitcoin-a-lifeline-for-sex-workers-like-ex-nurse-making-1point3-million.html

                                          A good, practical use case for cryptocurrency? You be the judge.

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