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  • George KG George K

    The armorer speaks:

    The 24-year-old head armorer in charge of guns on Alec Baldwin film where cinematographer Halyna Hutchins was tragically shot and killed on Thursday had admitted she wasn't sure she was ready for the job in an interview before filming started.

    'I almost didn't take the job because I wasn't sure if I was ready, but doing it, it went really smoothly,' Hannah Gutierrez-Reed said in a podcast interview last month after leading the firearms department for The Old Way, starring Nicolas Cage - her first time as head armorer.

    She also admitted in the podcast interview she found loading blanks into a gun 'the scariest' thing because she did not know how to do it and had sought help from her father, legendary gunsmith Thell Reed, to get over the fear.

    It comes as the film crew revealed they walked off set hours before the fatal accident over safety fears after firearms were accidentally discharged three times - including once by Baldwin's stunt double who had been told the gun was not loaded, and twice in a closed cabin.

    A search warrant released Friday said that Gutierrez-Reed laid out three prop guns on a cart outside the filming location, and first assistant director Dave Halls grabbed the gun from the cart and brought it inside to Baldwin, unaware that it was loaded with live rounds.

    'Cold gun!' shouted Halls before handing the gun to Baldwin, using the phrase to signal to cast and crew that the gun was safe to fire for the scene, the warrant said.

    Seconds later, filming a scene inside an Old West-style church, Baldwin apparently aimed towards the camera and pulled the trigger, accidentally killing Hutchins as she filmed him, and injuring director Joel Souza, who stood behind her.

    Neither Halls nor Gutierrez-Reed immediately returned messages from DailyMail.com late on Friday. Neither has been charged or named as a criminal suspect in the case, though a police investigation is ongoing.

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    It comes as the film crew revealed they walked off set hours before the fatal accident over safety fears after firearms were accidentally discharged three times - including once by Baldwin's stunt double who had been told the gun was not loaded, and twice in a closed cabin.

    It would be surreal if there had really been incident after incident of live ammo being accidentally shot on that set. If that's not BS, which I have to assume it is, then the whole production was insane, not least Baldwin and the people who willingly stood in the line of ambiguously live fire.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • George KG George K

      The armorer speaks:

      The 24-year-old head armorer in charge of guns on Alec Baldwin film where cinematographer Halyna Hutchins was tragically shot and killed on Thursday had admitted she wasn't sure she was ready for the job in an interview before filming started.

      'I almost didn't take the job because I wasn't sure if I was ready, but doing it, it went really smoothly,' Hannah Gutierrez-Reed said in a podcast interview last month after leading the firearms department for The Old Way, starring Nicolas Cage - her first time as head armorer.

      She also admitted in the podcast interview she found loading blanks into a gun 'the scariest' thing because she did not know how to do it and had sought help from her father, legendary gunsmith Thell Reed, to get over the fear.

      It comes as the film crew revealed they walked off set hours before the fatal accident over safety fears after firearms were accidentally discharged three times - including once by Baldwin's stunt double who had been told the gun was not loaded, and twice in a closed cabin.

      A search warrant released Friday said that Gutierrez-Reed laid out three prop guns on a cart outside the filming location, and first assistant director Dave Halls grabbed the gun from the cart and brought it inside to Baldwin, unaware that it was loaded with live rounds.

      'Cold gun!' shouted Halls before handing the gun to Baldwin, using the phrase to signal to cast and crew that the gun was safe to fire for the scene, the warrant said.

      Seconds later, filming a scene inside an Old West-style church, Baldwin apparently aimed towards the camera and pulled the trigger, accidentally killing Hutchins as she filmed him, and injuring director Joel Souza, who stood behind her.

      Neither Halls nor Gutierrez-Reed immediately returned messages from DailyMail.com late on Friday. Neither has been charged or named as a criminal suspect in the case, though a police investigation is ongoing.

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      LuFins Dad
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      @george-k said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:

      It comes as the film crew revealed they walked off set hours before the fatal accident over safety fears after firearms were accidentally discharged three times - including once by Baldwin's stunt double who had been told the gun was not loaded, and twice in a closed cabin.

      After the first incident the armorer has to be fired… Three times? And you are not double or triple checking the weapons? The armorer bears some responsibility, but so do the director and producers at that point…

      The Brad

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        Sounds like shoestring production meets incompetent armorer.

        Baldwin is not criminally liable. As producer, he's going to incur shared liability in the civil suit.

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        @jolly said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:

        Sounds like shoestring production meets incompetent armorer.

        Supposedly, the armorer, while young is the daughter of a legendary armorer - and she's done other films as an armorer. This film, she was the lead armorer, a new role. Still, regardless of whether a novice or a legend, the procedures should be set so that mistakes don't happen. When they give chemo at most hospitals, there are two people who review the drugs and dosage before the drugs are given. I would think two people should review the weapon BEFORE it is handed to an actor - EVEN if it was checked before. Your point that there was NO REASON for live ammo on a set - should nearly be a law. Alternatively, if someone wanted a gun with live ammo on a set, it should have a trigger lock on it and red tape on the handle.

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          LuFins Dad
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          Okay, the more I think about it, the fishier things get. 1 discharge could totally be an accident. 4? That sounds like somebody is intentionally loading live rounds after the weapons have been supposedly checked…

          The Brad

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          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

            Okay, the more I think about it, the fishier things get. 1 discharge could totally be an accident. 4? That sounds like somebody is intentionally loading live rounds after the weapons have been supposedly checked…

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            @lufins-dad said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:

            Okay, the more I think about it, the fishier things get. 1 discharge could totally be an accident. 4? That sounds like somebody is intentionally loading live rounds after the weapons have been supposedly checked…

            The story that live ammo had been accidentally discharged on set "several times", to the point that crew members were walking over it, beggars belief. If it's true, then something is insane.

            Education is extremely important.

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              @lufins-dad said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:

              Okay, the more I think about it, the fishier things get. 1 discharge could totally be an accident. 4? That sounds like somebody is intentionally loading live rounds after the weapons have been supposedly checked…

              The story that live ammo had been accidentally discharged on set "several times", to the point that crew members were walking over it, beggars belief. If it's true, then something is insane.

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              @horace said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:

              @lufins-dad said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:

              Okay, the more I think about it, the fishier things get. 1 discharge could totally be an accident. 4? That sounds like somebody is intentionally loading live rounds after the weapons have been supposedly checked…

              The story that live ammo had been accidentally discharged on set "several times", to the point that crew members were walking over it, beggars belief. If it's true, then something is insane.

              And they kept filming? With real guns? At this point, Baldwin does become culpable as the producer for not pausing production after the second incident…

              The Brad

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                I smell a Mysterie!

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                The Brad

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                  I hate to say it, but this sounds suspiciously like 'people making shit up'.

                  I was only joking

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                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      How soon before the Onion releases an article that Alec Baldwin is changing his name to Alex Baldwin to mask his previous identity?

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                        More details of where and how the shooting occurred:

                        https://nypost.com/2021/10/25/alec-baldwin-was-practicing-pointing-revolver-at-camera-during-fatal-prop-gun-mishap/

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • George KG George K

                          More details of where and how the shooting occurred:

                          https://nypost.com/2021/10/25/alec-baldwin-was-practicing-pointing-revolver-at-camera-during-fatal-prop-gun-mishap/

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                          @george-k said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:

                          More details of where and how the shooting occurred:

                          https://nypost.com/2021/10/25/alec-baldwin-was-practicing-pointing-revolver-at-camera-during-fatal-prop-gun-mishap/

                          Nowhere in the story was there any claim about live fire incidents causing a walkout. But there was mention of union workers having walked over money and housing issues, then being replaced by non-union workers. Hmm, I wonder who made up the story about lots of live fire incidents before the accidental shooting?

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            The NYP article sounds a lot closer to the truth. Most likely a single shot, with a pass-through hitting the second person.

                            Just as a SWAG, chances are the revolver is a SAA Colt, most likely a .45LC., although it could be a 38-40 or 44-40.

                            There are multiple reports the gun was used for plinking and target practice, while not filming. That's a red -rocket no-no. Civil liability is a given and the only question is whether the armorer will face criminal charges.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              jon-nyc
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                              #74

                              AFC0CB6F-96A9-4C8B-BAF2-C13B542B3880.jpeg

                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                Trump Jr is selling those on his website. Which is exactly the type of 3rd grade behavior we've come to expect.

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                                  #76

                                  Nice.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    If someone handed me a gun and told me it was "cold", meaning there was no "live" ammo in it, I personally would check it myself to verify that.

                                    And if I was not capable of doing that, I would have no business handling a firearm. Period.

                                    Just sayin'...

                                    We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
                                    Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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                                      Trump Jr is selling those on his website. Which is exactly the type of 3rd grade behavior we've come to expect.

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                                      @89th said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:

                                      Trump Jr is selling those on his website. Which is exactly the type of 3rd grade behavior we've come to expect.

                                      The asshole doesn't fall far from the tree.

                                      I was only joking

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                                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                        @89th said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:

                                        Trump Jr is selling those on his website. Which is exactly the type of 3rd grade behavior we've come to expect.

                                        The asshole doesn't fall far from the tree.

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                                        @doctor-phibes said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:

                                        @89th said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:

                                        Trump Jr is selling those on his website. Which is exactly the type of 3rd grade behavior we've come to expect.

                                        The asshole dingleberry doesn't fall far from the tree asshole.

                                        FIFY.

                                        Please love yourself.

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                                          jon-nyc
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                                          Word on the street is Baldwin is asking when shooting will resume….

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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