Alec Baldwin what the fuck
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More details of where and how the shooting occurred:
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More details of where and how the shooting occurred:
@george-k said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:
More details of where and how the shooting occurred:
Nowhere in the story was there any claim about live fire incidents causing a walkout. But there was mention of union workers having walked over money and housing issues, then being replaced by non-union workers. Hmm, I wonder who made up the story about lots of live fire incidents before the accidental shooting?
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The NYP article sounds a lot closer to the truth. Most likely a single shot, with a pass-through hitting the second person.
Just as a SWAG, chances are the revolver is a SAA Colt, most likely a .45LC., although it could be a 38-40 or 44-40.
There are multiple reports the gun was used for plinking and target practice, while not filming. That's a red -rocket no-no. Civil liability is a given and the only question is whether the armorer will face criminal charges.
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Trump Jr is selling those on his website. Which is exactly the type of 3rd grade behavior we've come to expect.
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If someone handed me a gun and told me it was "cold", meaning there was no "live" ammo in it, I personally would check it myself to verify that.
And if I was not capable of doing that, I would have no business handling a firearm. Period.
Just sayin'...
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Trump Jr is selling those on his website. Which is exactly the type of 3rd grade behavior we've come to expect.
@89th said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:
Trump Jr is selling those on his website. Which is exactly the type of 3rd grade behavior we've come to expect.
The asshole doesn't fall far from the tree.
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@89th said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:
Trump Jr is selling those on his website. Which is exactly the type of 3rd grade behavior we've come to expect.
The asshole doesn't fall far from the tree.
@doctor-phibes said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:
@89th said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:
Trump Jr is selling those on his website. Which is exactly the type of 3rd grade behavior we've come to expect.
The
assholedingleberry doesn't fall far from thetreeasshole.FIFY.
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Word on the street is Baldwin is asking when shooting will resume….
Only non-witches get due process.
- Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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If someone handed me a gun and told me it was "cold", meaning there was no "live" ammo in it, I personally would check it myself to verify that.
And if I was not capable of doing that, I would have no business handling a firearm. Period.
Just sayin'...
@improviso said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:
If someone handed me a gun and told me it was "cold", meaning there was no "live" ammo in it, I personally would check it myself to verify that.
And if I was not capable of doing that, I would have no business handling a firearm. Period.
Just sayin'...
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Dribs and drabs of information (accurate?) but one of the things that has surfaced is that some of people were allegedly doing some target shooting while they were out in the middle of nowhere. If true, that would explain why a gun with life ammo might have been present. If that is the case, these folks have not learned my family's motto of "when doing something stupid, be smart about it" - which is to say that if you're stupid enough to have a weapon with live ammo on a movie set, then remove ammo, and lock both weapon and ammo up - and if possible, put the locked box in the trunk of one's car.
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https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/rust-movie-turned-down-prop-master-massive-red-flags
Neal W. Zoromski, who has worked on shows like "Grace and Frankie," "Scandal" and "Criminal Minds," as well as films like "The Day After Tomorrow," told the Los Angeles Times that he was excited to begin work on "Rust," a western-genre film starring Alec Baldwin.
These days, the film is famous for an accidental on-set shooting that occurred when Baldwin, who was rehearsing a scene, discharged a firearm he was told contained no ammunition. The projectile struck cinematographer Halyna Hutchins, ultimately killing her, and director Joel Souza, who has since been released from the hospital.
Once Zoromski started informally working with film managers, he said he got a "bad feeling."
"There were massive red flags," he admitted.
Zoromski said he felt that "Rust" was being put together too hurriedly, allegedly with a massive focus being put on saving money over the safety of those involved. Furthermore, production managers seemed to brush off his questions and didn't seem to value experience, he further claimed.
Such "red flags" led to Zoromski telling production managers that he'd take a pass on working on "Rust."
"After I pressed 'send' on that last email, I felt, in the pit of my stomach: 'That is an accident waiting to happen,'" he recalled.
Now, in the days following the incident, Zoromski feels that had he accepted the job, perhaps things would have played out differently.
"I take my job incredibly seriously," he told the outlet. "As the prop master, you have to be concerned about safety. I'm the guy who hands the guns to the people on set."
The prop master expanded on his reasons for turning away from the production, explaining that he felt production managers were being "evasive" when he asked about the terms of his employment.
The budget for "Rust" is estimated to be at about $7 million, which Zoromski felt was too small for the type of film producers were trying to make, and he couldn't seem to get an answer on the budget for his "kit" – and industry term for his collection of props for the production.
Additionally, he was alarmed by the fact that production manager Row Walters contacted him only two weeks before "Rust" was set to begin filming, Zoromski alleged.
He received word about the potential job at 9 p.m. on Sept. 20, while filming began on Oct. 6. Hiring a prop master is often done much farther in advance.
"In the movies, the prep is everything," he said. "...You also need time to clean, inspect and repair guns. You need time to fix old clocks. In period films, you are sometimes using antiques. But here, there was absolutely no time to prepare, and that gave me a bad feeling."
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A furious Nicolas Cage stormed off the set of a film where Hannah Gutierrez-Reed was in charge of weapons — and ripped the rookie armorer for firing a gun without warning, crew members said in a new report.
The 24-year-old “Rust” armorer — in charge of guns when Alec Baldwin shot dead cinematographer Halyna Hutchins last Thursday — was repeatedly accused by crew members of breaking basic safety protocols on the Montana set of Cage’s “The Old Way” in August, they told the Wrap.
Cage even walked off set screaming at Gutierrez-Reed after she fired a gun without warning for the second time in three days, the movie’s key grip, Stu Brumbaugh, told the outlet.
“Make an announcement, you just blew my f—ing eardrums out!” Cage yelled before walking off in a rage, Brumbaugh recalled.
Brumbaugh even told the assistant director of the armorer, “She needs to be let go,” he recalled.
“After the second round, I was pissed off. We were moving too fast. She’s a rookie,” he said, saying that it was only after complaining that he found out it was the key crew member’s first movie in charge of weapons.
Brumbaugh detailed a series of complaints that were made about Gutierrez-Reed, including that she walked onto the set with live rounds or blanks without announcing it to the cast and crew.
She also walked around with pistols tucked under her armpits such that they were pointing back at people, and allowed firearms to be aimed at people, Brumbaugh told the Wrap.
Another crew member — who spoke on the condition of anonymity — confirmed the concerns.
Gutierrez-Reed “put the cast and crew in several unnecessary and dangerous situations,” the unidentified crew member told the Wrap.
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I don't like how this is turning into a witch hunt when clearly the whole set was rife with safety problems.
Please love yourself.
