Alec Baldwin what the fuck
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Baldwin is two things: not primarily at fault for this incident, in that actors have to be allowed to assume guns handed to them are not loaded with live ammunition, and one of the all-time tribal douche bags in his attempts to use his celebrity to rile up the mob against the other tribe. A third thing he is, he is of course a massive hypocrite with a personal life that backs up nothing related to personal virtue.
I suppose it's a challenge for some to keep all those different things straight in their heads. They also might not be motivated to keep them straight, if they're feeling righteous in their attacks against the aforementioned all time tribal douche celebrity.
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It comes as the film crew revealed they walked off set hours before the fatal accident over safety fears after firearms were accidentally discharged three times - including once by Baldwin's stunt double who had been told the gun was not loaded, and twice in a closed cabin.
It would be surreal if there had really been incident after incident of live ammo being accidentally shot on that set. If that's not BS, which I have to assume it is, then the whole production was insane, not least Baldwin and the people who willingly stood in the line of ambiguously live fire.
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@george-k said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:
It comes as the film crew revealed they walked off set hours before the fatal accident over safety fears after firearms were accidentally discharged three times - including once by Baldwin's stunt double who had been told the gun was not loaded, and twice in a closed cabin.
After the first incident the armorer has to be fired… Three times? And you are not double or triple checking the weapons? The armorer bears some responsibility, but so do the director and producers at that point…
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@jolly said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:
Sounds like shoestring production meets incompetent armorer.
Supposedly, the armorer, while young is the daughter of a legendary armorer - and she's done other films as an armorer. This film, she was the lead armorer, a new role. Still, regardless of whether a novice or a legend, the procedures should be set so that mistakes don't happen. When they give chemo at most hospitals, there are two people who review the drugs and dosage before the drugs are given. I would think two people should review the weapon BEFORE it is handed to an actor - EVEN if it was checked before. Your point that there was NO REASON for live ammo on a set - should nearly be a law. Alternatively, if someone wanted a gun with live ammo on a set, it should have a trigger lock on it and red tape on the handle.
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Okay, the more I think about it, the fishier things get. 1 discharge could totally be an accident. 4? That sounds like somebody is intentionally loading live rounds after the weapons have been supposedly checked…
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@lufins-dad said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:
Okay, the more I think about it, the fishier things get. 1 discharge could totally be an accident. 4? That sounds like somebody is intentionally loading live rounds after the weapons have been supposedly checked…
The story that live ammo had been accidentally discharged on set "several times", to the point that crew members were walking over it, beggars belief. If it's true, then something is insane.
Education is extremely important.
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@horace said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:
@lufins-dad said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:
Okay, the more I think about it, the fishier things get. 1 discharge could totally be an accident. 4? That sounds like somebody is intentionally loading live rounds after the weapons have been supposedly checked…
The story that live ammo had been accidentally discharged on set "several times", to the point that crew members were walking over it, beggars belief. If it's true, then something is insane.
And they kept filming? With real guns? At this point, Baldwin does become culpable as the producer for not pausing production after the second incident…
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I smell a Mysterie!
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I hate to say it, but this sounds suspiciously like 'people making shit up'.
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More details of where and how the shooting occurred:
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@george-k said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:
More details of where and how the shooting occurred:
Nowhere in the story was there any claim about live fire incidents causing a walkout. But there was mention of union workers having walked over money and housing issues, then being replaced by non-union workers. Hmm, I wonder who made up the story about lots of live fire incidents before the accidental shooting?
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The NYP article sounds a lot closer to the truth. Most likely a single shot, with a pass-through hitting the second person.
Just as a SWAG, chances are the revolver is a SAA Colt, most likely a .45LC., although it could be a 38-40 or 44-40.
There are multiple reports the gun was used for plinking and target practice, while not filming. That's a red -rocket no-no. Civil liability is a given and the only question is whether the armorer will face criminal charges.
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Nice.
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If someone handed me a gun and told me it was "cold", meaning there was no "live" ammo in it, I personally would check it myself to verify that.
And if I was not capable of doing that, I would have no business handling a firearm. Period.
Just sayin'...
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@89th said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:
Trump Jr is selling those on his website. Which is exactly the type of 3rd grade behavior we've come to expect.
The asshole doesn't fall far from the tree.
I'm no expert, but...
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@doctor-phibes said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:
@89th said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:
Trump Jr is selling those on his website. Which is exactly the type of 3rd grade behavior we've come to expect.
The
assholedingleberry doesn't fall far from thetreeasshole.FIFY.
