Make the Unvaccinated Pay!
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https://news.delta.com/ed-bastian-memo-covid-19-update
Delta airlines announced various measures that penalize the employees who refuse to get vaccinated, including charging them an extra $200/month each on their healthcare insurance premiums starting in November, and refusing to extend “COVID pay protection” (whatever that is) to the unvaccinated.
@axtremus already posted. Covid Pay Protection means they pay you while you are in quarantine if you have COVID or been in close contact.
Again, no problem, though $2400 a year seems high.
I am curious as to how the unions respond.
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@axtremus already posted. Covid Pay Protection means they pay you while you are in quarantine if you have COVID or been in close contact.
Again, no problem, though $2400 a year seems high.
I am curious as to how the unions respond.
@lufins-dad said in Make the Unvaccinated Pay!:
@axtremus already posted. Covid Pay Protection means they pay you while you are in quarantine if you have COVID or been in close contact.
Again, no problem, though $2400 a year seems high.
I am curious as to how the unions respond.
It’s a win over mandated vaccines. That door could be opened wide in a dispute.
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-health-insurance-cost-treatment/
Insurance companies to require cost sharing from the unvaccinated for their COVID-19 treatments.
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-health-insurance-cost-treatment/
Insurance companies to require cost sharing from the unvaccinated for their COVID-19 treatments.
@axtremus said in Make the Unvaccinated Pay!:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-health-insurance-cost-treatment/
Insurance companies to require cost sharing from the unvaccinated for their COVID-19 treatments.
Above and beyond what they require for overweight people receiving just about any treatment for any of the hundreds of conditions associated with that weight?
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Are smokers also paying coshares on their treatments?
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Are smokers also paying coshares on their treatments?
@lufins-dad said in Make the Unvaccinated Pay!:
Are smokers also paying coshares on their treatments?
They pay via taxes on cigarettes. Bought a pack lately?
Also study the money given to healthcare on tobacco settlements.
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@lufins-dad said in Make the Unvaccinated Pay!:
Are smokers also paying coshares on their treatments?
They pay via taxes on cigarettes. Bought a pack lately?
Also study the money given to healthcare on tobacco settlements.
@loki said in Make the Unvaccinated Pay!:
@lufins-dad said in Make the Unvaccinated Pay!:
Are smokers also paying coshares on their treatments?
They pay via taxes on cigarettes. Bought a pack lately?
Also study the money given to healthcare on tobacco settlements.
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the taxes doesn’t go to healthcare…
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Great… Sue China the same way that the tobacco companies were sued.
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@loki said in Make the Unvaccinated Pay!:
@lufins-dad said in Make the Unvaccinated Pay!:
Are smokers also paying coshares on their treatments?
They pay via taxes on cigarettes. Bought a pack lately?
Also study the money given to healthcare on tobacco settlements.
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the taxes doesn’t go to healthcare…
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Great… Sue China the same way that the tobacco companies were sued.
@lufins-dad said in Make the Unvaccinated Pay!:
@loki said in Make the Unvaccinated Pay!:
@lufins-dad said in Make the Unvaccinated Pay!:
Are smokers also paying coshares on their treatments?
They pay via taxes on cigarettes. Bought a pack lately?
Also study the money given to healthcare on tobacco settlements.
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the taxes doesn’t go to healthcare…
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Great… Sue China the same way that the tobacco companies were sued.
Here you go
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@mik said in Make the Unvaccinated Pay!:
We seem to be missing the fundamentals of insurance - shared risk.
Not at all - if you're under 25 or you have a car accident, your premium goes up.
Outside of healthcare, insurance companies frequently charge based at least partially on the level of risk exposure.
I was only joking
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@lufins-dad said in Make the Unvaccinated Pay!:
@loki said in Make the Unvaccinated Pay!:
@lufins-dad said in Make the Unvaccinated Pay!:
Are smokers also paying coshares on their treatments?
They pay via taxes on cigarettes. Bought a pack lately?
Also study the money given to healthcare on tobacco settlements.
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the taxes doesn’t go to healthcare…
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Great… Sue China the same way that the tobacco companies were sued.
Here you go
@loki said in Make the Unvaccinated Pay!:
@lufins-dad said in Make the Unvaccinated Pay!:
@loki said in Make the Unvaccinated Pay!:
@lufins-dad said in Make the Unvaccinated Pay!:
Are smokers also paying coshares on their treatments?
They pay via taxes on cigarettes. Bought a pack lately?
Also study the money given to healthcare on tobacco settlements.
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the taxes don’t go to healthcare…
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Great… Sue China the same way that the tobacco companies were sued.
Here you go
Ok, some of the Federal Taxes are applied to CHIP. They still aren't being used to address the healthcare costs directly related to smoking. And it's still irrelevant to the entire fucking conversation about insurance companies charging coshares for unvaccinated COVID illness costs...
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@mik said in Make the Unvaccinated Pay!:
We seem to be missing the fundamentals of insurance - shared risk.
Not at all - if you're under 25 or you have a car accident, your premium goes up.
Outside of healthcare, insurance companies frequently charge based at least partially on the level of risk exposure.
@doctor-phibes said in Make the Unvaccinated Pay!:
@mik said in Make the Unvaccinated Pay!:
We seem to be missing the fundamentals of insurance - shared risk.
Not at all - if you're under 25 or you have a car accident, your premium goes up.
Outside of healthcare, insurance companies frequently charge based at least partially on the level of risk exposure.
Which, as I've said, is perfectly understandable, and I encourage a higher premium (within reasonable limits compared to the actual expenses incurred) for the unvaccinated.
Now, the other question I have is how do they do this midstream? You can't just change the rules on these people on a policy that was annually renewed last February... You can implement it on the next policy renewal, but you shouldn't be able to change it like this in the middle of their plan. I would like to see a legal challenge...
The Brad
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Unvaccinated may pay more for insurance.
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@doctor-phibes said in Make the Unvaccinated Pay!:
@mik said in Make the Unvaccinated Pay!:
We seem to be missing the fundamentals of insurance - shared risk.
Not at all - if you're under 25 or you have a car accident, your premium goes up.
Outside of healthcare, insurance companies frequently charge based at least partially on the level of risk exposure.
Which, as I've said, is perfectly understandable, and I encourage a higher premium (within reasonable limits compared to the actual expenses incurred) for the unvaccinated.
Now, the other question I have is how do they do this midstream? You can't just change the rules on these people on a policy that was annually renewed last February... You can implement it on the next policy renewal, but you shouldn't be able to change it like this in the middle of their plan. I would like to see a legal challenge...
@lufins-dad said in Make the Unvaccinated Pay!:
You can't just change the rules on these people on a policy that was annually renewed
Read the fine print
I had this done on a life insurance policy I own
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Unvaccinated share in Covid cost?
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-health-insurance-cost-treatment/
@loki said in Make the Unvaccinated Pay!:
Unvaccinated share in Covid cost?
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-health-insurance-cost-treatment/
Wow. Please read your articles instead of picking out headlines that you think match your jihad to punish the unvaccinated.
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They are NOT starting to charge coshares, they are starting to stop waiving the co-shares. There is a difference…
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They are not differentiating between vaccinated and unvaccinated. All patients are going to pay…
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The line about how insurance companies are swimming in profits right now… Wow on so many levels.
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@loki said in Make the Unvaccinated Pay!:
Unvaccinated share in Covid cost?
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-health-insurance-cost-treatment/
Wow. Please read your articles instead of picking out headlines that you think match your jihad to punish the unvaccinated.
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They are NOT starting to charge coshares, they are starting to stop waiving the co-shares. There is a difference…
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They are not differentiating between vaccinated and unvaccinated. All patients are going to pay…
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The line about how insurance companies are swimming in profits right now… Wow on so many levels.
@lufins-dad said in Make the Unvaccinated Pay!:
@loki said in Make the Unvaccinated Pay!:
Unvaccinated share in Covid cost?
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-health-insurance-cost-treatment/
Wow. Please read your articles instead of picking out headlines that you think match your jihad to punish the unvaccinated.
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They are NOT starting to charge coshares, they are starting to stop waiving the co-shares. There is a difference…
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They are not differentiating between vaccinated and unvaccinated. All patients are going to pay…
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The line about how insurance companies are swimming in profits right now… Wow on so many levels.
Employers contemplating following Delta’s lead.
Let’s be honest, the gig is up for the unvaccinated. I was crucified for predicting it weeks ago and told I was full of it. Now it’s in full stride.a. And it’s not me, it’s reality…let’s be clear on that.
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What gig do you think is up? I was the first person on here to call for increasing their insurance premiums. I know quite a few antivaxxers, the insurance thing isn’t going to affect them one way or another. This isn’t going to get a needle into very many arms, and your enjoyment over this is a little disturbing and unproductive.
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@lufins-dad said in Make the Unvaccinated Pay!:
@loki said in Make the Unvaccinated Pay!:
Unvaccinated share in Covid cost?
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-health-insurance-cost-treatment/
Wow. Please read your articles instead of picking out headlines that you think match your jihad to punish the unvaccinated.
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They are NOT starting to charge coshares, they are starting to stop waiving the co-shares. There is a difference…
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They are not differentiating between vaccinated and unvaccinated. All patients are going to pay…
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The line about how insurance companies are swimming in profits right now… Wow on so many levels.
Employers contemplating following Delta’s lead.
Let’s be honest, the gig is up for the unvaccinated. I was crucified for predicting it weeks ago and told I was full of it. Now it’s in full stride.a. And it’s not me, it’s reality…let’s be clear on that.
@loki said in Make the Unvaccinated Pay!:
Let’s be honest, the gig is up for the unvaccinated. I was crucified for predicting it weeks ago and told I was full of it. Now it’s in full stride.a. And it’s not me, it’s reality…let’s be clear on that.
You are rarely clear about the reality of what anybody thinks or writes, when you're feeling dramatic. But I would be curious to see links to these posts where you felt you were being "crucified for predicting that the gig was up for the unvaccinated".
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