The Jan 6 “nothing burger”
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@jolly said in The Jan 6 “nothing burger”:
My God, what a fragile republic we have.
Haven't many on the right been predicting civil war and the fall of the republic for years?
Some might say 'predicting with ill-concealed relish'.
wrote on 1 Jul 2021, 16:02 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in The Jan 6 “nothing burger”:
@jolly said in The Jan 6 “nothing burger”:
My God, what a fragile republic we have.
Haven't many on the right been predicting civil war and the fall of the republic for years?
Some might say 'predicting with ill-concealed
relish' realism.FIFY.
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Folks, do you realize how often January 6th comes up in the conversation of normal Americans?
I haven't heard it mentioned since the week of. Maybe the Beltway is still agog, but it ain't playing out here...
wrote on 1 Jul 2021, 16:08 last edited by@jolly said in The Jan 6 “nothing burger”:
Folks, do you realize how often January 6th comes up in the conversation of normal Americans?
I'm neither American nor normal, but to be honest I'd rather forget about it, too.
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Folks, do you realize how often January 6th comes up in the conversation of normal Americans?
I haven't heard it mentioned since the week of. Maybe the Beltway is still agog, but it ain't playing out here...
wrote on 1 Jul 2021, 17:24 last edited by@jolly said in The Jan 6 “nothing burger”:
Folks, do you realize how often January 6th comes up in the conversation of normal Americans?
The normies I talk to bring it up fairly regularly. Not as a harrowing flashback or anything, but as a good go-to for joke fodder.
"Hell yeah the sale was 70% off! I ran in there faster than a Trumper storming the Capitol," that sorta thing.
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@jolly said in The Jan 6 “nothing burger”:
Folks, do you realize how often January 6th comes up in the conversation of normal Americans?
The normies I talk to bring it up fairly regularly. Not as a harrowing flashback or anything, but as a good go-to for joke fodder.
"Hell yeah the sale was 70% off! I ran in there faster than a Trumper storming the Capitol," that sorta thing.
wrote on 1 Jul 2021, 20:14 last edited by@aqua-letifer said in The Jan 6 “nothing burger”:
@jolly said in The Jan 6 “nothing burger”:
Folks, do you realize how often January 6th comes up in the conversation of normal Americans?
The normies I talk to bring it up fairly regularly. Not as a harrowing flashback or anything, but as a good go-to for joke fodder.
"Hell yeah the sale was 70% off! I ran in there faster than a Trumper storming the Capitol," that sorta thing.
Yeah, but you live in The Bubble.
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@aqua-letifer said in The Jan 6 “nothing burger”:
@jolly said in The Jan 6 “nothing burger”:
Folks, do you realize how often January 6th comes up in the conversation of normal Americans?
The normies I talk to bring it up fairly regularly. Not as a harrowing flashback or anything, but as a good go-to for joke fodder.
"Hell yeah the sale was 70% off! I ran in there faster than a Trumper storming the Capitol," that sorta thing.
Yeah, but you live in The Bubble.
wrote on 1 Jul 2021, 20:21 last edited by@jolly said in The Jan 6 “nothing burger”:
@aqua-letifer said in The Jan 6 “nothing burger”:
@jolly said in The Jan 6 “nothing burger”:
Folks, do you realize how often January 6th comes up in the conversation of normal Americans?
The normies I talk to bring it up fairly regularly. Not as a harrowing flashback or anything, but as a good go-to for joke fodder.
"Hell yeah the sale was 70% off! I ran in there faster than a Trumper storming the Capitol," that sorta thing.
Yeah, but you live in The Bubble.
We all live in a bubble, Jolly.
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@jolly said in The Jan 6 “nothing burger”:
@aqua-letifer said in The Jan 6 “nothing burger”:
@jolly said in The Jan 6 “nothing burger”:
Folks, do you realize how often January 6th comes up in the conversation of normal Americans?
The normies I talk to bring it up fairly regularly. Not as a harrowing flashback or anything, but as a good go-to for joke fodder.
"Hell yeah the sale was 70% off! I ran in there faster than a Trumper storming the Capitol," that sorta thing.
Yeah, but you live in The Bubble.
We all live in a bubble, Jolly.
wrote on 1 Jul 2021, 20:23 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in The Jan 6 “nothing burger”:
@jolly said in The Jan 6 “nothing burger”:
@aqua-letifer said in The Jan 6 “nothing burger”:
@jolly said in The Jan 6 “nothing burger”:
Folks, do you realize how often January 6th comes up in the conversation of normal Americans?
The normies I talk to bring it up fairly regularly. Not as a harrowing flashback or anything, but as a good go-to for joke fodder.
"Hell yeah the sale was 70% off! I ran in there faster than a Trumper storming the Capitol," that sorta thing.
Yeah, but you live in The Bubble.
We all live in a bubble, Jolly.
Yeah, but some of them are created by your own farts.
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wrote on 1 Jul 2021, 20:26 last edited by
I'm unconvinced that Louisiana is any more 'normal America' than Massachusetts.
This talk of 'Real America' is a bit silly. Having grown up in an often-overlooked Lancashire mill-town, it's quite funny to find myself on the other side of the great media-divide.
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I'm unconvinced that Louisiana is any more 'normal America' than Massachusetts.
This talk of 'Real America' is a bit silly. Having grown up in an often-overlooked Lancashire mill-town, it's quite funny to find myself on the other side of the great media-divide.
wrote on 1 Jul 2021, 20:49 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in The Jan 6 “nothing burger”:
I'm unconvinced that Louisiana is any more 'normal America' than Massachusetts.
Agree. Most of my neighbors are Trumpists.
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wrote on 1 Jul 2021, 23:11 last edited by
I'm still waiting for the standards and procedures for use of deadly force by the Capitol Police.
Hell, I'll even ignore the request for the cop's name. Just tell me if policy was followed.
In a med-mal lawsuit, one of the first questions asked is, "Doctor, what are your department's policies for...."
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I'm still waiting for the standards and procedures for use of deadly force by the Capitol Police.
Hell, I'll even ignore the request for the cop's name. Just tell me if policy was followed.
In a med-mal lawsuit, one of the first questions asked is, "Doctor, what are your department's policies for...."
wrote on 1 Jul 2021, 23:16 last edited by@george-k said in The Jan 6 “nothing burger”:
I'm still waiting for the standards and procedures for use of deadly force by the Capitol Police.
Is the standard different from other police forces, because we’ve seen plenty of examples now of what police apparently say is enough. In fact that debate is the root of so many problems we are facing.
But maybe to your point why no uproar now?
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I'm still waiting for the standards and procedures for use of deadly force by the Capitol Police.
Hell, I'll even ignore the request for the cop's name. Just tell me if policy was followed.
In a med-mal lawsuit, one of the first questions asked is, "Doctor, what are your department's policies for...."
wrote on 1 Jul 2021, 23:23 last edited by@george-k said in The Jan 6 “nothing burger”:
I'm still waiting for the standards and procedures for use of deadly force by the Capitol Police.
Hell, I'll even ignore the request for the cop's name. Just tell me if policy was followed.
In a med-mal lawsuit, one of the first questions asked is, "Doctor, what are your department's policies for...."
The hot rumor is that the shooter was one of Pence's Secret Service detail...
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@george-k said in The Jan 6 “nothing burger”:
I'm still waiting for the standards and procedures for use of deadly force by the Capitol Police.
Is the standard different from other police forces, because we’ve seen plenty of examples now of what police apparently say is enough. In fact that debate is the root of so many problems we are facing.
But maybe to your point why no uproar now?
wrote on 1 Jul 2021, 23:31 last edited by@loki said in The Jan 6 “nothing burger”:
But maybe to your point why no uproar now?
Easy:
- "Democracy was threatened" (ignore the fact that within hours, Congress did its job).
- The woman killed was white and unarmed.
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@loki said in The Jan 6 “nothing burger”:
Well worth the watch if you are still conflicted that something really terrible happened.
If anyone has a different account to suggest this is an exaggeration with different video I promise I will watch.
40 minutes is a long time. Anything that locking the doors of the Capitol wouldn't have fixed?
If we live in a country in which something "terrible" can happen to the very seat of government because a mob chooses to enter unlocked doors of a building, then we need better security, don't you think?
wrote on 3 Jul 2021, 11:03 last edited by@horace said in The Jan 6 “nothing burger”:
Anything that locking the doors of the Capitol wouldn't have fixed?
If we live in a country in which something "terrible" can happen to the very seat of government because a mob chooses to enter unlocked doors of a building, then we need better security, don't you think?
Could have said the same thing about 9/11 and cockpit dooors.
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wrote on 3 Jul 2021, 11:59 last edited by
Actually the Capitol doors were locked. They broke in.
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@horace said in The Jan 6 “nothing burger”:
Anything that locking the doors of the Capitol wouldn't have fixed?
If we live in a country in which something "terrible" can happen to the very seat of government because a mob chooses to enter unlocked doors of a building, then we need better security, don't you think?
Could have said the same thing about 9/11 and cockpit dooors.
wrote on 3 Jul 2021, 12:44 last edited by@jon-nyc said in The Jan 6 “nothing burger”:
@horace said in The Jan 6 “nothing burger”:
Anything that locking the doors of the Capitol wouldn't have fixed?
If we live in a country in which something "terrible" can happen to the very seat of government because a mob chooses to enter unlocked doors of a building, then we need better security, don't you think?
Could have said the same thing about 9/11 and cockpit dooors.
You'll find "all they had to do was lock the cockpit doors" in at least a couple posts of mine after Jan 6.
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wrote on 3 Jul 2021, 12:44 last edited by
@mik said in The Jan 6 “nothing burger”:
Actually the Capitol doors were locked. They broke in.
I didn't know that.
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wrote on 3 Jul 2021, 13:55 last edited by
I think that when the producers weren’t getting the surge of people they wanted, they had the security guys open the doors
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I think that when the producers weren’t getting the surge of people they wanted, they had the security guys open the doors
wrote on 3 Jul 2021, 14:20 last edited by Horace 7 Mar 2021, 14:21@copper said in The Jan 6 “nothing burger”:
I think that when the producers weren’t getting the surge of people they wanted, they had the security guys open the doors
Apparently there was some mixture of being ushered through open doors by security, and a mob storming through defenses prepared by security experts who had honed their craft against insurrectionists for 60 years. But hadn’t yet developed their art to the point where they don’t usher insurrectionists in.
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@copper said in The Jan 6 “nothing burger”:
I think that when the producers weren’t getting the surge of people they wanted, they had the security guys open the doors
Apparently there was some mixture of being ushered through open doors by security, and a mob storming through defenses prepared by security experts who had honed their craft against insurrectionists for 60 years. But hadn’t yet developed their art to the point where they don’t usher insurrectionists in.
wrote on 3 Jul 2021, 17:21 last edited by@horace said in The Jan 6 “nothing burger”:
@copper said in The Jan 6 “nothing burger”:
I think that when the producers weren’t getting the surge of people they wanted, they had the security guys open the doors
Apparently there was some mixture of being ushered through open doors by security, and a mob storming through defenses prepared by security experts who had honed their craft against insurrectionists for 60 years. But hadn’t yet developed their art to the point where they don’t usher insurrectionists in.
I know that’s sarcasm on your part but how do you feel about millions of people believing what you said?
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@horace said in The Jan 6 “nothing burger”:
@copper said in The Jan 6 “nothing burger”:
I think that when the producers weren’t getting the surge of people they wanted, they had the security guys open the doors
Apparently there was some mixture of being ushered through open doors by security, and a mob storming through defenses prepared by security experts who had honed their craft against insurrectionists for 60 years. But hadn’t yet developed their art to the point where they don’t usher insurrectionists in.
I know that’s sarcasm on your part but how do you feel about millions of people believing what you said?
wrote on 3 Jul 2021, 20:10 last edited by Horace 7 Mar 2021, 22:43@loki said in The Jan 6 “nothing burger”:
@horace said in The Jan 6 “nothing burger”:
@copper said in The Jan 6 “nothing burger”:
I think that when the producers weren’t getting the surge of people they wanted, they had the security guys open the doors
Apparently there was some mixture of being ushered through open doors by security, and a mob storming through defenses prepared by security experts who had honed their craft against insurrectionists for 60 years. But hadn’t yet developed their art to the point where they don’t usher insurrectionists in.
I know that’s sarcasm on your part but how do you feel about millions of people believing what you said?
Believing what part of what I said? The part about the mob circumventing security measures honed by 60 years of experience in mob defense, came from you. I think the notion that this mob overcame any significant resistance is ridiculous, but you continue to present your descriptions as if they are ground truth fact, the denial of which a litmus test for insanity.