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@jon-nyc same

@Horace said in Trumpenomics:

It will never not be advantageous to have solid trade relations. That principle will last longer than emotion, and America can effect a practical apology at the ballot box, if it comes to that.

People are starting to get laid off, it hasn’t quite taken off, but things could get bad if these tariffs stay on.

I don’t think people decide to give US another chance that easily if Trump remains obstinate.

At the margin this will be a risk in every business case going forward.

@Mik said in 400,000:

He didn't start that way, but when Newt's GOP crushed the Democrats in the 94 midterms he just pivoted and very masterfully stole their platform. Didn't call him Slick Willy for nothing.

Carney is doing a similar thing in Canada right now. He’s adopting some of the policy positions from Conservatives and dropping the MAGA overtones.

I go to Canada every two weeks or so. I don’t think you guys have any idea how big of an issue this stuff is over there. I’ve never seen Canadians so unanimously feel any emotion like this….. that’s a lie the international hockey tournaments are the only comparable.

For example - Canadians who have been in lock step with US on opposition to China are now considering aligning with China..

I had a similar thought. Bill Clinton would look downright conservative by today’s standards.

@LuFins-Dad said in Trumpenomics:

@jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

Nope. And that’s the bitch of it, ain’t it?

What do you like most? (I’m not saying there aren’t any pros, more trying to understand which ones outweigh burning down our trade relationships)

That’s the one issue that’s got me floored and up in arms, I suppose. Everything else I’d be happy to tune out like I did with Biden.

Have not. Got a link? Is this soeech from a military base? (I assume they couldn’t find any Greenlander to actually host them)

It’d settled for an earlier signal like this or worse vs. the inevitable inflation that’ll come.

I continue to remain floored that a President is allowed to purposely tank the economy.

@Jolly said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

One of the biggest lies in the history of the U S. was the Biden cover-up.

And none of you Trump hating muthafuckers said barely a word, except to lie and deny what everybody could see.

So pardon me if I doubt your veracity when it comes to this administration. I know you nitpicking nabobs of negativity would love to see this country fail, because winning has replaced what you think about the country and at least half the people who live in it

If I was close enough I'd spit on you.

He had moments of lucidity (not brilliance). Like the SOTU last year. Everyone expected him to fall flat on his face, but he didn’t. It finally happened at the debate.

Hard to pull the plug on someone who can be “on” (I use that term loosely) at some points.

He was already on that decline when he was voted in, so it wasn’t a surprise. I think that reflects more on Trump. The dems did get their comeuppance where it mattered too - at the ballot box.

Tariffs = massive inefficiencies through compliance and surface for corruption. We’ve already learned these lessons. It’s not theory.

I don’t know how you’d effectively deregulate and simplify the government.

DOGE seems too blunt, but something like the Grace Commission under Reagan turned out to be toothless.

I dunno…. An ineffective Congress means a government where it’s much easier to add things than take them away.

I guess that makes me slightly more sympathetic to DOGE, in the sense that it’s something.

Corolla seems like it would be a winner on the face of things. But would that mean more profits flowing out of the US to Japan?

Conspicuously missing from that list is the road to autarky.

I dunno if bones and joints are designed for that kind of sustained load.

The Greenlanders should make sure they send Hegseth extra bottles of Whiskey… up their chances of getting a drunk text from him with invasion plans.

Yeah - he has a very anti-corruption stance. But the reality is, Indians look to their government to get things. And people get into the government to wield power and make money through corruption.

Indians also have a much stronger sense of hierarchy - it’s sort of built into Hindu culture.

We decry our own broken politics, but it’s been very educational for me to be able to understand the politics of a developing country and compare them to ours.

Celebrity politicians and demagoguery is the norm in India. Bollywood actors and top tier sports athletes often go into high level politics.

My fear is we’re becoming more like them, rather than them like us.

India is a notoriously bureaucratic country that hamstrings its own people with onerous regulations, corruption and economic barriers (including tariffs).

I think the main reason this is a big issue is because of the emails. Remind me what the result of that was again?

Right, right - from each according to their ability, to each according to his needs.

On the bright side - we can spend the DOGE savings on a new tariffs compliance agency, and companies can spend part of their tax cuts on a new tariff analysis agency.