Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday
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wrote on 18 Jun 2021, 22:51 last edited by Mik
NPR was speaking to a guy in Texas who was running Juneteenth celebrations down there. His comments were 'We wanted justice, they gave us a holiday. We wanted reparations and they gave us a holiday'.
About what I figured. The plantation owners threw 'em a bone. SMH.
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NPR was speaking to a guy in Texas who was running Juneteenth celebrations down there. His comments were 'We wanted justice, they gave us a holiday. We wanted reparations and they gave us a holiday'.
About what I figured. The plantation owners threw 'em a bone. SMH.
wrote on 18 Jun 2021, 22:58 last edited by@mik said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:
His comments were 'We wanted justice, they gave us a holiday.
And what, exactly, does that "justice" look like?
We wanted reparations and they gave us a holiday'.
He mispronounced "money."
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NPR was speaking to a guy in Texas who was running Juneteenth celebrations down there. His comments were 'We wanted justice, they gave us a holiday. We wanted reparations and they gave us a holiday'.
About what I figured. The plantation owners threw 'em a bone. SMH.
wrote on 19 Jun 2021, 08:24 last edited by Catseye3@mik said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:
About what I figured. The plantation owners threw 'em a bone. SMH.
That was one guy. There were other headlines that showed celebration (for some reason). There are going to be a wide variety of reactions; why not?
What is bothersome is your guy's use of we and they. They gave us. So long as that mindset prevails, we might as well hang it up as far as so-called equality goes.
You're right, that it was a bone, though.
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wrote on 19 Jun 2021, 12:25 last edited by
I don’t mind it being a holiday, but why do we have to call it Juneteenth. Can we just call it June 19th or Emancipation Day or something? Juneteenth just spreads the warped idea that African Americans are incapable of using a number and date system. #Stop the hate.
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wrote on 19 Jun 2021, 12:48 last edited by
Ending of slavery seems to me to be one of the the most important chapters in our history and is clearly deserving of a national holiday, probably more so than the most of the events or people we currently recognize that way. One can quibble on details but I’m not too concerned about it.
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@mik said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:
About what I figured. The plantation owners threw 'em a bone. SMH.
That was one guy. There were other headlines that showed celebration (for some reason). There are going to be a wide variety of reactions; why not?
What is bothersome is your guy's use of we and they. They gave us. So long as that mindset prevails, we might as well hang it up as far as so-called equality goes.
You're right, that it was a bone, though.
wrote on 19 Jun 2021, 13:18 last edited by@catseye3 said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:
@mik said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:
About what I figured. The plantation owners threw 'em a bone. SMH.
That was one guy. There were other headlines that showed celebration (for some reason). There are going to be a wide variety of reactions; why not?
What is bothersome is your guy's use of we and they. They gave us. So long as that mindset prevails, we might as well hang it up as far as so-called equality goes.
You're right, that it was a bone, though.
Exactly.
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Ending of slavery seems to me to be one of the the most important chapters in our history and is clearly deserving of a national holiday, probably more so than the most of the events or people we currently recognize that way. One can quibble on details but I’m not too concerned about it.
wrote on 19 Jun 2021, 14:13 last edited by Catseye3@jon-nyc said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:
. . . ending of slavery seems to me to be one of the the most important chapters in our history and is clearly deserving of a national holiday
I'm kind of fuzzy in my mind about this, but there is something specious about the passage of this bill. In the present climate, it feels like it has more to do with wokeness, with gimmedat, than with a true spiritual recognition of the righting of a terrible wrong.
This is fine if you're woke, wokeness undoubtedly has a lot to do with it, but let's acknowledge it for what it is: Noblesse oblige, and not all that respectfully delivered, either.
People need to be watchful about the doing of a thing because it's the right thing to do, and the doing of it for some other, less noble reason.
I'm thinking of the farmer and his garden in Watership Down right now.
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wrote on 19 Jun 2021, 17:09 last edited by
The event has some significance
But the name is stupid
Sorry, but it is stupid
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wrote on 19 Jun 2021, 17:11 last edited by
@copper said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:
The event has some significance
But the name is stupid
Sorry, but it is stupid
Exactly.
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wrote on 19 Jun 2021, 17:12 last edited by
@copper said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:
But the name is stupid
Sorry, but it is stupidThis is for you and LuFin.
I don't agree that it's stupid. That assumes that the only acceptable language usage can be rooted in white English/English-American.
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@copper said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:
But the name is stupid
Sorry, but it is stupidThis is for you and LuFin.
I don't agree that it's stupid. That assumes that the only acceptable language usage can be rooted in white English/English-American.
wrote on 19 Jun 2021, 17:14 last edited by@catseye3 said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:
@copper said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:
But the name is stupid
Sorry, but it is stupidThis is for you and LuFin.
I don't agree that it's stupid. That assumes that the only acceptable language usage can be rooted in white English/English-American.
There is no such thing as white English, that would be stupid too
There is American English, and that is the only acceptable language usage.
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wrote on 19 Jun 2021, 17:22 last edited by
You invented the phrase 'fanny pack', and you think this is stupid?
You say 'I could care less', and you think this is dumb?
Don't get me started on 'write me' and 'Reach out'.
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You invented the phrase 'fanny pack', and you think this is stupid?
You say 'I could care less', and you think this is dumb?
Don't get me started on 'write me' and 'Reach out'.
wrote on 19 Jun 2021, 17:29 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:
You invented the phrase 'fanny pack', and you think this is stupid?
You say 'I could care less', and you think this is dumb?
Don't get me started on 'write me' and 'Reach out'.
Write me?
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@catseye3 said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:
@copper said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:
But the name is stupid
Sorry, but it is stupidThis is for you and LuFin.
I don't agree that it's stupid. That assumes that the only acceptable language usage can be rooted in white English/English-American.
There is no such thing as white English, that would be stupid too
There is American English, and that is the only acceptable language usage.
wrote on 19 Jun 2021, 17:29 last edited by Catseye3@copper said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:
There is American English, and that is the only acceptable language usage.
No, it isn't. There's black American.
When's the last time you described a good thing as 'dope'? Or referred to a friend as your homie? Or something super cool as 'all that'? Got somebody in your life who's a baby mama? A baby daddy?
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wrote on 19 Jun 2021, 18:17 last edited by
Well, I used to describe dope as a good thing. Does that count?
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wrote on 19 Jun 2021, 18:25 last edited by Catseye3
@mik said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:
Well, I used to describe dope as a good thing. Does that count?
Doan be botherin me wif yo jive shit. I be readin up on AeroGarden an I'm 'bout to spend me some bank on this dope salad kit, got its own light an' ever'thang. AND it's $60 off!
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wrote on 19 Jun 2021, 18:55 last edited by
Grow ye some herb, girl.
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wrote on 19 Jun 2021, 22:24 last edited by
Don't y'all live around ANY black folk? Juneteenth is a big deal, at least down here...
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wrote on 19 Jun 2021, 22:35 last edited by
It is in Texas. I first heard of it thirty years ago.
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@catseye3 I thought about this some more.
It's a fine idea to commemorate the end to slavery. It is a mark of respect at the very least. Maybe some ceremonies nationwide, faith based activities, what have you. But I don't think it rises to the level of a federal holiday.
wrote on 20 Jun 2021, 00:59 last edited by@catseye3 said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:
It's a fine idea to commemorate the end to slavery
FWIW it's not actually a commemoration of the end of slavery. That was abolished about two and half years before Juneteenth.