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  • CopperC Copper

    The bill is sponsored by Sen. Edward Markey, D-Mass., and had 60 co-sponsors. He tweeted Monday: “We have a long road towards racial justice in the United States and we cannot get there without acknowledging our nation’s original sin of slavery. It is long past time to make Juneteenth a federal holiday.”

    nation’s original sin

    Idiot

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    @copper said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

    The bill is sponsored by Sen. Edward Markey, D-Mass., and had 60 co-sponsors. He tweeted Monday: “We have a long road towards racial justice in the United States and we cannot get there without acknowledging our nation’s original sin of slavery. It is long past time to make Juneteenth a federal holiday.”

    nation’s original sin

    Idiot

    What percent of American ancestors are we talking about. My ancestors had nothing to do with this. Not even here until well passed.

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    • X xenon

      I think it's fine to have a day to mark the end of slavery (even if it's not the right date in a technical sense).

      More federal holidays = good, imo.

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      @xenon said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

      I think it's fine to have a day to mark the end of slavery (even if it's not the right date in a technical sense).

      More federal holidays = good, imo.

      You could have had the day Lincoln gave the Emancipation Proclamation but that didn't free any slaves north of the Mason-Dixon.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • Catseye3C Catseye3

        Agreed, except for the hit on employers, having to pay for another day off.

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        @catseye3 I thought about this some more.

        It's a fine idea to commemorate the end to slavery. It is a mark of respect at the very least. Maybe some ceremonies nationwide, faith based activities, what have you. But I don't think it rises to the level of a federal holiday.

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            @copper said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

            The bill is sponsored by Sen. Edward Markey, D-Mass., and had 60 co-sponsors. He tweeted Monday: “We have a long road towards racial justice in the United States and we cannot get there without acknowledging our nation’s original sin of slavery. It is long past time to make Juneteenth a federal holiday.”

            nation’s original sin

            Idiot

            What percent of American ancestors are we talking about. My ancestors had nothing to do with this. Not even here until well passed.

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            @loki said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

            @copper said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

            The bill is sponsored by Sen. Edward Markey, D-Mass., and had 60 co-sponsors. He tweeted Monday: “We have a long road towards racial justice in the United States and we cannot get there without acknowledging our nation’s original sin of slavery. It is long past time to make Juneteenth a federal holiday.”

            nation’s original sin

            Idiot

            What percent of American ancestors are we talking about. My ancestors had nothing to do with this. Not even here until well passed.

            If you are white, you committed the original sin.

            It will stain your soul forever.

            Devoting your life to blm might buy some indulgence.

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              NPR was speaking to a guy in Texas who was running Juneteenth celebrations down there. His comments were 'We wanted justice, they gave us a holiday. We wanted reparations and they gave us a holiday'.

              About what I figured. The plantation owners threw 'em a bone. SMH.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • MikM Mik

                NPR was speaking to a guy in Texas who was running Juneteenth celebrations down there. His comments were 'We wanted justice, they gave us a holiday. We wanted reparations and they gave us a holiday'.

                About what I figured. The plantation owners threw 'em a bone. SMH.

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                @mik said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

                His comments were 'We wanted justice, they gave us a holiday.

                And what, exactly, does that "justice" look like?

                We wanted reparations and they gave us a holiday'.

                He mispronounced "money."

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • MikM Mik

                  NPR was speaking to a guy in Texas who was running Juneteenth celebrations down there. His comments were 'We wanted justice, they gave us a holiday. We wanted reparations and they gave us a holiday'.

                  About what I figured. The plantation owners threw 'em a bone. SMH.

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                  @mik said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

                  About what I figured. The plantation owners threw 'em a bone. SMH.

                  That was one guy. There were other headlines that showed celebration (for some reason). There are going to be a wide variety of reactions; why not?

                  What is bothersome is your guy's use of we and they. They gave us. So long as that mindset prevails, we might as well hang it up as far as so-called equality goes.

                  You're right, that it was a bone, though.

                  Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                    I don’t mind it being a holiday, but why do we have to call it Juneteenth. Can we just call it June 19th or Emancipation Day or something? Juneteenth just spreads the warped idea that African Americans are incapable of using a number and date system. #Stop the hate.

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                      Ending of slavery seems to me to be one of the the most important chapters in our history and is clearly deserving of a national holiday, probably more so than the most of the events or people we currently recognize that way. One can quibble on details but I’m not too concerned about it.

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                      • Catseye3C Catseye3

                        @mik said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

                        About what I figured. The plantation owners threw 'em a bone. SMH.

                        That was one guy. There were other headlines that showed celebration (for some reason). There are going to be a wide variety of reactions; why not?

                        What is bothersome is your guy's use of we and they. They gave us. So long as that mindset prevails, we might as well hang it up as far as so-called equality goes.

                        You're right, that it was a bone, though.

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                        @catseye3 said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

                        @mik said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

                        About what I figured. The plantation owners threw 'em a bone. SMH.

                        That was one guy. There were other headlines that showed celebration (for some reason). There are going to be a wide variety of reactions; why not?

                        What is bothersome is your guy's use of we and they. They gave us. So long as that mindset prevails, we might as well hang it up as far as so-called equality goes.

                        You're right, that it was a bone, though.

                        Exactly.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          Ending of slavery seems to me to be one of the the most important chapters in our history and is clearly deserving of a national holiday, probably more so than the most of the events or people we currently recognize that way. One can quibble on details but I’m not too concerned about it.

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                          @jon-nyc said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

                          . . . ending of slavery seems to me to be one of the the most important chapters in our history and is clearly deserving of a national holiday

                          I'm kind of fuzzy in my mind about this, but there is something specious about the passage of this bill. In the present climate, it feels like it has more to do with wokeness, with gimmedat, than with a true spiritual recognition of the righting of a terrible wrong.

                          This is fine if you're woke, wokeness undoubtedly has a lot to do with it, but let's acknowledge it for what it is: Noblesse oblige, and not all that respectfully delivered, either.

                          People need to be watchful about the doing of a thing because it's the right thing to do, and the doing of it for some other, less noble reason.

                          I'm thinking of the farmer and his garden in Watership Down right now.

                          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                            The event has some significance

                            But the name is stupid

                            Sorry, but it is stupid

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                            • CopperC Copper

                              The event has some significance

                              But the name is stupid

                              Sorry, but it is stupid

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                              @copper said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

                              The event has some significance

                              But the name is stupid

                              Sorry, but it is stupid

                              Exactly.

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                              • CopperC Copper

                                The event has some significance

                                But the name is stupid

                                Sorry, but it is stupid

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                                @copper said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

                                But the name is stupid
                                Sorry, but it is stupid

                                This is for you and LuFin.

                                I don't agree that it's stupid. That assumes that the only acceptable language usage can be rooted in white English/English-American.

                                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                • Catseye3C Catseye3

                                  @copper said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

                                  But the name is stupid
                                  Sorry, but it is stupid

                                  This is for you and LuFin.

                                  I don't agree that it's stupid. That assumes that the only acceptable language usage can be rooted in white English/English-American.

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                                  @catseye3 said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

                                  @copper said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

                                  But the name is stupid
                                  Sorry, but it is stupid

                                  This is for you and LuFin.

                                  I don't agree that it's stupid. That assumes that the only acceptable language usage can be rooted in white English/English-American.

                                  There is no such thing as white English, that would be stupid too

                                  There is American English, and that is the only acceptable language usage.

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                                    You invented the phrase 'fanny pack', and you think this is stupid?

                                    You say 'I could care less', and you think this is dumb?

                                    Don't get me started on 'write me' and 'Reach out'.

                                    I was only joking

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                                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                      You invented the phrase 'fanny pack', and you think this is stupid?

                                      You say 'I could care less', and you think this is dumb?

                                      Don't get me started on 'write me' and 'Reach out'.

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                                      @doctor-phibes said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

                                      You invented the phrase 'fanny pack', and you think this is stupid?

                                      You say 'I could care less', and you think this is dumb?

                                      Don't get me started on 'write me' and 'Reach out'.

                                      Write me?

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                                      • CopperC Copper

                                        @catseye3 said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

                                        @copper said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

                                        But the name is stupid
                                        Sorry, but it is stupid

                                        This is for you and LuFin.

                                        I don't agree that it's stupid. That assumes that the only acceptable language usage can be rooted in white English/English-American.

                                        There is no such thing as white English, that would be stupid too

                                        There is American English, and that is the only acceptable language usage.

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                                        @copper said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

                                        There is American English, and that is the only acceptable language usage.

                                        No, it isn't. There's black American.

                                        When's the last time you described a good thing as 'dope'? Or referred to a friend as your homie? Or something super cool as 'all that'? Got somebody in your life who's a baby mama? A baby daddy?

                                        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                          Well, I used to describe dope as a good thing. Does that count?

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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