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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
    wrote on last edited by
    #29

    It's crappy, but it's the law.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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      Doctor Phibes
      wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
      #30

      I'm not arguing the legality, but clearly, they made a real mess of this.

      I was only joking

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      • LuFins DadL Offline
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        LuFins Dad
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        #31

        The general consensus online seems to be that Cosby forfeited his rights as soon as he was accused, and now that he got off on a technicality, it’s likely that we will soon have 100,000,000 rapes a day and no one will say anything about it.

        The Brad

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        • CopperC Offline
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          Copper
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          #32

          So they held him in prison for 2 years with a bogus conviction, is that it?

          Will they have to pay reparations for his time?

          What does he make, about a million $ per day?

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          • CopperC Offline
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            Copper
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            #33

            A clear message

            An alarming new era

            It is open season

            https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/30/opinions/cosby-release-alarming-message-alaimo/index.html

            Bill Cosby's release sends clear message for an alarming new era

            (CNN)Bill Cosby, who has been accused of misconduct by 60 women, was released from prison Wednesday after Pennsylvania's Supreme Court overturned his sexual assault conviction. That he is a free man today sends a profoundly disturbing message to women who survive sexual assault: that if they come forward they will confront all but insurmountable hurdles as they pursue justice.

            In 2018, Cosby was convicted by a jury of drugging and sexually assaulting a woman in 2004, but the court ruled that a deal he struck with a prosecutor to avoid prosecution in exchange for a deposition in a civil case had been improperly used against him, and that he should not have been charged in the criminal case.

            Recall that Cosby has been accused of misconduct by 60 different women. "I have always maintained my innocence," he tweeted on Wednesday.

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            • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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              Doctor Phibes
              wrote on last edited by
              #34

              It's a little hard to imagine that all 60 different women were lying.

              Maybe an era of prosecutors not royally screwing things up would be a good thing.

              I was only joking

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              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                It's a little hard to imagine that all 60 different women were lying.

                Maybe an era of prosecutors not royally screwing things up would be a good thing.

                L Offline
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                Loki
                wrote on last edited by
                #35

                @doctor-phibes said in Parole Denied:

                It's a little hard to imagine that all 60 different women were lying.

                Maybe an era of prosecutors not royally screwing things up would be a good thing.

                The law is the law. Can’t cancel it, although people are sure trying.

                So he likely did it but thank god we are a nation of laws. Change the law if you don’t like it. We have a democratic process for that.

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                • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                  Doctor Phibes
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #36

                  As I said earlier, I'm not arguing the legality.

                  Doing deals with alleged rapists probably isn't a great idea.

                  I was only joking

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                    As I said earlier, I'm not arguing the legality.

                    Doing deals with alleged rapists probably isn't a great idea.

                    L Offline
                    L Offline
                    Loki
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #37

                    @doctor-phibes said in Parole Denied:

                    As I said earlier, I'm not arguing the legality.

                    Doing deals with alleged rapists probably isn't a great idea.

                    A black man who was America’s favorite father. God hindsight is so awesome, I love people who are great at that, they are soooo smart.

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                    • L Loki

                      @doctor-phibes said in Parole Denied:

                      As I said earlier, I'm not arguing the legality.

                      Doing deals with alleged rapists probably isn't a great idea.

                      A black man who was America’s favorite father. God hindsight is so awesome, I love people who are great at that, they are soooo smart.

                      CopperC Offline
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                      Copper
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #38

                      @loki said in Parole Denied:

                      A black man who was America’s favorite father

                      He's not?

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                      • L Loki

                        @doctor-phibes said in Parole Denied:

                        As I said earlier, I'm not arguing the legality.

                        Doing deals with alleged rapists probably isn't a great idea.

                        A black man who was America’s favorite father. God hindsight is so awesome, I love people who are great at that, they are soooo smart.

                        Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
                        #39

                        @loki said in Parole Denied:

                        @doctor-phibes said in Parole Denied:

                        God hindsight is so awesome, I love people who are great at that, they are soooo smart.

                        You mean me? I was talking about the prosecutors messing this up. 40 women came forward and said he'd assaulted them. You don't need much in the way of hindsight or even foresight to figure out something's amiss.

                        And of course we all loved Bill Cosby. But if 40 women said that John the Baptist had taken liberties, maybe suspicions would be aroused.

                        I was only joking

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                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                          @loki said in Parole Denied:

                          @doctor-phibes said in Parole Denied:

                          God hindsight is so awesome, I love people who are great at that, they are soooo smart.

                          You mean me? I was talking about the prosecutors messing this up. 40 women came forward and said he'd assaulted them. You don't need much in the way of hindsight or even foresight to figure out something's amiss.

                          And of course we all loved Bill Cosby. But if 40 women said that John the Baptist had taken liberties, maybe suspicions would be aroused.

                          HoraceH Offline
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                          Horace
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #40

                          @doctor-phibes said in Parole Denied:

                          And of course we all loved Bill Cosby.

                          Racists didn't love him, because of the color of his skin. He dealt with racism his whole life.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                            @loki said in Parole Denied:

                            @doctor-phibes said in Parole Denied:

                            God hindsight is so awesome, I love people who are great at that, they are soooo smart.

                            You mean me? I was talking about the prosecutors messing this up. 40 women came forward and said he'd assaulted them. You don't need much in the way of hindsight or even foresight to figure out something's amiss.

                            And of course we all loved Bill Cosby. But if 40 women said that John the Baptist had taken liberties, maybe suspicions would be aroused.

                            LuFins DadL Offline
                            LuFins DadL Offline
                            LuFins Dad
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #41

                            @doctor-phibes said in Parole Denied:

                            @loki said in Parole Denied:

                            @doctor-phibes said in Parole Denied:

                            God hindsight is so awesome, I love people who are great at that, they are soooo smart.

                            You mean me? I was talking about the prosecutors messing this up. 40 women came forward and said he'd assaulted them. You don't need much in the way of hindsight or even foresight to figure out something's amiss.

                            And of course we all loved Bill Cosby. But if 40 women said that John the Baptist had taken liberties, maybe suspicions would be aroused.

                            Which prosecutors? First round that agreed to the deal or the second round that ignored the deal?

                            The Brad

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                            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                              @doctor-phibes said in Parole Denied:

                              @loki said in Parole Denied:

                              @doctor-phibes said in Parole Denied:

                              God hindsight is so awesome, I love people who are great at that, they are soooo smart.

                              You mean me? I was talking about the prosecutors messing this up. 40 women came forward and said he'd assaulted them. You don't need much in the way of hindsight or even foresight to figure out something's amiss.

                              And of course we all loved Bill Cosby. But if 40 women said that John the Baptist had taken liberties, maybe suspicions would be aroused.

                              Which prosecutors? First round that agreed to the deal or the second round that ignored the deal?

                              HoraceH Offline
                              HoraceH Offline
                              Horace
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #42

                              @lufins-dad said in Parole Denied:

                              @doctor-phibes said in Parole Denied:

                              @loki said in Parole Denied:

                              @doctor-phibes said in Parole Denied:

                              God hindsight is so awesome, I love people who are great at that, they are soooo smart.

                              You mean me? I was talking about the prosecutors messing this up. 40 women came forward and said he'd assaulted them. You don't need much in the way of hindsight or even foresight to figure out something's amiss.

                              And of course we all loved Bill Cosby. But if 40 women said that John the Baptist had taken liberties, maybe suspicions would be aroused.

                              Which prosecutors? First round that agreed to the deal or the second round that ignored the deal?

                              The second round were righteous and on the right side of history. Their work was undone by bean counters in higher courts who did not agree that rape is wrong, full stop.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                @doctor-phibes said in Parole Denied:

                                @loki said in Parole Denied:

                                @doctor-phibes said in Parole Denied:

                                God hindsight is so awesome, I love people who are great at that, they are soooo smart.

                                You mean me? I was talking about the prosecutors messing this up. 40 women came forward and said he'd assaulted them. You don't need much in the way of hindsight or even foresight to figure out something's amiss.

                                And of course we all loved Bill Cosby. But if 40 women said that John the Baptist had taken liberties, maybe suspicions would be aroused.

                                Which prosecutors? First round that agreed to the deal or the second round that ignored the deal?

                                Doctor PhibesD Offline
                                Doctor PhibesD Offline
                                Doctor Phibes
                                wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
                                #43

                                @lufins-dad said in Parole Denied:

                                @doctor-phibes said in Parole Denied:

                                @loki said in Parole Denied:

                                @doctor-phibes said in Parole Denied:

                                God hindsight is so awesome, I love people who are great at that, they are soooo smart.

                                You mean me? I was talking about the prosecutors messing this up. 40 women came forward and said he'd assaulted them. You don't need much in the way of hindsight or even foresight to figure out something's amiss.

                                And of course we all loved Bill Cosby. But if 40 women said that John the Baptist had taken liberties, maybe suspicions would be aroused.

                                Which prosecutors? First round that agreed to the deal or the second round that ignored the deal?

                                The second round was clearly wrong, as it backtracked on what was agreed, but I don't think prosecutors should be making deals with alleged rapists. If that makes me sound somehow holier-than-thou, well there we go.

                                I was only joking

                                LuFins DadL 1 Reply Last reply
                                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                  @lufins-dad said in Parole Denied:

                                  @doctor-phibes said in Parole Denied:

                                  @loki said in Parole Denied:

                                  @doctor-phibes said in Parole Denied:

                                  God hindsight is so awesome, I love people who are great at that, they are soooo smart.

                                  You mean me? I was talking about the prosecutors messing this up. 40 women came forward and said he'd assaulted them. You don't need much in the way of hindsight or even foresight to figure out something's amiss.

                                  And of course we all loved Bill Cosby. But if 40 women said that John the Baptist had taken liberties, maybe suspicions would be aroused.

                                  Which prosecutors? First round that agreed to the deal or the second round that ignored the deal?

                                  The second round was clearly wrong, as it backtracked on what was agreed, but I don't think prosecutors should be making deals with alleged rapists. If that makes me sound somehow holier-than-thou, well there we go.

                                  LuFins DadL Offline
                                  LuFins DadL Offline
                                  LuFins Dad
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #44

                                  @doctor-phibes said in Parole Denied:

                                  @lufins-dad said in Parole Denied:

                                  @doctor-phibes said in Parole Denied:

                                  @loki said in Parole Denied:

                                  @doctor-phibes said in Parole Denied:

                                  God hindsight is so awesome, I love people who are great at that, they are soooo smart.

                                  You mean me? I was talking about the prosecutors messing this up. 40 women came forward and said he'd assaulted them. You don't need much in the way of hindsight or even foresight to figure out something's amiss.

                                  And of course we all loved Bill Cosby. But if 40 women said that John the Baptist had taken liberties, maybe suspicions would be aroused.

                                  Which prosecutors? First round that agreed to the deal or the second round that ignored the deal?

                                  The second round was clearly wrong, as it backtracked on what was agreed, but I don't think prosecutors should be making deals with alleged rapists. If that makes me sound somehow holier-than-thou, well there we go.

                                  The first round made the agreement because they didn't have enough to convict him and they knew it. They set it up that way to help the civil case. If Cosby takes the 5th in the civil case, he probably walks away from that, too, or the case never even goes to court.

                                  In fact, if that doesn't happen, then that comedian doesn't make the joke 6 years ago, and we likely don't have the #metoo movement take off the way it did.

                                  The Brad

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                                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                    @doctor-phibes said in Parole Denied:

                                    @lufins-dad said in Parole Denied:

                                    @doctor-phibes said in Parole Denied:

                                    @loki said in Parole Denied:

                                    @doctor-phibes said in Parole Denied:

                                    God hindsight is so awesome, I love people who are great at that, they are soooo smart.

                                    You mean me? I was talking about the prosecutors messing this up. 40 women came forward and said he'd assaulted them. You don't need much in the way of hindsight or even foresight to figure out something's amiss.

                                    And of course we all loved Bill Cosby. But if 40 women said that John the Baptist had taken liberties, maybe suspicions would be aroused.

                                    Which prosecutors? First round that agreed to the deal or the second round that ignored the deal?

                                    The second round was clearly wrong, as it backtracked on what was agreed, but I don't think prosecutors should be making deals with alleged rapists. If that makes me sound somehow holier-than-thou, well there we go.

                                    The first round made the agreement because they didn't have enough to convict him and they knew it. They set it up that way to help the civil case. If Cosby takes the 5th in the civil case, he probably walks away from that, too, or the case never even goes to court.

                                    In fact, if that doesn't happen, then that comedian doesn't make the joke 6 years ago, and we likely don't have the #metoo movement take off the way it did.

                                    JollyJ Offline
                                    JollyJ Offline
                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #45

                                    @lufins-dad said in Parole Denied:

                                    @doctor-phibes said in Parole Denied:

                                    @lufins-dad said in Parole Denied:

                                    @doctor-phibes said in Parole Denied:

                                    @loki said in Parole Denied:

                                    @doctor-phibes said in Parole Denied:

                                    God hindsight is so awesome, I love people who are great at that, they are soooo smart.

                                    You mean me? I was talking about the prosecutors messing this up. 40 women came forward and said he'd assaulted them. You don't need much in the way of hindsight or even foresight to figure out something's amiss.

                                    And of course we all loved Bill Cosby. But if 40 women said that John the Baptist had taken liberties, maybe suspicions would be aroused.

                                    Which prosecutors? First round that agreed to the deal or the second round that ignored the deal?

                                    The second round was clearly wrong, as it backtracked on what was agreed, but I don't think prosecutors should be making deals with alleged rapists. If that makes me sound somehow holier-than-thou, well there we go.

                                    The first round made the agreement because they didn't have enough to convict him and they knew it. They set it up that way to help the civil case. If Cosby takes the 5th in the civil case, he probably walks away from that, too, or the case never even goes to court.

                                    In fact, if that doesn't happen, then that comedian doesn't make the joke 6 years ago, and we likely don't have the #metoo movement take off the way it did.

                                    I think the first prosecutor wanted something, so he took what he knew he could get...Which is to hurt Cosby in the pocketbook for millions.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • George KG Offline
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                                      George K
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #46

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        jon-nyc
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                                        #47

                                        Lol

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                          George K
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                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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