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    Copper
    wrote on 1 Jul 2021, 16:48 last edited by
    #33

    A clear message

    An alarming new era

    It is open season

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/30/opinions/cosby-release-alarming-message-alaimo/index.html

    Bill Cosby's release sends clear message for an alarming new era

    (CNN)Bill Cosby, who has been accused of misconduct by 60 women, was released from prison Wednesday after Pennsylvania's Supreme Court overturned his sexual assault conviction. That he is a free man today sends a profoundly disturbing message to women who survive sexual assault: that if they come forward they will confront all but insurmountable hurdles as they pursue justice.

    In 2018, Cosby was convicted by a jury of drugging and sexually assaulting a woman in 2004, but the court ruled that a deal he struck with a prosecutor to avoid prosecution in exchange for a deposition in a civil case had been improperly used against him, and that he should not have been charged in the criminal case.

    Recall that Cosby has been accused of misconduct by 60 different women. "I have always maintained my innocence," he tweeted on Wednesday.

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      Doctor Phibes
      wrote on 1 Jul 2021, 16:56 last edited by
      #34

      It's a little hard to imagine that all 60 different women were lying.

      Maybe an era of prosecutors not royally screwing things up would be a good thing.

      I was only joking

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      • D Doctor Phibes
        1 Jul 2021, 16:56

        It's a little hard to imagine that all 60 different women were lying.

        Maybe an era of prosecutors not royally screwing things up would be a good thing.

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        Loki
        wrote on 1 Jul 2021, 17:05 last edited by
        #35

        @doctor-phibes said in Parole Denied:

        It's a little hard to imagine that all 60 different women were lying.

        Maybe an era of prosecutors not royally screwing things up would be a good thing.

        The law is the law. Can’t cancel it, although people are sure trying.

        So he likely did it but thank god we are a nation of laws. Change the law if you don’t like it. We have a democratic process for that.

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          Doctor Phibes
          wrote on 1 Jul 2021, 17:13 last edited by
          #36

          As I said earlier, I'm not arguing the legality.

          Doing deals with alleged rapists probably isn't a great idea.

          I was only joking

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          • D Doctor Phibes
            1 Jul 2021, 17:13

            As I said earlier, I'm not arguing the legality.

            Doing deals with alleged rapists probably isn't a great idea.

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            Loki
            wrote on 1 Jul 2021, 17:30 last edited by
            #37

            @doctor-phibes said in Parole Denied:

            As I said earlier, I'm not arguing the legality.

            Doing deals with alleged rapists probably isn't a great idea.

            A black man who was America’s favorite father. God hindsight is so awesome, I love people who are great at that, they are soooo smart.

            C D 2 Replies Last reply 1 Jul 2021, 17:31
            • L Loki
              1 Jul 2021, 17:30

              @doctor-phibes said in Parole Denied:

              As I said earlier, I'm not arguing the legality.

              Doing deals with alleged rapists probably isn't a great idea.

              A black man who was America’s favorite father. God hindsight is so awesome, I love people who are great at that, they are soooo smart.

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              Copper
              wrote on 1 Jul 2021, 17:31 last edited by
              #38

              @loki said in Parole Denied:

              A black man who was America’s favorite father

              He's not?

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              • L Loki
                1 Jul 2021, 17:30

                @doctor-phibes said in Parole Denied:

                As I said earlier, I'm not arguing the legality.

                Doing deals with alleged rapists probably isn't a great idea.

                A black man who was America’s favorite father. God hindsight is so awesome, I love people who are great at that, they are soooo smart.

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                Doctor Phibes
                wrote on 1 Jul 2021, 19:28 last edited by Doctor Phibes 7 Jan 2021, 19:29
                #39

                @loki said in Parole Denied:

                @doctor-phibes said in Parole Denied:

                God hindsight is so awesome, I love people who are great at that, they are soooo smart.

                You mean me? I was talking about the prosecutors messing this up. 40 women came forward and said he'd assaulted them. You don't need much in the way of hindsight or even foresight to figure out something's amiss.

                And of course we all loved Bill Cosby. But if 40 women said that John the Baptist had taken liberties, maybe suspicions would be aroused.

                I was only joking

                HoraceH LuFins DadL 2 Replies Last reply 1 Jul 2021, 19:31
                • D Doctor Phibes
                  1 Jul 2021, 19:28

                  @loki said in Parole Denied:

                  @doctor-phibes said in Parole Denied:

                  God hindsight is so awesome, I love people who are great at that, they are soooo smart.

                  You mean me? I was talking about the prosecutors messing this up. 40 women came forward and said he'd assaulted them. You don't need much in the way of hindsight or even foresight to figure out something's amiss.

                  And of course we all loved Bill Cosby. But if 40 women said that John the Baptist had taken liberties, maybe suspicions would be aroused.

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                  Horace
                  wrote on 1 Jul 2021, 19:31 last edited by
                  #40

                  @doctor-phibes said in Parole Denied:

                  And of course we all loved Bill Cosby.

                  Racists didn't love him, because of the color of his skin. He dealt with racism his whole life.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • D Doctor Phibes
                    1 Jul 2021, 19:28

                    @loki said in Parole Denied:

                    @doctor-phibes said in Parole Denied:

                    God hindsight is so awesome, I love people who are great at that, they are soooo smart.

                    You mean me? I was talking about the prosecutors messing this up. 40 women came forward and said he'd assaulted them. You don't need much in the way of hindsight or even foresight to figure out something's amiss.

                    And of course we all loved Bill Cosby. But if 40 women said that John the Baptist had taken liberties, maybe suspicions would be aroused.

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                    LuFins Dad
                    wrote on 1 Jul 2021, 19:51 last edited by
                    #41

                    @doctor-phibes said in Parole Denied:

                    @loki said in Parole Denied:

                    @doctor-phibes said in Parole Denied:

                    God hindsight is so awesome, I love people who are great at that, they are soooo smart.

                    You mean me? I was talking about the prosecutors messing this up. 40 women came forward and said he'd assaulted them. You don't need much in the way of hindsight or even foresight to figure out something's amiss.

                    And of course we all loved Bill Cosby. But if 40 women said that John the Baptist had taken liberties, maybe suspicions would be aroused.

                    Which prosecutors? First round that agreed to the deal or the second round that ignored the deal?

                    The Brad

                    HoraceH D 2 Replies Last reply 1 Jul 2021, 19:54
                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad
                      1 Jul 2021, 19:51

                      @doctor-phibes said in Parole Denied:

                      @loki said in Parole Denied:

                      @doctor-phibes said in Parole Denied:

                      God hindsight is so awesome, I love people who are great at that, they are soooo smart.

                      You mean me? I was talking about the prosecutors messing this up. 40 women came forward and said he'd assaulted them. You don't need much in the way of hindsight or even foresight to figure out something's amiss.

                      And of course we all loved Bill Cosby. But if 40 women said that John the Baptist had taken liberties, maybe suspicions would be aroused.

                      Which prosecutors? First round that agreed to the deal or the second round that ignored the deal?

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                      Horace
                      wrote on 1 Jul 2021, 19:54 last edited by
                      #42

                      @lufins-dad said in Parole Denied:

                      @doctor-phibes said in Parole Denied:

                      @loki said in Parole Denied:

                      @doctor-phibes said in Parole Denied:

                      God hindsight is so awesome, I love people who are great at that, they are soooo smart.

                      You mean me? I was talking about the prosecutors messing this up. 40 women came forward and said he'd assaulted them. You don't need much in the way of hindsight or even foresight to figure out something's amiss.

                      And of course we all loved Bill Cosby. But if 40 women said that John the Baptist had taken liberties, maybe suspicions would be aroused.

                      Which prosecutors? First round that agreed to the deal or the second round that ignored the deal?

                      The second round were righteous and on the right side of history. Their work was undone by bean counters in higher courts who did not agree that rape is wrong, full stop.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad
                        1 Jul 2021, 19:51

                        @doctor-phibes said in Parole Denied:

                        @loki said in Parole Denied:

                        @doctor-phibes said in Parole Denied:

                        God hindsight is so awesome, I love people who are great at that, they are soooo smart.

                        You mean me? I was talking about the prosecutors messing this up. 40 women came forward and said he'd assaulted them. You don't need much in the way of hindsight or even foresight to figure out something's amiss.

                        And of course we all loved Bill Cosby. But if 40 women said that John the Baptist had taken liberties, maybe suspicions would be aroused.

                        Which prosecutors? First round that agreed to the deal or the second round that ignored the deal?

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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on 1 Jul 2021, 20:18 last edited by Doctor Phibes 7 Jan 2021, 20:19
                        #43

                        @lufins-dad said in Parole Denied:

                        @doctor-phibes said in Parole Denied:

                        @loki said in Parole Denied:

                        @doctor-phibes said in Parole Denied:

                        God hindsight is so awesome, I love people who are great at that, they are soooo smart.

                        You mean me? I was talking about the prosecutors messing this up. 40 women came forward and said he'd assaulted them. You don't need much in the way of hindsight or even foresight to figure out something's amiss.

                        And of course we all loved Bill Cosby. But if 40 women said that John the Baptist had taken liberties, maybe suspicions would be aroused.

                        Which prosecutors? First round that agreed to the deal or the second round that ignored the deal?

                        The second round was clearly wrong, as it backtracked on what was agreed, but I don't think prosecutors should be making deals with alleged rapists. If that makes me sound somehow holier-than-thou, well there we go.

                        I was only joking

                        LuFins DadL 1 Reply Last reply 1 Jul 2021, 20:56
                        • D Doctor Phibes
                          1 Jul 2021, 20:18

                          @lufins-dad said in Parole Denied:

                          @doctor-phibes said in Parole Denied:

                          @loki said in Parole Denied:

                          @doctor-phibes said in Parole Denied:

                          God hindsight is so awesome, I love people who are great at that, they are soooo smart.

                          You mean me? I was talking about the prosecutors messing this up. 40 women came forward and said he'd assaulted them. You don't need much in the way of hindsight or even foresight to figure out something's amiss.

                          And of course we all loved Bill Cosby. But if 40 women said that John the Baptist had taken liberties, maybe suspicions would be aroused.

                          Which prosecutors? First round that agreed to the deal or the second round that ignored the deal?

                          The second round was clearly wrong, as it backtracked on what was agreed, but I don't think prosecutors should be making deals with alleged rapists. If that makes me sound somehow holier-than-thou, well there we go.

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                          LuFins Dad
                          wrote on 1 Jul 2021, 20:56 last edited by
                          #44

                          @doctor-phibes said in Parole Denied:

                          @lufins-dad said in Parole Denied:

                          @doctor-phibes said in Parole Denied:

                          @loki said in Parole Denied:

                          @doctor-phibes said in Parole Denied:

                          God hindsight is so awesome, I love people who are great at that, they are soooo smart.

                          You mean me? I was talking about the prosecutors messing this up. 40 women came forward and said he'd assaulted them. You don't need much in the way of hindsight or even foresight to figure out something's amiss.

                          And of course we all loved Bill Cosby. But if 40 women said that John the Baptist had taken liberties, maybe suspicions would be aroused.

                          Which prosecutors? First round that agreed to the deal or the second round that ignored the deal?

                          The second round was clearly wrong, as it backtracked on what was agreed, but I don't think prosecutors should be making deals with alleged rapists. If that makes me sound somehow holier-than-thou, well there we go.

                          The first round made the agreement because they didn't have enough to convict him and they knew it. They set it up that way to help the civil case. If Cosby takes the 5th in the civil case, he probably walks away from that, too, or the case never even goes to court.

                          In fact, if that doesn't happen, then that comedian doesn't make the joke 6 years ago, and we likely don't have the #metoo movement take off the way it did.

                          The Brad

                          JollyJ 1 Reply Last reply 1 Jul 2021, 22:00
                          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad
                            1 Jul 2021, 20:56

                            @doctor-phibes said in Parole Denied:

                            @lufins-dad said in Parole Denied:

                            @doctor-phibes said in Parole Denied:

                            @loki said in Parole Denied:

                            @doctor-phibes said in Parole Denied:

                            God hindsight is so awesome, I love people who are great at that, they are soooo smart.

                            You mean me? I was talking about the prosecutors messing this up. 40 women came forward and said he'd assaulted them. You don't need much in the way of hindsight or even foresight to figure out something's amiss.

                            And of course we all loved Bill Cosby. But if 40 women said that John the Baptist had taken liberties, maybe suspicions would be aroused.

                            Which prosecutors? First round that agreed to the deal or the second round that ignored the deal?

                            The second round was clearly wrong, as it backtracked on what was agreed, but I don't think prosecutors should be making deals with alleged rapists. If that makes me sound somehow holier-than-thou, well there we go.

                            The first round made the agreement because they didn't have enough to convict him and they knew it. They set it up that way to help the civil case. If Cosby takes the 5th in the civil case, he probably walks away from that, too, or the case never even goes to court.

                            In fact, if that doesn't happen, then that comedian doesn't make the joke 6 years ago, and we likely don't have the #metoo movement take off the way it did.

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on 1 Jul 2021, 22:00 last edited by
                            #45

                            @lufins-dad said in Parole Denied:

                            @doctor-phibes said in Parole Denied:

                            @lufins-dad said in Parole Denied:

                            @doctor-phibes said in Parole Denied:

                            @loki said in Parole Denied:

                            @doctor-phibes said in Parole Denied:

                            God hindsight is so awesome, I love people who are great at that, they are soooo smart.

                            You mean me? I was talking about the prosecutors messing this up. 40 women came forward and said he'd assaulted them. You don't need much in the way of hindsight or even foresight to figure out something's amiss.

                            And of course we all loved Bill Cosby. But if 40 women said that John the Baptist had taken liberties, maybe suspicions would be aroused.

                            Which prosecutors? First round that agreed to the deal or the second round that ignored the deal?

                            The second round was clearly wrong, as it backtracked on what was agreed, but I don't think prosecutors should be making deals with alleged rapists. If that makes me sound somehow holier-than-thou, well there we go.

                            The first round made the agreement because they didn't have enough to convict him and they knew it. They set it up that way to help the civil case. If Cosby takes the 5th in the civil case, he probably walks away from that, too, or the case never even goes to court.

                            In fact, if that doesn't happen, then that comedian doesn't make the joke 6 years ago, and we likely don't have the #metoo movement take off the way it did.

                            I think the first prosecutor wanted something, so he took what he knew he could get...Which is to hurt Cosby in the pocketbook for millions.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              George K
                              wrote on 2 Jul 2021, 22:04 last edited by
                              #46

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 3 Jul 2021, 01:18 last edited by
                                #47

                                Lol

                                Only non-witches get due process.

                                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 3 Jul 2021, 11:19 last edited by
                                  #48

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                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    3 Jul 2021, 11:19

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 3 Jul 2021, 11:24 last edited by
                                    #49

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                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      taiwan_girl
                                      wrote on 6 Dec 2024, 15:17 last edited by
                                      #50

                                      https://nypost.com/2024/12/05/real-estate/bill-cosby-facing-foreclosure-on-nyc-townhouse/

                                      Bill Cosby, the once-beloved TV icon whose image crumbled during a highly publicized sexual assault scandal in recent years, is now facing foreclosure on his Manhattan townhouse.

                                      Court documents show the 87-year-old allegedly owes millions on the Lenox Hill property, which he and his wife, Camille, purchased back in 1980.

                                      CitiMortgage filed a lawsuit in Manhattan Supreme Court this week, claiming the former sitcom star defaulted on a $4.2 million loan tied to the four-story residence at 243 E. 61st St., according to Crain’s.

                                      The financial giant alleges the Cosbys still owe $3.7 million in principal, with the rest racking up in interest and fees.

                                      The brownstone, located between Second and Third avenues, spans 5,000 square feet.

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