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Paul says "No".

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    Jolly
    wrote on 23 May 2021, 12:04 last edited by
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    Gonna tell him he can't get on an airplane?

    https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/554918-rand-paul-im-not-getting-vaccinated

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      Copper
      wrote on 23 May 2021, 13:15 last edited by
      #2

      Science

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      • J Jolly
        23 May 2021, 12:04

        Gonna tell him he can't get on an airplane?

        https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/554918-rand-paul-im-not-getting-vaccinated

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        Rich
        wrote on 23 May 2021, 13:27 last edited by
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        Trumps signature achievement during Covid was “Operation Warp Speed”.

        Moving mountains some might say to get regulatory approval for a vaccine.

        Now Trump supporters don’t want the vaccine because why??

        This is fukkin weird.

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        • R Rich
          23 May 2021, 13:27

          Trumps signature achievement during Covid was “Operation Warp Speed”.

          Moving mountains some might say to get regulatory approval for a vaccine.

          Now Trump supporters don’t want the vaccine because why??

          This is fukkin weird.

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          Jolly
          wrote on 23 May 2021, 13:32 last edited by
          #4

          @rich said in Paul says "No".:

          Trumps signature achievement during Covid was “Operation Warp Speed”.

          Moving mountains some might say to get regulatory approval for a vaccine.

          Now Trump supporters don’t want the vaccine because why??

          This is fukkin weird.

          Too inclusive.

          Many Trump voters, especially those at highest risk, have taken the vaccine. Many younger people have not. I guess that revolves around a couple of facts:

          1. They don't think getting the virus will kill them or have long lasting negative effects.
          2. They've already had COVID and now have antibodies.

          Paul's case would be the second item.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            Copper
            wrote on 23 May 2021, 13:38 last edited by
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            Now Biden supporters with antibodies want the experimental vaccine because why??

            This is weird.

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              George K
              wrote on 9 Jun 2021, 11:53 last edited by
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              Science:

              https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.01.21258176v2

              Conclusions: Individuals who have had SARS-CoV-2 infection are unlikely to benefit from COVID-19 vaccination, and vaccines can be safely prioritized to those who have not been infected before.

              Summary: Cumulative incidence of COVID-19 was examined among 52238 employees in an American healthcare system. COVID-19 did not occur in anyone over the five months of the study among 2579 individuals previously infected with COVID-19, including 1359 who did not take the vaccine.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • G George K
                9 Jun 2021, 11:53

                Science:

                https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.01.21258176v2

                Conclusions: Individuals who have had SARS-CoV-2 infection are unlikely to benefit from COVID-19 vaccination, and vaccines can be safely prioritized to those who have not been infected before.

                Summary: Cumulative incidence of COVID-19 was examined among 52238 employees in an American healthcare system. COVID-19 did not occur in anyone over the five months of the study among 2579 individuals previously infected with COVID-19, including 1359 who did not take the vaccine.

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                Jolly
                wrote on 9 Jun 2021, 11:56 last edited by
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                @george-k said in Paul says "No".:

                Science:

                https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.01.21258176v2

                Conclusions: Individuals who have had SARS-CoV-2 infection are unlikely to benefit from COVID-19 vaccination, and vaccines can be safely prioritized to those who have not been infected before.

                Summary: Cumulative incidence of COVID-19 was examined among 52238 employees in an American healthcare system. COVID-19 did not occur in anyone over the five months of the study among 2579 individuals previously infected with COVID-19, including 1359 who did not take the vaccine.

                Well, imagine that.

                Dr. Paul was right...

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • J Jolly
                  9 Jun 2021, 11:56

                  @george-k said in Paul says "No".:

                  Science:

                  https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.01.21258176v2

                  Conclusions: Individuals who have had SARS-CoV-2 infection are unlikely to benefit from COVID-19 vaccination, and vaccines can be safely prioritized to those who have not been infected before.

                  Summary: Cumulative incidence of COVID-19 was examined among 52238 employees in an American healthcare system. COVID-19 did not occur in anyone over the five months of the study among 2579 individuals previously infected with COVID-19, including 1359 who did not take the vaccine.

                  Well, imagine that.

                  Dr. Paul was right...

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                  George K
                  wrote on 9 Jun 2021, 12:03 last edited by
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                  @jolly said in Paul says "No".:

                  Dr. Paul was right...

                  ...again.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

                  Doctor PhibesD 1 Reply Last reply 9 Jun 2021, 13:46
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                    Loki
                    wrote on 9 Jun 2021, 13:42 last edited by
                    #9

                    Let’s see what the Delta variant does.

                    Pronouncements like this since the pandemic started have axiomatically been wrong.

                    When you spit up in the air…

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                      9 Jun 2021, 12:03

                      @jolly said in Paul says "No".:

                      Dr. Paul was right...

                      ...again.

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                      Doctor Phibes
                      wrote on 9 Jun 2021, 13:46 last edited by
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                      @george-k said in Paul says "No".:

                      @jolly said in Paul says "No".:

                      Dr. Paul was right...

                      ...again.

                      He was correct. As a leader, I'm not at all sure he's right.

                      I was only joking

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                        George K
                        wrote on 9 Jun 2021, 13:52 last edited by
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                        @loki said in Paul says "No".:

                        Let’s see what the Delta variant does.

                        Indeed. There's talk about Britain not opening up so quickly. I know this is much more transmissible, and as @bachophile pointed out, increased transmissibility is worse than increased mortality. However, how much more dangerous is this variant?

                        In the UK, cases have bumped up a bit, but it looks like mortality hasn't - yet.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • G George K
                          9 Jun 2021, 13:52

                          @loki said in Paul says "No".:

                          Let’s see what the Delta variant does.

                          Indeed. There's talk about Britain not opening up so quickly. I know this is much more transmissible, and as @bachophile pointed out, increased transmissibility is worse than increased mortality. However, how much more dangerous is this variant?

                          In the UK, cases have bumped up a bit, but it looks like mortality hasn't - yet.

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                          Loki
                          wrote on 9 Jun 2021, 14:13 last edited by
                          #12

                          @george-k said in Paul says "No".:

                          @loki said in Paul says "No".:

                          Let’s see what the Delta variant does.

                          Indeed. There's talk about Britain not opening up so quickly. I know this is much more transmissible, and as @bachophile pointed out, increased transmissibility is worse than increased mortality. However, how much more dangerous is this variant?

                          In the UK, cases have bumped up a bit, but it looks like mortality hasn't - yet.

                          More lethal suggests this article which points to data from certain regions.

                          https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2021/06/08/covid-delta-variant/

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                            Doctor Phibes
                            wrote on 9 Jun 2021, 23:06 last edited by
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                            I wonder how many people who should get vaccinated will be dissuaded from doing so because Rand Paul came out and said he wouldn't. I wonder if anybody will think 'maybe he knows something....'

                            I was only joking

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on 10 Jun 2021, 00:18 last edited by
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                              I think Dr. Paul is medically correct. If you've had COVID, you have natural antibodies.

                              Now, if you want to make an argument for antibodies against the original strain vs. one of the new variants, I think that's worth studying.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

                              Doctor PhibesD 1 Reply Last reply 10 Jun 2021, 01:28
                              • J Jolly
                                10 Jun 2021, 00:18

                                I think Dr. Paul is medically correct. If you've had COVID, you have natural antibodies.

                                Now, if you want to make an argument for antibodies against the original strain vs. one of the new variants, I think that's worth studying.

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                                Doctor Phibes
                                wrote on 10 Jun 2021, 01:28 last edited by
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                                @jolly said in Paul says "No".:

                                I think Dr. Paul is medically correct. If you've had COVID, you have natural antibodies.

                                Now, if you want to make an argument for antibodies against the original strain vs. one of the new variants, I think that's worth studying.

                                He's medically correct, but he's providing rather poor leadership. The question is, why is he doing this?

                                I was only joking

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                                  10 Jun 2021, 01:28

                                  @jolly said in Paul says "No".:

                                  I think Dr. Paul is medically correct. If you've had COVID, you have natural antibodies.

                                  Now, if you want to make an argument for antibodies against the original strain vs. one of the new variants, I think that's worth studying.

                                  He's medically correct, but he's providing rather poor leadership. The question is, why is he doing this?

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                                  Copper
                                  wrote on 10 Jun 2021, 01:46 last edited by
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                                  @doctor-phibes said in Paul says "No".:

                                  @jolly said in Paul says "No".:

                                  I think Dr. Paul is medically correct. If you've had COVID, you have natural antibodies.

                                  Now, if you want to make an argument for antibodies against the original strain vs. one of the new variants, I think that's worth studying.

                                  He's medically correct, but he's providing rather poor leadership. The question is, why is he doing this?

                                  Maybe he isn't a big liar.

                                  The big liars don't care what they say.

                                  They just toe the line.

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