Paul says "No".
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Trumps signature achievement during Covid was “Operation Warp Speed”.
Moving mountains some might say to get regulatory approval for a vaccine.
Now Trump supporters don’t want the vaccine because why??
This is fukkin weird.
@rich said in Paul says "No".:
Trumps signature achievement during Covid was “Operation Warp Speed”.
Moving mountains some might say to get regulatory approval for a vaccine.
Now Trump supporters don’t want the vaccine because why??
This is fukkin weird.
Too inclusive.
Many Trump voters, especially those at highest risk, have taken the vaccine. Many younger people have not. I guess that revolves around a couple of facts:
- They don't think getting the virus will kill them or have long lasting negative effects.
- They've already had COVID and now have antibodies.
Paul's case would be the second item.
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Science:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.01.21258176v2
Conclusions: Individuals who have had SARS-CoV-2 infection are unlikely to benefit from COVID-19 vaccination, and vaccines can be safely prioritized to those who have not been infected before.
Summary: Cumulative incidence of COVID-19 was examined among 52238 employees in an American healthcare system. COVID-19 did not occur in anyone over the five months of the study among 2579 individuals previously infected with COVID-19, including 1359 who did not take the vaccine.
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Science:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.01.21258176v2
Conclusions: Individuals who have had SARS-CoV-2 infection are unlikely to benefit from COVID-19 vaccination, and vaccines can be safely prioritized to those who have not been infected before.
Summary: Cumulative incidence of COVID-19 was examined among 52238 employees in an American healthcare system. COVID-19 did not occur in anyone over the five months of the study among 2579 individuals previously infected with COVID-19, including 1359 who did not take the vaccine.
@george-k said in Paul says "No".:
Science:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.01.21258176v2
Conclusions: Individuals who have had SARS-CoV-2 infection are unlikely to benefit from COVID-19 vaccination, and vaccines can be safely prioritized to those who have not been infected before.
Summary: Cumulative incidence of COVID-19 was examined among 52238 employees in an American healthcare system. COVID-19 did not occur in anyone over the five months of the study among 2579 individuals previously infected with COVID-19, including 1359 who did not take the vaccine.
Well, imagine that.
Dr. Paul was right...
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@george-k said in Paul says "No".:
Science:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.01.21258176v2
Conclusions: Individuals who have had SARS-CoV-2 infection are unlikely to benefit from COVID-19 vaccination, and vaccines can be safely prioritized to those who have not been infected before.
Summary: Cumulative incidence of COVID-19 was examined among 52238 employees in an American healthcare system. COVID-19 did not occur in anyone over the five months of the study among 2579 individuals previously infected with COVID-19, including 1359 who did not take the vaccine.
Well, imagine that.
Dr. Paul was right...
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@george-k said in Paul says "No".:
@jolly said in Paul says "No".:
Dr. Paul was right...
...again.
He was correct. As a leader, I'm not at all sure he's right.
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@loki said in Paul says "No".:
Let’s see what the Delta variant does.
Indeed. There's talk about Britain not opening up so quickly. I know this is much more transmissible, and as @bachophile pointed out, increased transmissibility is worse than increased mortality. However, how much more dangerous is this variant?
In the UK, cases have bumped up a bit, but it looks like mortality hasn't - yet.
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@loki said in Paul says "No".:
Let’s see what the Delta variant does.
Indeed. There's talk about Britain not opening up so quickly. I know this is much more transmissible, and as @bachophile pointed out, increased transmissibility is worse than increased mortality. However, how much more dangerous is this variant?
In the UK, cases have bumped up a bit, but it looks like mortality hasn't - yet.
@george-k said in Paul says "No".:
@loki said in Paul says "No".:
Let’s see what the Delta variant does.
Indeed. There's talk about Britain not opening up so quickly. I know this is much more transmissible, and as @bachophile pointed out, increased transmissibility is worse than increased mortality. However, how much more dangerous is this variant?
In the UK, cases have bumped up a bit, but it looks like mortality hasn't - yet.
More lethal suggests this article which points to data from certain regions.
https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2021/06/08/covid-delta-variant/
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I wonder how many people who should get vaccinated will be dissuaded from doing so because Rand Paul came out and said he wouldn't. I wonder if anybody will think 'maybe he knows something....'
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I think Dr. Paul is medically correct. If you've had COVID, you have natural antibodies.
Now, if you want to make an argument for antibodies against the original strain vs. one of the new variants, I think that's worth studying.
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I think Dr. Paul is medically correct. If you've had COVID, you have natural antibodies.
Now, if you want to make an argument for antibodies against the original strain vs. one of the new variants, I think that's worth studying.
@jolly said in Paul says "No".:
I think Dr. Paul is medically correct. If you've had COVID, you have natural antibodies.
Now, if you want to make an argument for antibodies against the original strain vs. one of the new variants, I think that's worth studying.
He's medically correct, but he's providing rather poor leadership. The question is, why is he doing this?
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@jolly said in Paul says "No".:
I think Dr. Paul is medically correct. If you've had COVID, you have natural antibodies.
Now, if you want to make an argument for antibodies against the original strain vs. one of the new variants, I think that's worth studying.
He's medically correct, but he's providing rather poor leadership. The question is, why is he doing this?
@doctor-phibes said in Paul says "No".:
@jolly said in Paul says "No".:
I think Dr. Paul is medically correct. If you've had COVID, you have natural antibodies.
Now, if you want to make an argument for antibodies against the original strain vs. one of the new variants, I think that's worth studying.
He's medically correct, but he's providing rather poor leadership. The question is, why is he doing this?
Maybe he isn't a big liar.
The big liars don't care what they say.
They just toe the line.
