The Commission
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You know, we (the Feds) have arrested people for trespass using SWAT tactics. We have held people without bail for over three months, while they cooled their heels in jail. Much of the immediate reporting right after January 6th, turned out to be nothing but lies...No officer died from being beaten with a fire extiguisher. In fact the only person who died from violence was an unarmed protester, trying to break into the Capitol offices. Nobody was arrested with a firearm at the Capitol; this was no armed insurrection.
The Dems can basically shove this where the sun don't shine, as this is not justice, just political theater and retribution without regard to due process or rights.
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This has morphed into being all about 2022. The Dems need a shiny object to get people's minds off of bad news.
Look at the recent timing of the lowering of mask standards. One week, Fauci was all for it...Stay masked while alone in your car or while having sex with your wife. The next week, the bad economic news was being released, so the administration suddenly made lowering masking recommendations the story of the week.
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@jolly said in The Commission:
You know, we (the Feds) have arrested people for trespass using SWAT tactics. We have held people without bail for over three months, while they cooled their heels in jail. Much of the immediate reporting right after January 6th, turned out to be nothing but lies...No officer died from being beaten with a fire extiguisher. In fact the only person who died from violence was an unarmed protester, trying to break into the Capitol offices. Nobody was arrested with a firearm at the Capitol; this was no armed insurrection.
The Dems can basically shove this where the sun don't shine, as this is not justice, just political theater and retribution without regard to due process or rights.
In other words, a continuation of the last four years' attempted lynching of an administration.
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A lot of it.
Why do you think the new York AG announced a criminal probe of Trump's businesses this week? Trying their best to kill him off politically and also to nip in the bud any political careers of his children.
Face it, Trump obtained multiple gaming licenses in New Jersey. Multiple famous people could not. I suspect TPTB went through his stuff pretty thoroughly, before granting his licenses.
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What I'd like to know is if this was preventable. Did our security apparatus have any intel that it could credibly happen?
I can see how the dems are doing this in a partisan way... but that's a different issue.
I think there are legitimate questions here. I didn't think a bunch of yahoos could do that to the capitol.
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@xenon said in The Commission:
What I'd like to know is if this was preventable. Did our security apparatus have any intel that it could credibly happen?
I can see how the dems are doing this in a partisan way... but that's a different issue.
I think there are legitimate questions here. I didn't think a bunch of yahoos could do that to the capitol.
Most things are preventable, but how much time, effort and money do you wish to allocate to prevention?
For instance, if you are willing to die, you can assassinate almost any public person. To keep that person 100% totally safe would require keeping them in an insufferable bubble of security, and you better hope nobody penetrates your security screening.
As for this particular event, I'm sure there was some chatter out there. But there's always some level of chatter.
Stop and think...If the mob had only walked up the Capitol, screamed slogans, chanted and burned up their Congress Critter's email the next day, would we be having this conversation?
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@jolly said in The Commission:
I don't think anybody has normalized anything. I do think people have gained some perspective.
What went on at the Capitol is bad, but it wouldn't make a scab on a good cow's ass when compared to Seattle, Portland or Minnesota.
We are used to the protesting and riots within cities and states, nothing new there. An attack on the most important symbol of democracy is two next levels up, and I could hear every GOP of days of yore say that.
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@loki said in The Commission:
@jolly said in The Commission:
I don't think anybody has normalized anything. I do think people have gained some perspective.
What went on at the Capitol is bad, but it wouldn't make a scab on a good cow's ass when compared to Seattle, Portland or Minnesota.
We are used to the protesting and riots within cities and states, nothing new there.
So you think the "normalization" of the Capitol riot is the real next-level problem here, while you accept the "normalization" of cities being taken over by the left's civilian armies, simply because one "normal" is newer than the other.
And that's accepting your claim that anybody is accepting as "normal" the Capitol invasion, which is not true of any mainstream opinion I'm aware of.
On the other hand, the broken eggs of cities being burned and looted and taken over by leftists is legit accepted as normal, in the face of the far greater evil of a white cop somewhere in the country doing something terrible to a black person.
An attack on the most important symbol of democracy is two next levels up, and I could hear every GOP of days of yore say that.
if it was a real, planned, military style attack, sure. This was an attack of opportunity, enabled by some unlocked and unguarded doors of this "most important symbol of democracy", by a handful of imbeciles who are paying the heaviest price we as a society can exact on them.
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@loki said in The Commission:
@jolly said in The Commission:
I don't think anybody has normalized anything. I do think people have gained some perspective.
What went on at the Capitol is bad, but it wouldn't make a scab on a good cow's ass when compared to Seattle, Portland or Minnesota.
We are used to the protesting and riots within cities and states, nothing new there. An attack on the most important symbol of democracy is two next levels up, and I could hear every GOP of days of yore say that.
I'm really not used to seeing autonomous zones in U.S. Cities, guarded by people packing weapons.
Is that normal out y'all's way?
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@jolly said in The Commission:
@loki said in The Commission:
@jolly said in The Commission:
I don't think anybody has normalized anything. I do think people have gained some perspective.
What went on at the Capitol is bad, but it wouldn't make a scab on a good cow's ass when compared to Seattle, Portland or Minnesota.
We are used to the protesting and riots within cities and states, nothing new there. An attack on the most important symbol of democracy is two next levels up, and I could hear every GOP of days of yore say that.
I'm really not used to seeing autonomous zones in U.S. Cities, guarded by people packing weapons.
Is that normal out y'all's way?
Or police stations being abandoned and communities left to fend for themselves against anarchy, all because the media-driven culture was, by and large, supportive of the anarchists.