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  • MikM Away
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    Mik
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    Bomb Havana. But get all the cool old cars out first.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • MikM Mik

      Bomb Havana. But get all the cool old cars out first.

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      George K
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      #19

      @Mik said in Havana Syndrome:

      Bomb Havana. But get all the cool old cars out first.

      And the cigars.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • MikM Away
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        Meh. The Dominicans are just as good. Cubans are like Coors used to be east of the Rockies.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          George K
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          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            #22

            As any detective would ask, what is the motive for covering up? It is not like Cuba is our strategic partner or anything like that.

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              George K
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              Who's running the country for the next ten days?

              This man is in charge of the nuclear force.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • George KG George K

                Who's running the country for the next ten days?

                This man is in charge of the nuclear force.

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                #24

                @George-K said in Havana Syndrome:

                This man is in charge of the nuclear force.

                That made me think. I would assume that there is some sort of "2 factor authentication" before anything could be done with our nuclear bombs, right?

                I dont think that the president could just say, "fire all the bombs at Russia" and it would be done?

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                  @George-K said in Havana Syndrome:

                  This man is in charge of the nuclear force.

                  That made me think. I would assume that there is some sort of "2 factor authentication" before anything could be done with our nuclear bombs, right?

                  I dont think that the president could just say, "fire all the bombs at Russia" and it would be done?

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                  @taiwan_girl said in Havana Syndrome:

                  @George-K said in Havana Syndrome:

                  This man is in charge of the nuclear force.

                  That made me think. I would assume that there is some sort of "2 factor authentication" before anything could be done with our nuclear bombs, right?

                  I dont think that the president could just say, "fire all the bombs at Russia" and it would be done?

                  The short answer is yes, the President is the SOLE person who can authorize the use of nukes. That being said, what really happens (he doesn't have a button, he doesn't have launch codes) is he asks/orders his senior officials to execute the order. Ultimately a number of senior officials and military individuals are involved in carrying it out. If the order was as you said above (i.e., asks for it out of the blue), I'd imagine there would be senior officials who would refuse the order.

                  Some good articles, at least read the first bits...

                  https://www.armscontrol.org/act/2021-06/features/nuclear-launch-authority-too-big-decision-just-president

                  https://www.airuniversity.af.edu/Wild-Blue-Yonder/Articles/Article-Display/Article/3792833/worried-about-potus-nuclear-weapons-authorization-you-need-not-be-the-integrity/

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                  • 89th8 89th

                    @taiwan_girl said in Havana Syndrome:

                    @George-K said in Havana Syndrome:

                    This man is in charge of the nuclear force.

                    That made me think. I would assume that there is some sort of "2 factor authentication" before anything could be done with our nuclear bombs, right?

                    I dont think that the president could just say, "fire all the bombs at Russia" and it would be done?

                    The short answer is yes, the President is the SOLE person who can authorize the use of nukes. That being said, what really happens (he doesn't have a button, he doesn't have launch codes) is he asks/orders his senior officials to execute the order. Ultimately a number of senior officials and military individuals are involved in carrying it out. If the order was as you said above (i.e., asks for it out of the blue), I'd imagine there would be senior officials who would refuse the order.

                    Some good articles, at least read the first bits...

                    https://www.armscontrol.org/act/2021-06/features/nuclear-launch-authority-too-big-decision-just-president

                    https://www.airuniversity.af.edu/Wild-Blue-Yonder/Articles/Article-Display/Article/3792833/worried-about-potus-nuclear-weapons-authorization-you-need-not-be-the-integrity/

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                    #26

                    @89th Interesting stuff. Thanks!

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                    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                      @89th Interesting stuff. Thanks!

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                      @taiwan_girl Sure thing! If you want to read a bit more, there is the "football" that is always carried within a short distance from the President. If you ever watch the President on the move, look closely and you'll always see some military person carrying the 45-pound leather bag.

                      https://apnews.com/article/nuclear-football-presidential-satchel-war-df3c1e65cfd21f137fd2fc7e7d62ffab

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                      • 89th8 89th

                        @taiwan_girl Sure thing! If you want to read a bit more, there is the "football" that is always carried within a short distance from the President. If you ever watch the President on the move, look closely and you'll always see some military person carrying the 45-pound leather bag.

                        https://apnews.com/article/nuclear-football-presidential-satchel-war-df3c1e65cfd21f137fd2fc7e7d62ffab

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                        @89th said in Havana Syndrome:

                        always carried within a short distance from the President

                        Define "short."

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          I'd imagine it's within a 1 minute walk at any point.

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                          • George KG George K

                            Who's running the country for the next ten days?

                            This man is in charge of the nuclear force.

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                            @George-K said in Havana Syndrome:

                            This man is in charge of the nuclear force.

                            I know America's important, but I'm pretty sure that's a fundamental force of nature.

                            I was only joking

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