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Meanwhile, in Lokiville...

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  • RenaudaR Offline
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    Renauda
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    #9

    Maybe in your republocrat world.

    Elbows up!

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
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      #10

      Everybody has a religion or faith of some kind. Even atheism is a belief system.

      What happens when the government tells you "No"?

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • RenaudaR Offline
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        Renauda
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        #11

        Just stop it and listen. No government here is telling people "no" to their religion or beliefs.

        We trying to prevent the collapse of our public heath care system amid a third wave of this pandemic. The provincial government rightly or wrongly has put in place some short term rules the public must follow. Why is that? Think about it.

        I understand you don't like our universal health care system and would be happy to see it fail. Fine, that's your prerogative. But stop hiding behind what you refer to as freedom of religion in your hope and desire to see the front line delivery of health care here collapse.

        Elbows up!

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        • CopperC Offline
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          Copper
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          #12

          I think the problem is inconsistent enforcement of inconsistent rules.

          A court later ruled that Coates would not be allowed to challenge the constitutional validity of Alberta’s Public Health Act during his trial on May 3 and 4, and that the government were not required to offer scientific evidence justifying the public health order.
          The judge also reportedly allowed Coates’ prosecutor to remain anonymous.

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          • CopperC Copper

            I think the problem is inconsistent enforcement of inconsistent rules.

            A court later ruled that Coates would not be allowed to challenge the constitutional validity of Alberta’s Public Health Act during his trial on May 3 and 4, and that the government were not required to offer scientific evidence justifying the public health order.
            The judge also reportedly allowed Coates’ prosecutor to remain anonymous.

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            Loki
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            #13

            @copper said in Meanwhile, in Lokiville...:

            I think the problem is inconsistent enforcement of inconsistent rules.

            A court later ruled that Coates would not be allowed to challenge the constitutional validity of Alberta’s Public Health Act during his trial on May 3 and 4, and that the government were not required to offer scientific evidence justifying the public health order.
            The judge also reportedly allowed Coates’ prosecutor to remain anonymous.

            I think you are right. Imagine if the pastor were black, do we think a show/staged take down would have happened?

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              @copper said in Meanwhile, in Lokiville...:

              I think the problem is inconsistent enforcement of inconsistent rules.

              A court later ruled that Coates would not be allowed to challenge the constitutional validity of Alberta’s Public Health Act during his trial on May 3 and 4, and that the government were not required to offer scientific evidence justifying the public health order.
              The judge also reportedly allowed Coates’ prosecutor to remain anonymous.

              I think you are right. Imagine if the pastor were black, do we think a show/staged take down would have happened?

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              Horace
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              #14

              @loki said in Meanwhile, in Lokiville...:

              @copper said in Meanwhile, in Lokiville...:

              I think the problem is inconsistent enforcement of inconsistent rules.

              A court later ruled that Coates would not be allowed to challenge the constitutional validity of Alberta’s Public Health Act during his trial on May 3 and 4, and that the government were not required to offer scientific evidence justifying the public health order.
              The judge also reportedly allowed Coates’ prosecutor to remain anonymous.

              I think you are right. Imagine if the pastor were black, do we think a show/staged take down would have happened?

              @Renauda, what do you think?

              Education is extremely important.

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              • CopperC Copper

                I think the problem is inconsistent enforcement of inconsistent rules.

                A court later ruled that Coates would not be allowed to challenge the constitutional validity of Alberta’s Public Health Act during his trial on May 3 and 4, and that the government were not required to offer scientific evidence justifying the public health order.
                The judge also reportedly allowed Coates’ prosecutor to remain anonymous.

                RenaudaR Offline
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                Renauda
                wrote on last edited by Renauda
                #15

                @copper said in Meanwhile, in Lokiville...:

                I think the problem is inconsistent enforcement of inconsistent rules.

                Precisely. You nailed it and that is the fault of the provincial government in articulating and enforcing its own rules with any consistency all along.

                Elbows up!

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                • HoraceH Horace

                  @loki said in Meanwhile, in Lokiville...:

                  @copper said in Meanwhile, in Lokiville...:

                  I think the problem is inconsistent enforcement of inconsistent rules.

                  A court later ruled that Coates would not be allowed to challenge the constitutional validity of Alberta’s Public Health Act during his trial on May 3 and 4, and that the government were not required to offer scientific evidence justifying the public health order.
                  The judge also reportedly allowed Coates’ prosecutor to remain anonymous.

                  I think you are right. Imagine if the pastor were black, do we think a show/staged take down would have happened?

                  @Renauda, what do you think?

                  RenaudaR Offline
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                  Renauda
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                  #16

                  @horace said in Meanwhile, in Lokiville...:

                  @loki said in Meanwhile, in Lokiville...:

                  @copper said in Meanwhile, in Lokiville...:

                  I think the problem is inconsistent enforcement of inconsistent rules.

                  A court later ruled that Coates would not be allowed to challenge the constitutional validity of Alberta’s Public Health Act during his trial on May 3 and 4, and that the government were not required to offer scientific evidence justifying the public health order.
                  The judge also reportedly allowed Coates’ prosecutor to remain anonymous.

                  I think you are right. Imagine if the pastor were black, do we think a show/staged take down would have happened?

                  @Renauda, what do you think?

                  I don't care. It's not about race. The pastor was non compliant. Full stop.

                  Elbows up!

                  HoraceH 1 Reply Last reply
                  • RenaudaR Renauda

                    @horace said in Meanwhile, in Lokiville...:

                    @loki said in Meanwhile, in Lokiville...:

                    @copper said in Meanwhile, in Lokiville...:

                    I think the problem is inconsistent enforcement of inconsistent rules.

                    A court later ruled that Coates would not be allowed to challenge the constitutional validity of Alberta’s Public Health Act during his trial on May 3 and 4, and that the government were not required to offer scientific evidence justifying the public health order.
                    The judge also reportedly allowed Coates’ prosecutor to remain anonymous.

                    I think you are right. Imagine if the pastor were black, do we think a show/staged take down would have happened?

                    @Renauda, what do you think?

                    I don't care. It's not about race. The pastor was non compliant. Full stop.

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                    Horace
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                    @renauda said in Meanwhile, in Lokiville...:

                    @horace said in Meanwhile, in Lokiville...:

                    @loki said in Meanwhile, in Lokiville...:

                    @copper said in Meanwhile, in Lokiville...:

                    I think the problem is inconsistent enforcement of inconsistent rules.

                    A court later ruled that Coates would not be allowed to challenge the constitutional validity of Alberta’s Public Health Act during his trial on May 3 and 4, and that the government were not required to offer scientific evidence justifying the public health order.
                    The judge also reportedly allowed Coates’ prosecutor to remain anonymous.

                    I think you are right. Imagine if the pastor were black, do we think a show/staged take down would have happened?

                    @Renauda, what do you think?

                    I don't care. It's not about race. The pastor was non compliant. Full stop.

                    The question was whether you think it would have happened if the pastor had been black, not your own personal opinion about what ought to happen.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • HoraceH Horace

                      @renauda said in Meanwhile, in Lokiville...:

                      @horace said in Meanwhile, in Lokiville...:

                      @loki said in Meanwhile, in Lokiville...:

                      @copper said in Meanwhile, in Lokiville...:

                      I think the problem is inconsistent enforcement of inconsistent rules.

                      A court later ruled that Coates would not be allowed to challenge the constitutional validity of Alberta’s Public Health Act during his trial on May 3 and 4, and that the government were not required to offer scientific evidence justifying the public health order.
                      The judge also reportedly allowed Coates’ prosecutor to remain anonymous.

                      I think you are right. Imagine if the pastor were black, do we think a show/staged take down would have happened?

                      @Renauda, what do you think?

                      I don't care. It's not about race. The pastor was non compliant. Full stop.

                      The question was whether you think it would have happened if the pastor had been black, not your own personal opinion about what ought to happen.

                      RenaudaR Offline
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                      Renauda
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #18

                      @horace

                      Yes he would have been taken down regardless. And rightly so.

                      Elbows up!

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                      • RenaudaR Renauda

                        @horace

                        Yes he would have been taken down regardless. And rightly so.

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                        Loki
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                        @renauda said in Meanwhile, in Lokiville...:

                        @horace

                        Yes he would have been taken down regardless. And rightly so.

                        In the US, no way.

                        The Pastor was clearly looking for a fight and he was obliged with a full mighty public display and perp walk. I think you can find fault on both sides, for most people it’s simply a matter of which side you are on so they know which talking points to give you.

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                        • L Loki

                          @renauda said in Meanwhile, in Lokiville...:

                          @horace

                          Yes he would have been taken down regardless. And rightly so.

                          In the US, no way.

                          The Pastor was clearly looking for a fight and he was obliged with a full mighty public display and perp walk. I think you can find fault on both sides, for most people it’s simply a matter of which side you are on so they know which talking points to give you.

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                          Renauda
                          wrote on last edited by Renauda
                          #20

                          @loki

                          I am no fan of the provincial government either here or Ontario. But I do respect the police and the work they do.

                          There's good reason to for the public to follow the rules and the authorities enforce the rules when the public is in defiance:

                          https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/alberta-covid-coronavirus-may-10-1.6020370

                          Elbows up!

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