Meanwhile, in Lokiville...
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Good for the police. Better late than never to round up these pastors who are defying public health rules. Arrest them all and put a seal on their churches. Right now Alberta is No. 1 in North America in Covid cases per capita. We are in a two week lock down. The rules are clear - especially for places of worship. Calgary has the highest rate of Covid in the province.
I could care less about freedom of religion at the moment. If people want to pray they can pray at home.
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Just stop it and listen. No government here is telling people "no" to their religion or beliefs.
We trying to prevent the collapse of our public heath care system amid a third wave of this pandemic. The provincial government rightly or wrongly has put in place some short term rules the public must follow. Why is that? Think about it.
I understand you don't like our universal health care system and would be happy to see it fail. Fine, that's your prerogative. But stop hiding behind what you refer to as freedom of religion in your hope and desire to see the front line delivery of health care here collapse.
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I think the problem is inconsistent enforcement of inconsistent rules.
A court later ruled that Coates would not be allowed to challenge the constitutional validity of Alberta’s Public Health Act during his trial on May 3 and 4, and that the government were not required to offer scientific evidence justifying the public health order.
The judge also reportedly allowed Coates’ prosecutor to remain anonymous. -
I think the problem is inconsistent enforcement of inconsistent rules.
A court later ruled that Coates would not be allowed to challenge the constitutional validity of Alberta’s Public Health Act during his trial on May 3 and 4, and that the government were not required to offer scientific evidence justifying the public health order.
The judge also reportedly allowed Coates’ prosecutor to remain anonymous.@copper said in Meanwhile, in Lokiville...:
I think the problem is inconsistent enforcement of inconsistent rules.
A court later ruled that Coates would not be allowed to challenge the constitutional validity of Alberta’s Public Health Act during his trial on May 3 and 4, and that the government were not required to offer scientific evidence justifying the public health order.
The judge also reportedly allowed Coates’ prosecutor to remain anonymous.I think you are right. Imagine if the pastor were black, do we think a show/staged take down would have happened?
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@copper said in Meanwhile, in Lokiville...:
I think the problem is inconsistent enforcement of inconsistent rules.
A court later ruled that Coates would not be allowed to challenge the constitutional validity of Alberta’s Public Health Act during his trial on May 3 and 4, and that the government were not required to offer scientific evidence justifying the public health order.
The judge also reportedly allowed Coates’ prosecutor to remain anonymous.I think you are right. Imagine if the pastor were black, do we think a show/staged take down would have happened?
@loki said in Meanwhile, in Lokiville...:
@copper said in Meanwhile, in Lokiville...:
I think the problem is inconsistent enforcement of inconsistent rules.
A court later ruled that Coates would not be allowed to challenge the constitutional validity of Alberta’s Public Health Act during his trial on May 3 and 4, and that the government were not required to offer scientific evidence justifying the public health order.
The judge also reportedly allowed Coates’ prosecutor to remain anonymous.I think you are right. Imagine if the pastor were black, do we think a show/staged take down would have happened?
@Renauda, what do you think?
Education is extremely important.
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I think the problem is inconsistent enforcement of inconsistent rules.
A court later ruled that Coates would not be allowed to challenge the constitutional validity of Alberta’s Public Health Act during his trial on May 3 and 4, and that the government were not required to offer scientific evidence justifying the public health order.
The judge also reportedly allowed Coates’ prosecutor to remain anonymous.@copper said in Meanwhile, in Lokiville...:
I think the problem is inconsistent enforcement of inconsistent rules.
Precisely. You nailed it and that is the fault of the provincial government in articulating and enforcing its own rules with any consistency all along.
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@loki said in Meanwhile, in Lokiville...:
@copper said in Meanwhile, in Lokiville...:
I think the problem is inconsistent enforcement of inconsistent rules.
A court later ruled that Coates would not be allowed to challenge the constitutional validity of Alberta’s Public Health Act during his trial on May 3 and 4, and that the government were not required to offer scientific evidence justifying the public health order.
The judge also reportedly allowed Coates’ prosecutor to remain anonymous.I think you are right. Imagine if the pastor were black, do we think a show/staged take down would have happened?
@Renauda, what do you think?
@horace said in Meanwhile, in Lokiville...:
@loki said in Meanwhile, in Lokiville...:
@copper said in Meanwhile, in Lokiville...:
I think the problem is inconsistent enforcement of inconsistent rules.
A court later ruled that Coates would not be allowed to challenge the constitutional validity of Alberta’s Public Health Act during his trial on May 3 and 4, and that the government were not required to offer scientific evidence justifying the public health order.
The judge also reportedly allowed Coates’ prosecutor to remain anonymous.I think you are right. Imagine if the pastor were black, do we think a show/staged take down would have happened?
@Renauda, what do you think?
I don't care. It's not about race. The pastor was non compliant. Full stop.
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@horace said in Meanwhile, in Lokiville...:
@loki said in Meanwhile, in Lokiville...:
@copper said in Meanwhile, in Lokiville...:
I think the problem is inconsistent enforcement of inconsistent rules.
A court later ruled that Coates would not be allowed to challenge the constitutional validity of Alberta’s Public Health Act during his trial on May 3 and 4, and that the government were not required to offer scientific evidence justifying the public health order.
The judge also reportedly allowed Coates’ prosecutor to remain anonymous.I think you are right. Imagine if the pastor were black, do we think a show/staged take down would have happened?
@Renauda, what do you think?
I don't care. It's not about race. The pastor was non compliant. Full stop.
@renauda said in Meanwhile, in Lokiville...:
@horace said in Meanwhile, in Lokiville...:
@loki said in Meanwhile, in Lokiville...:
@copper said in Meanwhile, in Lokiville...:
I think the problem is inconsistent enforcement of inconsistent rules.
A court later ruled that Coates would not be allowed to challenge the constitutional validity of Alberta’s Public Health Act during his trial on May 3 and 4, and that the government were not required to offer scientific evidence justifying the public health order.
The judge also reportedly allowed Coates’ prosecutor to remain anonymous.I think you are right. Imagine if the pastor were black, do we think a show/staged take down would have happened?
@Renauda, what do you think?
I don't care. It's not about race. The pastor was non compliant. Full stop.
The question was whether you think it would have happened if the pastor had been black, not your own personal opinion about what ought to happen.
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@renauda said in Meanwhile, in Lokiville...:
@horace said in Meanwhile, in Lokiville...:
@loki said in Meanwhile, in Lokiville...:
@copper said in Meanwhile, in Lokiville...:
I think the problem is inconsistent enforcement of inconsistent rules.
A court later ruled that Coates would not be allowed to challenge the constitutional validity of Alberta’s Public Health Act during his trial on May 3 and 4, and that the government were not required to offer scientific evidence justifying the public health order.
The judge also reportedly allowed Coates’ prosecutor to remain anonymous.I think you are right. Imagine if the pastor were black, do we think a show/staged take down would have happened?
@Renauda, what do you think?
I don't care. It's not about race. The pastor was non compliant. Full stop.
The question was whether you think it would have happened if the pastor had been black, not your own personal opinion about what ought to happen.
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@renauda said in Meanwhile, in Lokiville...:
Yes he would have been taken down regardless. And rightly so.
In the US, no way.
The Pastor was clearly looking for a fight and he was obliged with a full mighty public display and perp walk. I think you can find fault on both sides, for most people it’s simply a matter of which side you are on so they know which talking points to give you.
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@renauda said in Meanwhile, in Lokiville...:
Yes he would have been taken down regardless. And rightly so.
In the US, no way.
The Pastor was clearly looking for a fight and he was obliged with a full mighty public display and perp walk. I think you can find fault on both sides, for most people it’s simply a matter of which side you are on so they know which talking points to give you.
I am no fan of the provincial government either here or Ontario. But I do respect the police and the work they do.
There's good reason to for the public to follow the rules and the authorities enforce the rules when the public is in defiance:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/alberta-covid-coronavirus-may-10-1.6020370
