Vaccination etiquette question
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Well, that's three of you against the massed ranks of something-or-other.
Galluping towards liberalism!
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No brainer.
Let the group vote. If they vote for everybody to attend, insist on some basic infection control stuff...
- Temp checks at the door.
- Social distancing, as much as possible.
- No buffet.
- Masking, as much as possible.
- Frequent hand sanitization.
At this time next year, there exists a likelihood one of your class will be dead. How bad do y'all want to see each other?
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Have you missed the part where Copper is a retired white collar worker that lived in the burbs before retiring? Have you missed the fact that he has been vaccinated?
Have you missed the part where Horace is a white collar worker living in an extremely urban area?
Have you missed the part where I would generally be considered white collar, live in the burbs, and am planning on being vaccinated as well?
@lufins-dad said in Vaccination etiquette question:
Have you missed the part where Copper is a retired white collar worker that lived in the burbs before retiring? Have you missed the fact that he has been vaccinated?
Have you missed the part where Horace is a white collar worker living in an extremely urban area?
Have you missed the part where I would generally be considered white collar, live in the burbs, and am planning on being vaccinated as well?
I see your point now. I wasn’t accusing anyone on this thread of such. I was saying that the party messaging on many topics is so out of touch it is being reflected in voting patterns and now even party identification.
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@lufins-dad said in Vaccination etiquette question:
Have you missed the part where Copper is a retired white collar worker that lived in the burbs before retiring? Have you missed the fact that he has been vaccinated?
Have you missed the part where Horace is a white collar worker living in an extremely urban area?
Have you missed the part where I would generally be considered white collar, live in the burbs, and am planning on being vaccinated as well?
I see your point now. I wasn’t accusing anyone on this thread of such. I was saying that the party messaging on many topics is so out of touch it is being reflected in voting patterns and now even party identification.
@loki Right now, I see very little masking in the rural areas and not much more in the city. Older folks do mask more, younger people almost none at all.
Either through infection, vaccination or just plain don't give a damn, people have voted with their feet to get on with life. They look at the numbers between open states and more restrictive states, and don't see the numbers that make sense to continue extraordinary measures.
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@loki Right now, I see very little masking in the rural areas and not much more in the city. Older folks do mask more, younger people almost none at all.
Either through infection, vaccination or just plain don't give a damn, people have voted with their feet to get on with life. They look at the numbers between open states and more restrictive states, and don't see the numbers that make sense to continue extraordinary measures.
@jolly said in Vaccination etiquette question:
They look at the numbers between open states and more restrictive states, and don't see the numbers that make sense to continue extraordinary measures.
There are different "they"s. Some areas have more thoughtful communities than others.
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@jolly said in Vaccination etiquette question:
They look at the numbers between open states and more restrictive states, and don't see the numbers that make sense to continue extraordinary measures.
There are different "they"s. Some areas have more thoughtful communities than others.
@aqua-letifer said in Vaccination etiquette question:
@jolly said in Vaccination etiquette question:
They look at the numbers between open states and more restrictive states, and don't see the numbers that make sense to continue extraordinary measures.
There are different "they"s. Some areas have more thoughtful communities than others.
Good. You live in the most thoughtful community of assholes in the world.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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You still see lots of masks here. Nobody goes into the supermarket without a mask on, and people wear them outside, which I generally don't bother with unless I'm likely to meet other people - the number of people around here who actually walk anywhere is vanishingly small (in numbers, not stature), so it typically isn't an issue.
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@aqua-letifer said in Vaccination etiquette question:
@jolly said in Vaccination etiquette question:
They look at the numbers between open states and more restrictive states, and don't see the numbers that make sense to continue extraordinary measures.
There are different "they"s. Some areas have more thoughtful communities than others.
Good. You live in the most thoughtful community of assholes in the world.
@jolly said in Vaccination etiquette question:
@aqua-letifer said in Vaccination etiquette question:
@jolly said in Vaccination etiquette question:
They look at the numbers between open states and more restrictive states, and don't see the numbers that make sense to continue extraordinary measures.
There are different "they"s. Some areas have more thoughtful communities than others.
Good. You live in the most thoughtful community of assholes in the world.
Not at all! I live in a very average community, mostly conservative-leaning. Masks here are about 50/50. In other areas outside of here, though, they're a lot more prevalent.
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Right now with the variants, particularly P1, even if you are vaccinated it is best to to continue to follow the masking, social distancing and hand washing protocols. I wouldn't even consider attending any function at which there are more than a half dozen people. Even then it would have to be outdoors and no shared food or buffet.
Too many unknowns whirling about these current variants for my whole trust in the vaccine.
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Honestly if I’m vaccinated I don’t care if someone else is. It’s like...I’m wearing a seatbelt, if you don’t that’s on you. That being said, I think it’s reasonable to require vaccinations to attend.
@89th said in Vaccination etiquette question:
Honestly if I’m vaccinated I don’t care if someone else is. It’s like...I’m wearing a seatbelt, if you don’t that’s on you. That being said, I think it’s reasonable to require vaccinations to attend.
The longer the virus is out there, the more mutations that will occur and increasing the chance that it will be deadlier and/or render your current vaccine very significantly less effective.
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@89th said in Vaccination etiquette question:
Honestly if I’m vaccinated I don’t care if someone else is. It’s like...I’m wearing a seatbelt, if you don’t that’s on you. That being said, I think it’s reasonable to require vaccinations to attend.
The longer the virus is out there, the more mutations that will occur and increasing the chance that it will be deadlier and/or render your current vaccine very significantly less effective.
@loki said in Vaccination etiquette question:
The longer the virus is out there, the more mutations that will occur and increasing the chance that it will be deadlier and/or render your current vaccine very significantly less effective.
Good points. Beyond that there's also the whole, y'know, how much it would suck if someone more vulnerable were to get permanently fucked up or die because some unvaccinated jackass spread the disease around. Be kinda nice if there were some way that could be more or less prevented.
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And none of the vaccines are 100% effective.
So, it makes sense that if everybody is vaccinated, then the chances of catching it are much much smaller.
Every un- vaccinated person increases the odds of getting COVID by a little bit.
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And none of the vaccines are 100% effective.
So, it makes sense that if everybody is vaccinated, then the chances of catching it are much much smaller.
Every un- vaccinated person increases the odds of getting COVID by a little bit.
@taiwan_girl said in Vaccination etiquette question:
Every un- vaccinated person increases the odds of getting COVID and making COVID worse on a global scale by a little bit.
FIFY.
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The longer the virus is out there, the more mutations that will occur.
Possible scenario: We have a case where the vaccine no longer can keep up. What will life look like?
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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This is the kind of panic that will make reasonable people crazy for years to come.
Panic.
What exactly is my danger if I have been vaccinated?
Yes, I know, I know, BEWARE! the vaccine IS NOT PERFECT!!!
OK, so exactly how imperfect is it?
I'm ready to drop the masks as soon as everyone who wants the vaccine has the vaccine, at the latest.
I'm ready to drop my mask now. I have the vaccine, I trust it.
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The longer the virus is out there, the more mutations that will occur.
Possible scenario: We have a case where the vaccine no longer can keep up. What will life look like?
@jolly said in Vaccination etiquette question:
The longer the virus is out there, the more mutations that will occur.
Possible scenario: We have a case where the vaccine no longer can keep up. What will life look like?
Another one - we have a mutation where the mortality rate is 5%, or 10%.
Honestly, refusing to get vaccinated without a bloody good reason is unconscionable.
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@jolly said in Vaccination etiquette question:
The longer the virus is out there, the more mutations that will occur.
Possible scenario: We have a case where the vaccine no longer can keep up. What will life look like?
Another one - we have a mutation where the mortality rate is 5%, or 10%.
Honestly, refusing to get vaccinated without a bloody good reason is unconscionable.
@doctor-phibes said in Vaccination etiquette question:
@jolly said in Vaccination etiquette question:
The longer the virus is out there, the more mutations that will occur.
Possible scenario: We have a case where the vaccine no longer can keep up. What will life look like?
Another one - we have a mutation where the mortality rate is 5%, or 10%.
Honestly, refusing to get vaccinated without a bloody good reason is unconscionable.
It's not refusing, people will be taking what's available, similar to the flu vaccine. But I don't see Americans continuing to live masked up and sanitized.
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@doctor-phibes said in Vaccination etiquette question:
@jolly said in Vaccination etiquette question:
The longer the virus is out there, the more mutations that will occur.
Possible scenario: We have a case where the vaccine no longer can keep up. What will life look like?
Another one - we have a mutation where the mortality rate is 5%, or 10%.
Honestly, refusing to get vaccinated without a bloody good reason is unconscionable.
It's not refusing, people will be taking what's available, similar to the flu vaccine. But I don't see Americans continuing to live masked up and sanitized.
@jolly said in Vaccination etiquette question:
It's not refusing, people will be taking what's available, similar to the flu vaccine. But I don't see Americans continuing to live masked up and sanitized.
There are plenty of people indicating that they're going to remain unvaccinated, and don't trust the vaccines - that's what I was referring to. Obviously, if somebody hasn't been offered a vaccine, there's not a whole lot they can do about it.
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This is the kind of panic that will make reasonable people crazy for years to come.
Panic.
What exactly is my danger if I have been vaccinated?
Yes, I know, I know, BEWARE! the vaccine IS NOT PERFECT!!!
OK, so exactly how imperfect is it?
I'm ready to drop the masks as soon as everyone who wants the vaccine has the vaccine, at the latest.
I'm ready to drop my mask now. I have the vaccine, I trust it.
@copper said in Vaccination etiquette question:
I'm ready to drop my mask now. I have the vaccine, I trust it.
Fine by me. Not only have you been vaccinated but you have also had COVID in the last six months. You're invulnerable to it now. You probably cannot vector it either.
Perhaps you should volunteer to help in Brazilian hospitals.
There is no panic from what I can see.
Elbows up!
