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  • MikM Mik

    The anger seems to be coming from both sides. I know several people who ridicule the vaccinated as sheep/lemmings/drones. The one who first brought it up is particularly derisive on the subject. But she lives in Texas and won't be coming anyway, so I suppose she just brought it up to get on her high horse. She has a lot of health problems, so I hope the horse doesn't kill her.

    But yeah, at this time is important to remember.

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    @mik said in Vaccination etiquette question:

    I know several people who ridicule the vaccinated as sheep/lemmings/drones.

    At the risk of being Ax, you could point out that lemmings have been completely unfairly represented in the media for decades based on a very bad wildlife documentary, and drones are used to bomb the shit out of bad people by 'murrica! You can say what you like about sheep of course, but if you want to keep it clean, mention that Jesus was called the lamb of God.

    I was only joking

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      #29

      Reading this thread I see why the GOP is losing the collar counties on big cities.

      Suburban GOP voters are going bye bye.

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      • L Loki

        Reading this thread I see why the GOP is losing the collar counties on big cities.

        Suburban GOP voters are going bye bye.

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        @loki said in Vaccination etiquette question:

        Reading this thread I see why the GOP is losing the collar counties on big cities.

        Suburban GOP voters are going bye bye.

        🙄

        The Brad

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        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

          @loki said in Vaccination etiquette question:

          Reading this thread I see why the GOP is losing the collar counties on big cities.

          Suburban GOP voters are going bye bye.

          🙄

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          @lufins-dad said in Vaccination etiquette question:

          @loki said in Vaccination etiquette question:

          Reading this thread I see why the GOP is losing the collar counties on big cities.

          Suburban GOP voters are going bye bye.

          🙄

          Check out the latest Gallup poll on party identification. It has a long track record.

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            @Loki

            Have you missed the part where Copper is a retired white collar worker that lived in the burbs before retiring? Have you missed the fact that he has been vaccinated?

            Have you missed the part where Horace is a white collar worker living in an extremely urban area?

            Have you missed the part where I would generally be considered white collar, live in the burbs, and am planning on being vaccinated as well?

            The Brad

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              Doctor Phibes
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              #33

              Well, that's three of you against the massed ranks of something-or-other.

              Galluping towards liberalism!

              I was only joking

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                Jolly
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                No brainer.

                Let the group vote. If they vote for everybody to attend, insist on some basic infection control stuff...

                1. Temp checks at the door.
                2. Social distancing, as much as possible.
                3. No buffet.
                4. Masking, as much as possible.
                5. Frequent hand sanitization.

                At this time next year, there exists a likelihood one of your class will be dead. How bad do y'all want to see each other?

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                  @Loki

                  Have you missed the part where Copper is a retired white collar worker that lived in the burbs before retiring? Have you missed the fact that he has been vaccinated?

                  Have you missed the part where Horace is a white collar worker living in an extremely urban area?

                  Have you missed the part where I would generally be considered white collar, live in the burbs, and am planning on being vaccinated as well?

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                  @lufins-dad said in Vaccination etiquette question:

                  @Loki

                  Have you missed the part where Copper is a retired white collar worker that lived in the burbs before retiring? Have you missed the fact that he has been vaccinated?

                  Have you missed the part where Horace is a white collar worker living in an extremely urban area?

                  Have you missed the part where I would generally be considered white collar, live in the burbs, and am planning on being vaccinated as well?

                  I see your point now. I wasn’t accusing anyone on this thread of such. I was saying that the party messaging on many topics is so out of touch it is being reflected in voting patterns and now even party identification.

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                    @lufins-dad said in Vaccination etiquette question:

                    @Loki

                    Have you missed the part where Copper is a retired white collar worker that lived in the burbs before retiring? Have you missed the fact that he has been vaccinated?

                    Have you missed the part where Horace is a white collar worker living in an extremely urban area?

                    Have you missed the part where I would generally be considered white collar, live in the burbs, and am planning on being vaccinated as well?

                    I see your point now. I wasn’t accusing anyone on this thread of such. I was saying that the party messaging on many topics is so out of touch it is being reflected in voting patterns and now even party identification.

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                    @loki Right now, I see very little masking in the rural areas and not much more in the city. Older folks do mask more, younger people almost none at all.

                    Either through infection, vaccination or just plain don't give a damn, people have voted with their feet to get on with life. They look at the numbers between open states and more restrictive states, and don't see the numbers that make sense to continue extraordinary measures.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      @loki Right now, I see very little masking in the rural areas and not much more in the city. Older folks do mask more, younger people almost none at all.

                      Either through infection, vaccination or just plain don't give a damn, people have voted with their feet to get on with life. They look at the numbers between open states and more restrictive states, and don't see the numbers that make sense to continue extraordinary measures.

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                      @jolly said in Vaccination etiquette question:

                      They look at the numbers between open states and more restrictive states, and don't see the numbers that make sense to continue extraordinary measures.

                      There are different "they"s. Some areas have more thoughtful communities than others.

                      Please love yourself.

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                        @jolly said in Vaccination etiquette question:

                        They look at the numbers between open states and more restrictive states, and don't see the numbers that make sense to continue extraordinary measures.

                        There are different "they"s. Some areas have more thoughtful communities than others.

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                        @aqua-letifer said in Vaccination etiquette question:

                        @jolly said in Vaccination etiquette question:

                        They look at the numbers between open states and more restrictive states, and don't see the numbers that make sense to continue extraordinary measures.

                        There are different "they"s. Some areas have more thoughtful communities than others.

                        Good. You live in the most thoughtful community of assholes in the world.😛

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          #39

                          You still see lots of masks here. Nobody goes into the supermarket without a mask on, and people wear them outside, which I generally don't bother with unless I'm likely to meet other people - the number of people around here who actually walk anywhere is vanishingly small (in numbers, not stature), so it typically isn't an issue.

                          I was only joking

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                          • JollyJ Jolly

                            @aqua-letifer said in Vaccination etiquette question:

                            @jolly said in Vaccination etiquette question:

                            They look at the numbers between open states and more restrictive states, and don't see the numbers that make sense to continue extraordinary measures.

                            There are different "they"s. Some areas have more thoughtful communities than others.

                            Good. You live in the most thoughtful community of assholes in the world.😛

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                            @jolly said in Vaccination etiquette question:

                            @aqua-letifer said in Vaccination etiquette question:

                            @jolly said in Vaccination etiquette question:

                            They look at the numbers between open states and more restrictive states, and don't see the numbers that make sense to continue extraordinary measures.

                            There are different "they"s. Some areas have more thoughtful communities than others.

                            Good. You live in the most thoughtful community of assholes in the world.😛

                            Not at all! I live in a very average community, mostly conservative-leaning. Masks here are about 50/50. In other areas outside of here, though, they're a lot more prevalent.

                            Please love yourself.

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                              Honestly if I’m vaccinated I don’t care if someone else is. It’s like...I’m wearing a seatbelt, if you don’t that’s on you. That being said, I think it’s reasonable to require vaccinations to attend.

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                                Right now with the variants, particularly P1, even if you are vaccinated it is best to to continue to follow the masking, social distancing and hand washing protocols. I wouldn't even consider attending any function at which there are more than a half dozen people. Even then it would have to be outdoors and no shared food or buffet.

                                Too many unknowns whirling about these current variants for my whole trust in the vaccine.

                                Elbows up!

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                                • 89th8 89th

                                  Honestly if I’m vaccinated I don’t care if someone else is. It’s like...I’m wearing a seatbelt, if you don’t that’s on you. That being said, I think it’s reasonable to require vaccinations to attend.

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                                  @89th said in Vaccination etiquette question:

                                  Honestly if I’m vaccinated I don’t care if someone else is. It’s like...I’m wearing a seatbelt, if you don’t that’s on you. That being said, I think it’s reasonable to require vaccinations to attend.

                                  The longer the virus is out there, the more mutations that will occur and increasing the chance that it will be deadlier and/or render your current vaccine very significantly less effective.

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                                    @89th said in Vaccination etiquette question:

                                    Honestly if I’m vaccinated I don’t care if someone else is. It’s like...I’m wearing a seatbelt, if you don’t that’s on you. That being said, I think it’s reasonable to require vaccinations to attend.

                                    The longer the virus is out there, the more mutations that will occur and increasing the chance that it will be deadlier and/or render your current vaccine very significantly less effective.

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                                    @loki said in Vaccination etiquette question:

                                    The longer the virus is out there, the more mutations that will occur and increasing the chance that it will be deadlier and/or render your current vaccine very significantly less effective.

                                    Good points. Beyond that there's also the whole, y'know, how much it would suck if someone more vulnerable were to get permanently fucked up or die because some unvaccinated jackass spread the disease around. Be kinda nice if there were some way that could be more or less prevented.

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                      And none of the vaccines are 100% effective.

                                      So, it makes sense that if everybody is vaccinated, then the chances of catching it are much much smaller.

                                      Every un- vaccinated person increases the odds of getting COVID by a little bit.

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                                      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                        And none of the vaccines are 100% effective.

                                        So, it makes sense that if everybody is vaccinated, then the chances of catching it are much much smaller.

                                        Every un- vaccinated person increases the odds of getting COVID by a little bit.

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                                        @taiwan_girl said in Vaccination etiquette question:

                                        Every un- vaccinated person increases the odds of getting COVID and making COVID worse on a global scale by a little bit.

                                        FIFY.

                                        Please love yourself.

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                                          The longer the virus is out there, the more mutations that will occur.

                                          Possible scenario: We have a case where the vaccine no longer can keep up. What will life look like?

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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