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  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

    I would think a ship like this would have pretty detailed navigating systems.

    The front of the ship starts to go off the correct line, the motors power one side or the other to correct for example

    It just surprises me that this would happen. For sure, someone who was steering messed up big time!

    Evergreen is a Taiwan company, and the headline in one of the papers yesterday was "National Embarrassing!"

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    @taiwan_girl said in Stuck:

    I would think a ship like this would have pretty detailed navigating systems.

    The front of the ship starts to go off the correct line, the motors power one side or the other to correct for example

    It just surprises me that this would happen. For sure, someone who was steering messed up big time!

    Evergreen is a Taiwan company, and the headline in one of the papers yesterday was "National Embarrassing!"

    The winds blew the stern of the ship off, not the bow.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      https://www.reuters.com/article/us-egypt-suezcanal-salvage/suez-ship-rescuers-weigh-time-and-tide-with-risk-of-tip-or-tear-idUSKBN2BI283

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        #34

        Good picture from that Reuters article. Look at all those containers

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        Only non-witches get due process.

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          Good picture from that Reuters article. Look at all those containers

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          @jon-nyc Ther's got to be what? 1800 on there? 2000? Those things weigh 4 tons empty...The ship itself is 200,000 tons. The max payload for most of those containers is 30 tons. Guess an average payload of 16 tons for shits and giggles... You're getting up close to 250,000 tons and that's a conservative guess.

          The Brad

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            I wonder how much that Captain makes a year and whether he feels it is worth it right now?

            The Brad

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            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

              I wonder how much that Captain makes a year and whether he feels it is worth it right now?

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              @lufins-dad said in Stuck:

              I wonder how much that Captain makes a year and whether he feels it is worth it right now?

              Look on the bright side, he's got a great story for his grandchildren.

              I was only joking

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                #38

                @lufins-dad

                It’s one of the largest container ships in the world.

                Its max capacity is 20,000 containers.

                Only non-witches get due process.

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                • MikM Offline
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                  Ive been looking for diagrams since I can’t figure out where the bridge is.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    @jon-nyc said in Stuck:

                    @lufins-dad

                    It’s one of the largest container ships in the world.

                    Its max capacity is 20,000 containers.

                    20,000 8’ by 40’? That’s what I based my guess on.

                    In that picture, l’m counting 9-10 rows high, 24 long, and 10 deep (give or take). I was figuring those to be the typical 8’ x 40’ giving a max of 2400. Obviously I am missing something...

                    The Brad

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                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                      @jon-nyc said in Stuck:

                      @lufins-dad

                      It’s one of the largest container ships in the world.

                      Its max capacity is 20,000 containers.

                      20,000 8’ by 40’? That’s what I based my guess on.

                      In that picture, l’m counting 9-10 rows high, 24 long, and 10 deep (give or take). I was figuring those to be the typical 8’ x 40’ giving a max of 2400. Obviously I am missing something...

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                      @lufins-dad said in Stuck:

                      @jon-nyc said in Stuck:

                      @lufins-dad

                      It’s one of the largest container ships in the world.

                      Its max capacity is 20,000 containers.

                      20,000 8’ by 40’? That’s what I based my guess on.

                      In that picture, l’m counting 9-10 rows high, 24 long, and 10 deep (give or take). I was figuring those to be the typical 8’ x 40’ giving a max of 2400. Obviously I am missing something...

                      Is this one at max capacity?

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                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                        @lufins-dad said in Stuck:

                        I wonder how much that Captain makes a year and whether he feels it is worth it right now?

                        Look on the bright side, he's got a great story for his grandchildren.

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                        @doctor-phibes said in Stuck:

                        Look on the bright side, he's got a great story for his grandchildren.

                        Once upon a time, the winds of fate blew me ship off and put it squarely on the “pause” button of global commerce ...

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                          Got me wonder how the Thunderbirds team would deal with something like this.

                          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderbirds_(TV_series)

                          Maybe they won’t at all, since no human life is at stake. :man-shrugging:

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                          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                            @jon-nyc said in Stuck:

                            @lufins-dad

                            It’s one of the largest container ships in the world.

                            Its max capacity is 20,000 containers.

                            20,000 8’ by 40’? That’s what I based my guess on.

                            In that picture, l’m counting 9-10 rows high, 24 long, and 10 deep (give or take). I was figuring those to be the typical 8’ x 40’ giving a max of 2400. Obviously I am missing something...

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                            @lufins-dad

                            I looked it up and it’s 20k TEU which is twenty foot equivalent units.

                            So it would hold 10k of the 40 ft units

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                              The truck commercials practically write themselves.

                              The Brad

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                              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                The truck commercials practically write themselves.

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                                @lufins-dad said in Stuck:

                                The truck commercials practically write themselves.

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                                  @lufins-dad said in Stuck:

                                  The truck commercials practically write themselves.

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                                  @89th

                                  Nahhh, just a commercial with some cowboy pulling up in a pickup truck, tying the ship to his tow hitch, and pulling the ship clear....

                                  The Brad

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                                      Big futhermucker.

                                      I wonder if they still think it might be cleared tomorrow or Monday.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        Part of the problem is that the captains are always under the gun of a tight schedule.

                                        My in-laws neighbor captains a container ship on the Houston-Antwerp-Houston run. A couple of years ago, he chose to throttle down and let a bad Atlantic storm go through, rather than risk his vessel and cargo.

                                        I don't know how much it cost the company, but he had to undergo a company review board over his actions and his command was on the line.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                          Speeding?

                                          Moments before it ran aground, the Ever Given was apparently travelling faster than a speed limit set by the Suez Canal Authority, Bloomberg reported.

                                          The Ever Given's last recorded speed was 13.5 knots, logged 12 minutes before it grounded, according to Bloomberg, which cited its own data. The maximum allowed speed through the canal was between 7.6 knots and 8.6 knots, the report said.

                                          The Japan Times also reported the ship was travelling 13.5 knots, adding that two canal pilots were onboard when the ship hit land.

                                          The Ever Given didn't have a tugboat escort through the canal, according to Bloomberg. The two ships immediately ahead of it reportedly had escorts, although such escorts were not required.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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