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  • J jon-nyc
    26 Mar 2021, 17:19

    Good picture from that Reuters article. Look at all those containers

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    LuFins Dad
    wrote on 26 Mar 2021, 17:45 last edited by
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    @jon-nyc Ther's got to be what? 1800 on there? 2000? Those things weigh 4 tons empty...The ship itself is 200,000 tons. The max payload for most of those containers is 30 tons. Guess an average payload of 16 tons for shits and giggles... You're getting up close to 250,000 tons and that's a conservative guess.

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      LuFins Dad
      wrote on 26 Mar 2021, 17:48 last edited by
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      I wonder how much that Captain makes a year and whether he feels it is worth it right now?

      The Brad

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        26 Mar 2021, 17:48

        I wonder how much that Captain makes a year and whether he feels it is worth it right now?

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        Doctor Phibes
        wrote on 26 Mar 2021, 17:49 last edited by Doctor Phibes
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        @lufins-dad said in Stuck:

        I wonder how much that Captain makes a year and whether he feels it is worth it right now?

        Look on the bright side, he's got a great story for his grandchildren.

        I was only joking

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 26 Mar 2021, 22:56 last edited by jon-nyc
          #38

          @lufins-dad

          It’s one of the largest container ships in the world.

          Its max capacity is 20,000 containers.

          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
          -Cormac McCarthy

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            Mik
            wrote on 26 Mar 2021, 23:10 last edited by
            #39

            Ive been looking for diagrams since I can’t figure out where the bridge is.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              LuFins Dad
              wrote on 26 Mar 2021, 23:33 last edited by
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              @jon-nyc said in Stuck:

              @lufins-dad

              It’s one of the largest container ships in the world.

              Its max capacity is 20,000 containers.

              20,000 8’ by 40’? That’s what I based my guess on.

              In that picture, l’m counting 9-10 rows high, 24 long, and 10 deep (give or take). I was figuring those to be the typical 8’ x 40’ giving a max of 2400. Obviously I am missing something...

              The Brad

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              • L LuFins Dad
                26 Mar 2021, 23:33

                @jon-nyc said in Stuck:

                @lufins-dad

                It’s one of the largest container ships in the world.

                Its max capacity is 20,000 containers.

                20,000 8’ by 40’? That’s what I based my guess on.

                In that picture, l’m counting 9-10 rows high, 24 long, and 10 deep (give or take). I was figuring those to be the typical 8’ x 40’ giving a max of 2400. Obviously I am missing something...

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                Copper
                wrote on 27 Mar 2021, 00:05 last edited by
                #41

                @lufins-dad said in Stuck:

                @jon-nyc said in Stuck:

                @lufins-dad

                It’s one of the largest container ships in the world.

                Its max capacity is 20,000 containers.

                20,000 8’ by 40’? That’s what I based my guess on.

                In that picture, l’m counting 9-10 rows high, 24 long, and 10 deep (give or take). I was figuring those to be the typical 8’ x 40’ giving a max of 2400. Obviously I am missing something...

                Is this one at max capacity?

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                • D Doctor Phibes
                  26 Mar 2021, 17:49

                  @lufins-dad said in Stuck:

                  I wonder how much that Captain makes a year and whether he feels it is worth it right now?

                  Look on the bright side, he's got a great story for his grandchildren.

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                  Axtremus
                  wrote on 27 Mar 2021, 00:06 last edited by
                  #42

                  @doctor-phibes said in Stuck:

                  Look on the bright side, he's got a great story for his grandchildren.

                  Once upon a time, the winds of fate blew me ship off and put it squarely on the “pause” button of global commerce ...

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                    Axtremus
                    wrote on 27 Mar 2021, 00:09 last edited by
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                    Got me wonder how the Thunderbirds team would deal with something like this.

                    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderbirds_(TV_series)

                    Maybe they won’t at all, since no human life is at stake. :man-shrugging:

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                    • L LuFins Dad
                      26 Mar 2021, 23:33

                      @jon-nyc said in Stuck:

                      @lufins-dad

                      It’s one of the largest container ships in the world.

                      Its max capacity is 20,000 containers.

                      20,000 8’ by 40’? That’s what I based my guess on.

                      In that picture, l’m counting 9-10 rows high, 24 long, and 10 deep (give or take). I was figuring those to be the typical 8’ x 40’ giving a max of 2400. Obviously I am missing something...

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on 27 Mar 2021, 00:30 last edited by
                      #44

                      @lufins-dad

                      I looked it up and it’s 20k TEU which is twenty foot equivalent units.

                      So it would hold 10k of the 40 ft units

                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                        LuFins Dad
                        wrote on 27 Mar 2021, 13:56 last edited by
                        #45

                        The truck commercials practically write themselves.

                        The Brad

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                        • L LuFins Dad
                          27 Mar 2021, 13:56

                          The truck commercials practically write themselves.

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                          89th
                          wrote on 27 Mar 2021, 14:30 last edited by
                          #46

                          @lufins-dad said in Stuck:

                          The truck commercials practically write themselves.

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                            27 Mar 2021, 14:30

                            @lufins-dad said in Stuck:

                            The truck commercials practically write themselves.

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                            LuFins Dad
                            wrote on 27 Mar 2021, 14:36 last edited by
                            #47

                            @89th

                            Nahhh, just a commercial with some cowboy pulling up in a pickup truck, tying the ship to his tow hitch, and pulling the ship clear....

                            The Brad

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                              89th
                              wrote on 27 Mar 2021, 18:12 last edited by
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                                Mik
                                wrote on 27 Mar 2021, 19:10 last edited by
                                #49

                                Big futhermucker.

                                I wonder if they still think it might be cleared tomorrow or Monday.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on 27 Mar 2021, 21:31 last edited by
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                                  Part of the problem is that the captains are always under the gun of a tight schedule.

                                  My in-laws neighbor captains a container ship on the Houston-Antwerp-Houston run. A couple of years ago, he chose to throttle down and let a bad Atlantic storm go through, rather than risk his vessel and cargo.

                                  I don't know how much it cost the company, but he had to undergo a company review board over his actions and his command was on the line.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 28 Mar 2021, 00:21 last edited by
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                                    Speeding?

                                    Moments before it ran aground, the Ever Given was apparently travelling faster than a speed limit set by the Suez Canal Authority, Bloomberg reported.

                                    The Ever Given's last recorded speed was 13.5 knots, logged 12 minutes before it grounded, according to Bloomberg, which cited its own data. The maximum allowed speed through the canal was between 7.6 knots and 8.6 knots, the report said.

                                    The Japan Times also reported the ship was travelling 13.5 knots, adding that two canal pilots were onboard when the ship hit land.

                                    The Ever Given didn't have a tugboat escort through the canal, according to Bloomberg. The two ships immediately ahead of it reportedly had escorts, although such escorts were not required.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      LuFins Dad
                                      wrote on 28 Mar 2021, 00:31 last edited by
                                      #52

                                      Could they have been trying to beat the storm?

                                      The Brad

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                                      • L LuFins Dad
                                        28 Mar 2021, 00:31

                                        Could they have been trying to beat the storm?

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                                        Aqua Letifer
                                        wrote on 28 Mar 2021, 00:38 last edited by
                                        #53

                                        @lufins-dad said in Stuck:

                                        Could they have been trying to beat the storm?

                                        Or their timetable.

                                        Please love yourself.

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                                        • A Aqua Letifer
                                          28 Mar 2021, 00:38

                                          @lufins-dad said in Stuck:

                                          Could they have been trying to beat the storm?

                                          Or their timetable.

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                                          LuFins Dad
                                          wrote on 28 Mar 2021, 01:02 last edited by
                                          #54

                                          @aqua-letifer said in Stuck:

                                          @lufins-dad said in Stuck:

                                          Could they have been trying to beat the storm?

                                          Or their timetable.

                                          I don’t really think so. There were Canal pilots on board not beholden to Evergreen. They weren’t speeding through the canal without those pilots approval. I’m an optimist. I think they were trying to keep something bad from happening and ran out of time. There’s not always a villain.

                                          The Brad

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