Tell me, again, where "Democracy dies."
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@horace said in Tell me, again, where "Democracy dies.":
I am aware of exactly zero anti-Trumpers who ever cared whether he was maliciously lied about. I am also aware of exactly zero anti-Trumpers who would admit to that fact. One must keep up appearances, after all. Their facade of virtue is totally fooling everybody, just ask them.
I'm what you would call an anti-Trumper, and I also think the media treated him unfairly. I actually think what the US media did was terrible. I've stopped listening to NPR, pretty much the only US media I could stomach, because they are horribly biased. In some ways they're worse than CNN because quite a few of them appear to honestly believe they're being objective.
The US media bias tended to have two effects - it cemented the people who didn't like Trump even more securely in that camp, and it also made his supporters rally around even more, even when he behaved very poorly, which he frequently did, so it was counter-productive in that regard. So, now the country is even more divided.
Trump's still an asshole, of course.
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@doctor-phibes said in Tell me, again, where "Democracy dies.":
I'm what you would call an anti-Trumper, and I also think the media treated him unfairly. I actually think what the US media did was terrible. I've stopped listening to NPR, pretty much the only US media I could stomach, because they are horribly biased. In some ways they're worse than CNN because quite a few of them appear to honestly believe they're being objective.
The US media bias tended to have two effects - it cemented the people who didn't like Trump even more securely in that camp, and it also made his supporters rally around even more, even when he behaved very poorly, which he frequently did, so it was counter-productive in that regard. So, now the country is even more divided.
Trump's still an asshole, of course.
Well put.
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@doctor-phibes said in Tell me, again, where "Democracy dies.":
@horace said in Tell me, again, where "Democracy dies.":
I am aware of exactly zero anti-Trumpers who ever cared whether he was maliciously lied about. I am also aware of exactly zero anti-Trumpers who would admit to that fact. One must keep up appearances, after all. Their facade of virtue is totally fooling everybody, just ask them.
I'm what you would call an anti-Trumper, and I also think the media treated him unfairly. I actually think what the US media did was terrible. I've stopped listening to NPR, pretty much the only US media I could stomach, because they are horribly biased. In some ways they're worse than CNN because quite a few of them appear to honestly believe they're being objective.
The US media bias tended to have two effects - it cemented the people who didn't like Trump even more securely in that camp, and it also made his supporters rally around even more, even when he behaved very poorly, which he frequently did, so it was counter-productive in that regard. So, now the country is even more divided.
Trump's still an asshole, of course.
Write it down.
I agree completely.
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@jolly said in Tell me, again, where "Democracy dies.":
@doctor-phibes said in Tell me, again, where "Democracy dies.":
@horace said in Tell me, again, where "Democracy dies.":
I am aware of exactly zero anti-Trumpers who ever cared whether he was maliciously lied about. I am also aware of exactly zero anti-Trumpers who would admit to that fact. One must keep up appearances, after all. Their facade of virtue is totally fooling everybody, just ask them.
I'm what you would call an anti-Trumper, and I also think the media treated him unfairly. I actually think what the US media did was terrible. I've stopped listening to NPR, pretty much the only US media I could stomach, because they are horribly biased. In some ways they're worse than CNN because quite a few of them appear to honestly believe they're being objective.
The US media bias tended to have two effects - it cemented the people who didn't like Trump even more securely in that camp, and it also made his supporters rally around even more, even when he behaved very poorly, which he frequently did, so it was counter-productive in that regard. So, now the country is even more divided.
Trump's still an asshole, of course.
Write it down.
I agree completely.
I have no problem with Trump being taken down for what he did, in fact I will say it is a good thing. I am disgusted that others in Congress and the Media didn’t as well. The hypocrisy is so obvious and they know it and snicker, which shows that they truly believe the ends justify the means.
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@doctor-phibes said in Tell me, again, where "Democracy dies.":
@horace said in Tell me, again, where "Democracy dies.":
I am aware of exactly zero anti-Trumpers who ever cared whether he was maliciously lied about. I am also aware of exactly zero anti-Trumpers who would admit to that fact. One must keep up appearances, after all. Their facade of virtue is totally fooling everybody, just ask them.
I'm what you would call an anti-Trumper, and I also think the media treated him unfairly. I actually think what the US media did was terrible. I've stopped listening to NPR, pretty much the only US media I could stomach, because they are horribly biased. In some ways they're worse than CNN because quite a few of them appear to honestly believe they're being objective.
The US media bias tended to have two effects - it cemented the people who didn't like Trump even more securely in that camp, and it also made his supporters rally around even more, even when he behaved very poorly, which he frequently did, so it was counter-productive in that regard. So, now the country is even more divided.
Trump's still an asshole, of course.
Yep, well put.
