Tell me, again, where "Democracy dies."
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And, I just came across this. The Democrats used this "Fake News" (can I say that now?) story in the articles of impeachment:
@george-k said in Tell me, again, where "Democracy dies.":
And, I just came across this. The Democrats used this "Fake News" (can I say that now?) story in the articles of impeachment:
I realize impeachment is a political event, but the Articles ought to at least be based on facts. Of course, there were hot lies in the first Articles.
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I am aware of exactly zero anti-Trumpers who ever cared whether he was maliciously lied about. I am also aware of exactly zero anti-Trumpers who would admit to that fact. One must keep up appearances, after all. Their facade of virtue is totally fooling everybody, just ask them.
Education is extremely important.
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I did not read the original story, but I do not think it is uncommon for a news article to say something like, "according to sources, XXX happened......"
Maybe Aqua can comment if in journalism class, they tell you to have two sources to confirm information. Seems like it should have certainly been done here.
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I did not read the original story, but I do not think it is uncommon for a news article to say something like, "according to sources, XXX happened......"
Maybe Aqua can comment if in journalism class, they tell you to have two sources to confirm information. Seems like it should have certainly been done here.
@taiwan_girl said in Tell me, again, where "Democracy dies.":
"according to sources, XXX happened......"
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I did not read the original story, but I do not think it is uncommon for a news article to say something like, "according to sources, XXX happened......"
Maybe Aqua can comment if in journalism class, they tell you to have two sources to confirm information. Seems like it should have certainly been done here.
@taiwan_girl said in Tell me, again, where "Democracy dies.":
I did not read the original story, but I do not think it is uncommon for a news article to say something like, "according to sources, XXX happened......"
Maybe Aqua can comment if in journalism class, they tell you to have two sources to confirm information. Seems like it should have certainly been done here.
When I was in journalism school they taught me that if you can't confirm it you can't print it. That hasn't been the case anymore for many years.
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I am aware of exactly zero anti-Trumpers who ever cared whether he was maliciously lied about. I am also aware of exactly zero anti-Trumpers who would admit to that fact. One must keep up appearances, after all. Their facade of virtue is totally fooling everybody, just ask them.
@horace said in Tell me, again, where "Democracy dies.":
I am aware of exactly zero anti-Trumpers who ever cared whether he was maliciously lied about. I am also aware of exactly zero anti-Trumpers who would admit to that fact. One must keep up appearances, after all. Their facade of virtue is totally fooling everybody, just ask them.
I became convinced after the Russia! hoax, when it was well known it was a fake created on a bed of lies in a FISA court, that fairness, due process and rule of law had been thrown out the window in a single-minded pursuit of power and ideology.
People were willing to prostitute their souls, Because Trump.
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I am aware of exactly zero anti-Trumpers who ever cared whether he was maliciously lied about. I am also aware of exactly zero anti-Trumpers who would admit to that fact. One must keep up appearances, after all. Their facade of virtue is totally fooling everybody, just ask them.
@horace said in Tell me, again, where "Democracy dies.":
I am aware of exactly zero anti-Trumpers who ever cared whether he was maliciously lied about. I am also aware of exactly zero anti-Trumpers who would admit to that fact. One must keep up appearances, after all. Their facade of virtue is totally fooling everybody, just ask them.
I'm what you would call an anti-Trumper, and I also think the media treated him unfairly. I actually think what the US media did was terrible. I've stopped listening to NPR, pretty much the only US media I could stomach, because they are horribly biased. In some ways they're worse than CNN because quite a few of them appear to honestly believe they're being objective.
The US media bias tended to have two effects - it cemented the people who didn't like Trump even more securely in that camp, and it also made his supporters rally around even more, even when he behaved very poorly, which he frequently did, so it was counter-productive in that regard. So, now the country is even more divided.
Trump's still an asshole, of course.
I was only joking
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@horace said in Tell me, again, where "Democracy dies.":
I am aware of exactly zero anti-Trumpers who ever cared whether he was maliciously lied about. I am also aware of exactly zero anti-Trumpers who would admit to that fact. One must keep up appearances, after all. Their facade of virtue is totally fooling everybody, just ask them.
I'm what you would call an anti-Trumper, and I also think the media treated him unfairly. I actually think what the US media did was terrible. I've stopped listening to NPR, pretty much the only US media I could stomach, because they are horribly biased. In some ways they're worse than CNN because quite a few of them appear to honestly believe they're being objective.
The US media bias tended to have two effects - it cemented the people who didn't like Trump even more securely in that camp, and it also made his supporters rally around even more, even when he behaved very poorly, which he frequently did, so it was counter-productive in that regard. So, now the country is even more divided.
Trump's still an asshole, of course.
@doctor-phibes said in Tell me, again, where "Democracy dies.":
I'm what you would call an anti-Trumper, and I also think the media treated him unfairly. I actually think what the US media did was terrible. I've stopped listening to NPR, pretty much the only US media I could stomach, because they are horribly biased. In some ways they're worse than CNN because quite a few of them appear to honestly believe they're being objective.
The US media bias tended to have two effects - it cemented the people who didn't like Trump even more securely in that camp, and it also made his supporters rally around even more, even when he behaved very poorly, which he frequently did, so it was counter-productive in that regard. So, now the country is even more divided.
Trump's still an asshole, of course.
Well put.
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@horace said in Tell me, again, where "Democracy dies.":
I am aware of exactly zero anti-Trumpers who ever cared whether he was maliciously lied about. I am also aware of exactly zero anti-Trumpers who would admit to that fact. One must keep up appearances, after all. Their facade of virtue is totally fooling everybody, just ask them.
I'm what you would call an anti-Trumper, and I also think the media treated him unfairly. I actually think what the US media did was terrible. I've stopped listening to NPR, pretty much the only US media I could stomach, because they are horribly biased. In some ways they're worse than CNN because quite a few of them appear to honestly believe they're being objective.
The US media bias tended to have two effects - it cemented the people who didn't like Trump even more securely in that camp, and it also made his supporters rally around even more, even when he behaved very poorly, which he frequently did, so it was counter-productive in that regard. So, now the country is even more divided.
Trump's still an asshole, of course.
@doctor-phibes said in Tell me, again, where "Democracy dies.":
@horace said in Tell me, again, where "Democracy dies.":
I am aware of exactly zero anti-Trumpers who ever cared whether he was maliciously lied about. I am also aware of exactly zero anti-Trumpers who would admit to that fact. One must keep up appearances, after all. Their facade of virtue is totally fooling everybody, just ask them.
I'm what you would call an anti-Trumper, and I also think the media treated him unfairly. I actually think what the US media did was terrible. I've stopped listening to NPR, pretty much the only US media I could stomach, because they are horribly biased. In some ways they're worse than CNN because quite a few of them appear to honestly believe they're being objective.
The US media bias tended to have two effects - it cemented the people who didn't like Trump even more securely in that camp, and it also made his supporters rally around even more, even when he behaved very poorly, which he frequently did, so it was counter-productive in that regard. So, now the country is even more divided.
Trump's still an asshole, of course.
Write it down.
I agree completely.
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@doctor-phibes said in Tell me, again, where "Democracy dies.":
@horace said in Tell me, again, where "Democracy dies.":
I am aware of exactly zero anti-Trumpers who ever cared whether he was maliciously lied about. I am also aware of exactly zero anti-Trumpers who would admit to that fact. One must keep up appearances, after all. Their facade of virtue is totally fooling everybody, just ask them.
I'm what you would call an anti-Trumper, and I also think the media treated him unfairly. I actually think what the US media did was terrible. I've stopped listening to NPR, pretty much the only US media I could stomach, because they are horribly biased. In some ways they're worse than CNN because quite a few of them appear to honestly believe they're being objective.
The US media bias tended to have two effects - it cemented the people who didn't like Trump even more securely in that camp, and it also made his supporters rally around even more, even when he behaved very poorly, which he frequently did, so it was counter-productive in that regard. So, now the country is even more divided.
Trump's still an asshole, of course.
Write it down.
I agree completely.
@jolly said in Tell me, again, where "Democracy dies.":
@doctor-phibes said in Tell me, again, where "Democracy dies.":
@horace said in Tell me, again, where "Democracy dies.":
I am aware of exactly zero anti-Trumpers who ever cared whether he was maliciously lied about. I am also aware of exactly zero anti-Trumpers who would admit to that fact. One must keep up appearances, after all. Their facade of virtue is totally fooling everybody, just ask them.
I'm what you would call an anti-Trumper, and I also think the media treated him unfairly. I actually think what the US media did was terrible. I've stopped listening to NPR, pretty much the only US media I could stomach, because they are horribly biased. In some ways they're worse than CNN because quite a few of them appear to honestly believe they're being objective.
The US media bias tended to have two effects - it cemented the people who didn't like Trump even more securely in that camp, and it also made his supporters rally around even more, even when he behaved very poorly, which he frequently did, so it was counter-productive in that regard. So, now the country is even more divided.
Trump's still an asshole, of course.
Write it down.
I agree completely.
I have no problem with Trump being taken down for what he did, in fact I will say it is a good thing. I am disgusted that others in Congress and the Media didn’t as well. The hypocrisy is so obvious and they know it and snicker, which shows that they truly believe the ends justify the means.
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@horace said in Tell me, again, where "Democracy dies.":
I am aware of exactly zero anti-Trumpers who ever cared whether he was maliciously lied about. I am also aware of exactly zero anti-Trumpers who would admit to that fact. One must keep up appearances, after all. Their facade of virtue is totally fooling everybody, just ask them.
I'm what you would call an anti-Trumper, and I also think the media treated him unfairly. I actually think what the US media did was terrible. I've stopped listening to NPR, pretty much the only US media I could stomach, because they are horribly biased. In some ways they're worse than CNN because quite a few of them appear to honestly believe they're being objective.
The US media bias tended to have two effects - it cemented the people who didn't like Trump even more securely in that camp, and it also made his supporters rally around even more, even when he behaved very poorly, which he frequently did, so it was counter-productive in that regard. So, now the country is even more divided.
Trump's still an asshole, of course.
@doctor-phibes said in Tell me, again, where "Democracy dies.":
@horace said in Tell me, again, where "Democracy dies.":
I am aware of exactly zero anti-Trumpers who ever cared whether he was maliciously lied about. I am also aware of exactly zero anti-Trumpers who would admit to that fact. One must keep up appearances, after all. Their facade of virtue is totally fooling everybody, just ask them.
I'm what you would call an anti-Trumper, and I also think the media treated him unfairly. I actually think what the US media did was terrible. I've stopped listening to NPR, pretty much the only US media I could stomach, because they are horribly biased. In some ways they're worse than CNN because quite a few of them appear to honestly believe they're being objective.
The US media bias tended to have two effects - it cemented the people who didn't like Trump even more securely in that camp, and it also made his supporters rally around even more, even when he behaved very poorly, which he frequently did, so it was counter-productive in that regard. So, now the country is even more divided.
Trump's still an asshole, of course.
Yep, well put.
