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  • J Jolly
    13 Mar 2021, 04:02

    Finance for thirty if you wish, but pay it off before then. There are several schemes to do so and I highly recommend it.

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    89th
    wrote on 13 Mar 2021, 04:24 last edited by
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    @jolly said in Mortgage Questions:

    Finance for thirty if you wish, but pay it off before then. There are several schemes to do so and I highly recommend it.

    Agreed, I still hesitate with giving too many personal details but yeah... our plan is to pay it off in 10-15 years. I know financial planners would say "Pay the 3% interest and make 5-10% in the stock market!" but I'm a simpleton and would enjoy not having debt.

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    • 8 89th
      13 Mar 2021, 04:24

      @jolly said in Mortgage Questions:

      Finance for thirty if you wish, but pay it off before then. There are several schemes to do so and I highly recommend it.

      Agreed, I still hesitate with giving too many personal details but yeah... our plan is to pay it off in 10-15 years. I know financial planners would say "Pay the 3% interest and make 5-10% in the stock market!" but I'm a simpleton and would enjoy not having debt.

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      LuFins Dad
      wrote on 13 Mar 2021, 05:14 last edited by
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      @89th said in Mortgage Questions:

      @jolly said in Mortgage Questions:

      Finance for thirty if you wish, but pay it off before then. There are several schemes to do so and I highly recommend it.

      Agreed, I still hesitate with giving too many personal details but yeah... our plan is to pay it off in 10-15 years. I know financial planners would say "Pay the 3% interest and make 5-10% in the stock market!" but I'm a simpleton and would enjoy not having debt.

      I get that philosophy, but that comes from a day when interest rates were 11-12% (and higher, my parents mortgage in the early 80s was at 16%). Recouping 11-12% in the stock market carries a fair amount of risk so paying off early makes a ton more sense... But 3%? You can get high yield bonds that pay off higher...

      The Brad

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      • 8 89th
        13 Mar 2021, 04:24

        @jolly said in Mortgage Questions:

        Finance for thirty if you wish, but pay it off before then. There are several schemes to do so and I highly recommend it.

        Agreed, I still hesitate with giving too many personal details but yeah... our plan is to pay it off in 10-15 years. I know financial planners would say "Pay the 3% interest and make 5-10% in the stock market!" but I'm a simpleton and would enjoy not having debt.

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        Mik
        wrote on 13 Mar 2021, 12:44 last edited by
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        @89th said in Mortgage Questions:

        @jolly said in Mortgage Questions:

        Finance for thirty if you wish, but pay it off before then. There are several schemes to do so and I highly recommend it.

        Agreed, I still hesitate with giving too many personal details but yeah... our plan is to pay it off in 10-15 years. I know financial planners would say "Pay the 3% interest and make 5-10% in the stock market!" but I'm a simpleton and would enjoy not having debt.

        You are in good company, 89th. No debt gives you a lot more choices as to how to live, what you have to do workwise, all that. Making that small extra payment against principal makes a huge difference.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          LuFins Dad
          wrote on 13 Mar 2021, 13:07 last edited by
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          @89th the big question is how close to Darwin will you be?

          https://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/2128

          The Brad

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          • 8 89th
            13 Mar 2021, 04:24

            @jolly said in Mortgage Questions:

            Finance for thirty if you wish, but pay it off before then. There are several schemes to do so and I highly recommend it.

            Agreed, I still hesitate with giving too many personal details but yeah... our plan is to pay it off in 10-15 years. I know financial planners would say "Pay the 3% interest and make 5-10% in the stock market!" but I'm a simpleton and would enjoy not having debt.

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            xenon
            wrote on 13 Mar 2021, 14:29 last edited by
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            @89th said in Mortgage Questions:

            @jolly said in Mortgage Questions:

            Finance for thirty if you wish, but pay it off before then. There are several schemes to do so and I highly recommend it.

            Agreed, I still hesitate with giving too many personal details but yeah... our plan is to pay it off in 10-15 years. I know financial planners would say "Pay the 3% interest and make 5-10% in the stock market!" but I'm a simpleton and would enjoy not having debt.

            I get you as well 89. Though if you’re locked at 3% and inflation goes up in the future - you should let inflation do work on your debt.

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              taiwan_girl
              wrote on 13 Mar 2021, 17:13 last edited by
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              I dont know much to add, but is it possible to get a 20 or 15 year loan? It will be more expensive at first, but (hopefully) your income will increase while the house payment stays the same. I think there is a big savings with the short loan.

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              • T taiwan_girl
                13 Mar 2021, 17:13

                I dont know much to add, but is it possible to get a 20 or 15 year loan? It will be more expensive at first, but (hopefully) your income will increase while the house payment stays the same. I think there is a big savings with the short loan.

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                89th
                wrote on 14 Mar 2021, 04:16 last edited by
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                @taiwan_girl said in Mortgage Questions:

                I dont know much to add, but is it possible to get a 20 or 15 year loan? It will be more expensive at first, but (hopefully) your income will increase while the house payment stays the same. I think there is a big savings with the short loan.

                Yes there are 15-year loans, which we were considering. But we want to get a lake house (cabin) soon too, and with my wife not working at first, we wanted the flexibility of having a lower payment with the 30-year mortgage, and can always pay extra each month if we want.

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                  89th
                  wrote on 18 Mar 2021, 03:09 last edited by
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                  An update for those who care:

                  Ended up going with Wyndham Capital, mainly because they were pretty responsive when I had questions and others were a little slow on the response. I also had 3 lenders competing as I used one Loan Estimate against the next, when they would ask how I got a rate so low.

                  My initial lender said 30-year fixed conventional are averaging around 3.15% right now, but I was able to lock in at 2.75% with very minimal fees, so I'm happy. He wasn't able to match it, so I had to part ways... #sorrynotsorry

                  Here's hoping there are no hiccups during underwriting or whatever happens between now and closing.

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                    Axtremus
                    wrote on 18 Mar 2021, 03:26 last edited by
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                    Assuming you already locked in the rate, and from the other thread it looks like you will close well within 30 days, I think you’ll be fine. Congratulations!

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                      brenda
                      wrote on 18 Mar 2021, 03:34 last edited by
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                      That's excellent, 89th! Good job!

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                        Friday
                        wrote on 18 Mar 2021, 07:46 last edited by
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                        Make sure you get a comfortable pen to write with. You will be signing/initialing a lot of papers.

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                          Mik
                          wrote on 18 Mar 2021, 12:20 last edited by
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                          That's an outstanding 30 year rate. Well done.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • M Mik
                            18 Mar 2021, 12:20

                            That's an outstanding 30 year rate. Well done.

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                            George K
                            wrote on 18 Mar 2021, 12:28 last edited by
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                            @mik said in Mortgage Questions:

                            That's an outstanding 30 year rate. Well done.

                            Indeed. Now do this: Make one extra payment per year and your 30 year mortgage becomes an 18 year mortgage.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              Mik
                              wrote on 18 Mar 2021, 12:46 last edited by
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                              And make it as early in the mortgage year as you can.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • F Friday
                                18 Mar 2021, 07:46

                                Make sure you get a comfortable pen to write with. You will be signing/initialing a lot of papers.

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                                Jolly
                                wrote on 18 Mar 2021, 13:14 last edited by
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                                @friday said in Mortgage Questions:

                                Make sure you get a comfortable pen to write with. You will be signing/initialing a lot of papers.

                                Amen.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 18 Mar 2021, 13:21 last edited by
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                                  And make each signature look just a bit different.

                                  Plausible deniability, etc....

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • G George K
                                    18 Mar 2021, 13:21

                                    And make each signature look just a bit different.

                                    Plausible deniability, etc....

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                                    89th
                                    wrote on 18 Mar 2021, 15:36 last edited by
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                                    @george-k said in Mortgage Questions:

                                    And make each signature look just a bit different.

                                    Plausible deniability, etc....

                                    LOL!

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                                    • F Friday
                                      18 Mar 2021, 07:46

                                      Make sure you get a comfortable pen to write with. You will be signing/initialing a lot of papers.

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                                      89th
                                      wrote on 18 Mar 2021, 15:37 last edited by
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                                      @friday said in Mortgage Questions:

                                      Make sure you get a comfortable pen to write with. You will be signing/initialing a lot of papers.

                                      At closing? Maybe! But what's been funny so far... the entire process has used electronic signatures and initials. Realtor, purchase agreements, loan estimates, etc. ALL electronic. Way different than in 2009 when I bought my condo...where it took a billion signatures/initials!

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                                        Axtremus
                                        wrote on 18 Mar 2021, 16:38 last edited by
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                                        Real-estate brokerages may be fine with digital signatures, but state laws may still require real signatures signed in the presence of a public notary when it comes to deeds and liens. The paperwork you sign at closing is oriented towards formalizing who holds the deed and the lien.

                                        Expect to get paper copies of things you sign, and be sure to keep the paper copies with original signatures.

                                        Good luck!

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