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  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

    About PA and about numbers without context.

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    George KG Offline
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    #72

    @LuFins-Dad said in NYC is ground zero:

    About PA and about numbers without context.

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    Illinois is not very different.

    Illinois has 48,102 cases.

    Chicago alone has 33,449.

    Source: https://chicagovirus.com

    I'm sure the same case can be made for upstate and western New York.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      #73

      The virus tends to spread in humans so the case count is higher where more humans live.

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        The virus tends to spread in humans so the case count is higher where more humans live.

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        #74

        @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

        The virus tends to spread in humans so the case count is higher where more humans live.

        Yeah. Funny, that, eh?

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          The virus tends to spread in humans so the case count is higher where more humans live.

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          #75

          @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

          The virus tends to spread in humans so the case count is higher where more humans live.

          Yeah, but that’s nowhere near proportional in Pennsylvania.

          The Brad

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            #76

            You would expect convexity. The reproductive rate would have a non-linear relationship with density.

            Only non-witches get due process.

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              The virus tends to spread in humans so the case count is higher where more humans live.

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              #77

              @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

              The virus tends to spread in humans so the case count is higher where more humans live.

              that's what the per-capita brigade would have us believe.

              Education is extremely important.

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                #78

                I’m a brevet colonel in the per-capita brigade.

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  The virus tends to spread in humans so the case count is higher where more humans live.

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                  #79

                  @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                  The virus tends to spread in humans so the case count is higher where more humans live.

                  Is anything known about whether it spreads via animals, too?

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                    #80

                    Animals have caught it. Imagine they could spread it too. But I haven’t heard anything specific.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      Animals have caught it. Imagine they could spread it too. But I haven’t heard anything specific.

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                      @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                      Animals have caught it. Imagine they could spread it too. But I haven’t heard anything specific.

                      Coronavirus is very common in cats (though not this particular strain). One of the scary things is that it is usually a nothingburger, but sometimes it mutates causing Feline Infectious Peritonitis. A particularly nasty disease that is usually fatal.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        This particular virus has infected large cats and domestic cats.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          This particular virus has infected large cats and domestic cats.

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                          #83

                          @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                          This particular virus has infected large cats and domestic cats.

                          Yup and at least one dog.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • KlausK Klaus

                            @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                            The virus tends to spread in humans so the case count is higher where more humans live.

                            Is anything known about whether it spreads via animals, too?

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                            #84

                            @Klaus said in NYC is ground zero:

                            @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                            The virus tends to spread in humans so the case count is higher where more humans live.

                            Is anything known about whether it spreads via animals, too?

                            Yes. Several pets have gotten it, presumably from their owners. Indoor cats have gotten it. Dogs, too, have tested positive.
                            https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/daily-life-coping/animals.html

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                            • brendaB brenda

                              @Klaus said in NYC is ground zero:

                              @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                              The virus tends to spread in humans so the case count is higher where more humans live.

                              Is anything known about whether it spreads via animals, too?

                              Yes. Several pets have gotten it, presumably from their owners. Indoor cats have gotten it. Dogs, too, have tested positive.
                              https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/daily-life-coping/animals.html

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                              @brenda said in NYC is ground zero:

                              @Klaus said in NYC is ground zero:

                              @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                              The virus tends to spread in humans so the case count is higher where more humans live.

                              Is anything known about whether it spreads via animals, too?

                              Yes. Several pets have gotten it, presumably from their owners. Indoor cats have gotten it. Dogs, too, have tested positive.
                              https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/daily-life-coping/animals.html

                              Tigers are getting it, and some have died.

                              https://api-nationalgeographic-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/api.nationalgeographic.com/distribution/public/amp/animals/2020/04/tiger-coronavirus-covid19-positive-test-bronx-zoo?amp_js_v=a3&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQIKAGwASDAAQE%3D#aoh=15881728578968&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From %251%24s

                              https://www-chicagotribune-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/sns-nyt-coronavirus-threatens-indias-tiger-population-20200423-dndxj62njvai7f2davsv6zek6a-story.html?amp_js_v=a3&amp_gsa=1&outputType=amp&usqp=mq331AQIKAGwASDAAQE%3D#aoh=15881729629981&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From %251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.chicagotribune.com%2Fcoronavirus%2Fsns-nyt-coronavirus-threatens-indias-tiger-population-20200423-dndxj62njvai7f2davsv6zek6a-story.html

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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                                NYS - 288,045
                                NYC - 158,258 2,6% increase
                                NJ - 109,038
                                MA - 54,938 - up 9.2%
                                IL - 43,903 - up 5.2%
                                CA - 42,952
                                PA - 42,616
                                MI - 37,588
                                Nassau - 34,522
                                Suffolk - 32,059

                                FL - 31,532
                                Cook - 30,574 - up 5.2%
                                Westchester - 27,644 up 1.9%

                                LA - 26,773
                                CT - 24,750

                                NYS - 295,106
                                NYC - 162,338 up 1.3%
                                NJ - 113,856
                                MA - 58,302 - up 3%
                                IL - 48,102 - up 4.7%
                                CA - 46,033 - up 3.5%
                                PA - 45,137
                                MI - 39,262
                                Nassau - 35,085
                                Cook - 33,449 - up 4.6%

                                FL - 32,848
                                Suffolk - 32,724
                                Westchester - 28,245 up 1.1%

                                LA - 27,286
                                CT - 26,312 - up 3.1%

                                IL is a hot spot (relatively). Cook county overtook Suffolk county and the state of Florida. Florida took over Suffolk. Everything not listed grew by less than 3%

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                                @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                                NYS - 295,106
                                NYC - 162,338 up 1.3%
                                NJ - 113,856
                                MA - 58,302 - up 3%
                                IL - 48,102 - up 4.7%
                                CA - 46,033 - up 3.5%
                                PA - 45,137
                                MI - 39,262
                                Nassau - 35,085
                                Cook - 33,449 - up 4.6%

                                FL - 32,848
                                Suffolk - 32,724
                                Westchester - 28,245 up 1.1%

                                LA - 27,286
                                CT - 26,312 - up 3.1%

                                NYS - 304,372
                                *NYC - 167,478 up 1.6%
                                NJ - 118,652
                                MA - 62,205 - up 3.3%
                                IL - 52,921 - up 4.9%
                                CA - 49,841
                                PA - 47,971
                                MI - 41,379
                                Cook County - 36,513 up 4.8%
                                Nassau County - 35,854

                                FL - 33,690
                                Suffolk County - 33,664
                                Westchester County - 28,970 up 1.3%

                                TX - 28,313
                                LA - 28,001

                                Cook County and IL are really moving up. Looks like Chicago is the current hot spot, at least in terms of growth.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

                                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                                  NYS - 295,106
                                  NYC - 162,338 up 1.3%
                                  NJ - 113,856
                                  MA - 58,302 - up 3%
                                  IL - 48,102 - up 4.7%
                                  CA - 46,033 - up 3.5%
                                  PA - 45,137
                                  MI - 39,262
                                  Nassau - 35,085
                                  Cook - 33,449 - up 4.6%

                                  FL - 32,848
                                  Suffolk - 32,724
                                  Westchester - 28,245 up 1.1%

                                  LA - 27,286
                                  CT - 26,312 - up 3.1%

                                  NYS - 304,372
                                  *NYC - 167,478 up 1.6%
                                  NJ - 118,652
                                  MA - 62,205 - up 3.3%
                                  IL - 52,921 - up 4.9%
                                  CA - 49,841
                                  PA - 47,971
                                  MI - 41,379
                                  Cook County - 36,513 up 4.8%
                                  Nassau County - 35,854

                                  FL - 33,690
                                  Suffolk County - 33,664
                                  Westchester County - 28,970 up 1.3%

                                  TX - 28,313
                                  LA - 28,001

                                  Cook County and IL are really moving up. Looks like Chicago is the current hot spot, at least in terms of growth.

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                                  @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                                  Cook County and IL are really moving up. Looks like Chicago is the current hot spot, at least in terms of growth.

                                  And this, despite the "stay at home" "social distancing" directives.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                                    NYS - 295,106
                                    NYC - 162,338 up 1.3%
                                    NJ - 113,856
                                    MA - 58,302 - up 3%
                                    IL - 48,102 - up 4.7%
                                    CA - 46,033 - up 3.5%
                                    PA - 45,137
                                    MI - 39,262
                                    Nassau - 35,085
                                    Cook - 33,449 - up 4.6%

                                    FL - 32,848
                                    Suffolk - 32,724
                                    Westchester - 28,245 up 1.1%

                                    LA - 27,286
                                    CT - 26,312 - up 3.1%

                                    NYS - 304,372
                                    *NYC - 167,478 up 1.6%
                                    NJ - 118,652
                                    MA - 62,205 - up 3.3%
                                    IL - 52,921 - up 4.9%
                                    CA - 49,841
                                    PA - 47,971
                                    MI - 41,379
                                    Cook County - 36,513 up 4.8%
                                    Nassau County - 35,854

                                    FL - 33,690
                                    Suffolk County - 33,664
                                    Westchester County - 28,970 up 1.3%

                                    TX - 28,313
                                    LA - 28,001

                                    Cook County and IL are really moving up. Looks like Chicago is the current hot spot, at least in terms of growth.

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                                    @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                                    NYS - 304,372
                                    *NYC - 167,478 up 1.6%
                                    NJ - 118,652
                                    MA - 62,205 - up 3.3%
                                    IL - 52,921 - up 4.9%
                                    CA - 49,841
                                    PA - 47,971
                                    MI - 41,379
                                    Cook County - 36,513 up 4.8%
                                    Nassau County - 35,854

                                    FL - 33,690
                                    Suffolk County - 33,664
                                    Westchester County - 28,970 up 1.3%

                                    TX - 28,313
                                    LA - 28,001

                                    NYS - 308,314
                                    NYC - 169,690 up 1.3%
                                    NJ - 121,190
                                    MA - 64,311 - up 3.4%
                                    IL - 56,055 - up 5.9%
                                    CA - 50,670
                                    PA - 49,579 - up 3.3%
                                    MI - 42,388
                                    Cook - 38,668 - up 5.6%
                                    Nassau - 36,161

                                    FL - 34,728
                                    Suffolk - 34,037
                                    TX - 29,272 - up 3.2%
                                    Westchester - 29,232 - up 1.0%
                                    CT - 28,855

                                    TX passed Westchester now. I'll stop tracking individual counties as they fall out of the range top 10 states (those that do).

                                    Again Chicago is the overachiever.

                                    Anything not marked is under 3% growth.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                                      NYS - 304,372
                                      *NYC - 167,478 up 1.6%
                                      NJ - 118,652
                                      MA - 62,205 - up 3.3%
                                      IL - 52,921 - up 4.9%
                                      CA - 49,841
                                      PA - 47,971
                                      MI - 41,379
                                      Cook County - 36,513 up 4.8%
                                      Nassau County - 35,854

                                      FL - 33,690
                                      Suffolk County - 33,664
                                      Westchester County - 28,970 up 1.3%

                                      TX - 28,313
                                      LA - 28,001

                                      NYS - 308,314
                                      NYC - 169,690 up 1.3%
                                      NJ - 121,190
                                      MA - 64,311 - up 3.4%
                                      IL - 56,055 - up 5.9%
                                      CA - 50,670
                                      PA - 49,579 - up 3.3%
                                      MI - 42,388
                                      Cook - 38,668 - up 5.6%
                                      Nassau - 36,161

                                      FL - 34,728
                                      Suffolk - 34,037
                                      TX - 29,272 - up 3.2%
                                      Westchester - 29,232 - up 1.0%
                                      CT - 28,855

                                      TX passed Westchester now. I'll stop tracking individual counties as they fall out of the range top 10 states (those that do).

                                      Again Chicago is the overachiever.

                                      Anything not marked is under 3% growth.

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                                      @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                                      NYS - 308,314
                                      NYC - 169,690 up 1.3%
                                      NJ - 121,190
                                      MA - 64,311 - up 3.4%
                                      IL - 56,055 - up 5.9%
                                      CA - 50,670
                                      PA - 49,579 - up 3.3%
                                      MI - 42,388
                                      Cook - 38,668 - up 5.6%
                                      Nassau - 36,161

                                      FL - 34,728
                                      Suffolk - 34,037
                                      TX - 29,272 - up 3.2%
                                      Westchester - 29,232 - up 1.0%
                                      CT - 28,855

                                      NYS - 316,415
                                      NYC - 174,331 - 1.5%
                                      NJ - 126,744
                                      MA - 68,087
                                      IL - 61,521 - 4.8%
                                      CA - 53,954 - 3.2%
                                      PA - 51,225
                                      MI - 43,811
                                      Cook - 42,324 - 4.7%
                                      Nassau - 36,780
                                      FL - 36,078
                                      Suffolk - 34,855
                                      TX - 31,719 - up 4.2%
                                      Westchester - 29,884 - 1.1%
                                      LA - 29,340

                                      If it's not listed it's under 3.

                                      Cook/IL again the overachievers.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                        Once again, Chicago (and Cook County) excel in all the wrong ways.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                                          NYS - 308,314
                                          NYC - 169,690 up 1.3%
                                          NJ - 121,190
                                          MA - 64,311 - up 3.4%
                                          IL - 56,055 - up 5.9%
                                          CA - 50,670
                                          PA - 49,579 - up 3.3%
                                          MI - 42,388
                                          Cook - 38,668 - up 5.6%
                                          Nassau - 36,161

                                          FL - 34,728
                                          Suffolk - 34,037
                                          TX - 29,272 - up 3.2%
                                          Westchester - 29,232 - up 1.0%
                                          CT - 28,855

                                          NYS - 316,415
                                          NYC - 174,331 - 1.5%
                                          NJ - 126,744
                                          MA - 68,087
                                          IL - 61,521 - 4.8%
                                          CA - 53,954 - 3.2%
                                          PA - 51,225
                                          MI - 43,811
                                          Cook - 42,324 - 4.7%
                                          Nassau - 36,780
                                          FL - 36,078
                                          Suffolk - 34,855
                                          TX - 31,719 - up 4.2%
                                          Westchester - 29,884 - 1.1%
                                          LA - 29,340

                                          If it's not listed it's under 3.

                                          Cook/IL again the overachievers.

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                                          @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                                          NYS - 316,415
                                          NYC - 174,331 - 1.5%
                                          NJ - 126,744
                                          MA - 68,087
                                          IL - 61,521 - 4.8%
                                          CA - 53,954 - 3.2%
                                          PA - 51,225
                                          MI - 43,811
                                          Cook - 42,324 - 4.7%
                                          Nassau - 36,780
                                          FL - 36,078
                                          Suffolk - 34,855
                                          TX - 31,719 - up 4.2%
                                          Westchester - 29,884 - 1.1%
                                          LA - 29,340

                                          NYS - 318,953
                                          NYC - 175,651 - up 0.76%
                                          NJ - 128,269
                                          MA - 69.087
                                          IL - 63,777 - up 3.7%
                                          CA - 55,658 - up 3.2%
                                          PA - 52,816 - up 3.1%
                                          MI - 43,801 - down 10 cases? wtf?
                                          Cook - 43,715 - up 3.3%
                                          Nassau - 36,965
                                          FL - 36,897
                                          Suffolk - 35,077
                                          TX - 32,711 - up 3.2%
                                          Westchester - 30,097
                                          LA - 29,673

                                          IL still leading the growth pack. More states above 3% growth than we've seen in a while.

                                          (if it's not listed it's under 3%)

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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