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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 29 Apr 2020, 11:26 last edited by
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    The virus tends to spread in humans so the case count is higher where more humans live.

    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

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    • J jon-nyc
      29 Apr 2020, 11:26

      The virus tends to spread in humans so the case count is higher where more humans live.

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      George K
      wrote on 29 Apr 2020, 11:32 last edited by George K
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      @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

      The virus tends to spread in humans so the case count is higher where more humans live.

      Yeah. Funny, that, eh?

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        29 Apr 2020, 11:26

        The virus tends to spread in humans so the case count is higher where more humans live.

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        LuFins Dad
        wrote on 29 Apr 2020, 13:46 last edited by
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        @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

        The virus tends to spread in humans so the case count is higher where more humans live.

        Yeah, but that’s nowhere near proportional in Pennsylvania.

        The Brad

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 29 Apr 2020, 14:06 last edited by
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          You would expect convexity. The reproductive rate would have a non-linear relationship with density.

          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
          -Cormac McCarthy

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          • J jon-nyc
            29 Apr 2020, 11:26

            The virus tends to spread in humans so the case count is higher where more humans live.

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            Horace
            wrote on 29 Apr 2020, 14:44 last edited by
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            @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

            The virus tends to spread in humans so the case count is higher where more humans live.

            that's what the per-capita brigade would have us believe.

            Education is extremely important.

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 29 Apr 2020, 14:44 last edited by
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              I’m a brevet colonel in the per-capita brigade.

              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
              -Cormac McCarthy

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                29 Apr 2020, 11:26

                The virus tends to spread in humans so the case count is higher where more humans live.

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                Klaus
                wrote on 29 Apr 2020, 14:54 last edited by
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                @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                The virus tends to spread in humans so the case count is higher where more humans live.

                Is anything known about whether it spreads via animals, too?

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 29 Apr 2020, 14:54 last edited by
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                  Animals have caught it. Imagine they could spread it too. But I haven’t heard anything specific.

                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                  • J jon-nyc
                    29 Apr 2020, 14:54

                    Animals have caught it. Imagine they could spread it too. But I haven’t heard anything specific.

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                    George K
                    wrote on 29 Apr 2020, 14:58 last edited by
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                    @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                    Animals have caught it. Imagine they could spread it too. But I haven’t heard anything specific.

                    Coronavirus is very common in cats (though not this particular strain). One of the scary things is that it is usually a nothingburger, but sometimes it mutates causing Feline Infectious Peritonitis. A particularly nasty disease that is usually fatal.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on 29 Apr 2020, 15:00 last edited by
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                      This particular virus has infected large cats and domestic cats.

                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                      • J jon-nyc
                        29 Apr 2020, 15:00

                        This particular virus has infected large cats and domestic cats.

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                        George K
                        wrote on 29 Apr 2020, 15:02 last edited by
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                        @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                        This particular virus has infected large cats and domestic cats.

                        Yup and at least one dog.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • K Klaus
                          29 Apr 2020, 14:54

                          @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                          The virus tends to spread in humans so the case count is higher where more humans live.

                          Is anything known about whether it spreads via animals, too?

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                          brenda
                          wrote on 29 Apr 2020, 15:05 last edited by
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                          @Klaus said in NYC is ground zero:

                          @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                          The virus tends to spread in humans so the case count is higher where more humans live.

                          Is anything known about whether it spreads via animals, too?

                          Yes. Several pets have gotten it, presumably from their owners. Indoor cats have gotten it. Dogs, too, have tested positive.
                          https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/daily-life-coping/animals.html

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                          • B brenda
                            29 Apr 2020, 15:05

                            @Klaus said in NYC is ground zero:

                            @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                            The virus tends to spread in humans so the case count is higher where more humans live.

                            Is anything known about whether it spreads via animals, too?

                            Yes. Several pets have gotten it, presumably from their owners. Indoor cats have gotten it. Dogs, too, have tested positive.
                            https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/daily-life-coping/animals.html

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                            brenda
                            wrote on 29 Apr 2020, 15:09 last edited by
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                            @brenda said in NYC is ground zero:

                            @Klaus said in NYC is ground zero:

                            @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                            The virus tends to spread in humans so the case count is higher where more humans live.

                            Is anything known about whether it spreads via animals, too?

                            Yes. Several pets have gotten it, presumably from their owners. Indoor cats have gotten it. Dogs, too, have tested positive.
                            https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/daily-life-coping/animals.html

                            Tigers are getting it, and some have died.

                            https://api-nationalgeographic-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/api.nationalgeographic.com/distribution/public/amp/animals/2020/04/tiger-coronavirus-covid19-positive-test-bronx-zoo?amp_js_v=a3&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQIKAGwASDAAQE%3D#aoh=15881728578968&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From %251%24s

                            https://www-chicagotribune-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/sns-nyt-coronavirus-threatens-indias-tiger-population-20200423-dndxj62njvai7f2davsv6zek6a-story.html?amp_js_v=a3&amp_gsa=1&outputType=amp&usqp=mq331AQIKAGwASDAAQE%3D#aoh=15881729629981&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From %251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.chicagotribune.com%2Fcoronavirus%2Fsns-nyt-coronavirus-threatens-indias-tiger-population-20200423-dndxj62njvai7f2davsv6zek6a-story.html

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                              28 Apr 2020, 22:34

                              @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                              NYS - 288,045
                              NYC - 158,258 2,6% increase
                              NJ - 109,038
                              MA - 54,938 - up 9.2%
                              IL - 43,903 - up 5.2%
                              CA - 42,952
                              PA - 42,616
                              MI - 37,588
                              Nassau - 34,522
                              Suffolk - 32,059

                              FL - 31,532
                              Cook - 30,574 - up 5.2%
                              Westchester - 27,644 up 1.9%

                              LA - 26,773
                              CT - 24,750

                              NYS - 295,106
                              NYC - 162,338 up 1.3%
                              NJ - 113,856
                              MA - 58,302 - up 3%
                              IL - 48,102 - up 4.7%
                              CA - 46,033 - up 3.5%
                              PA - 45,137
                              MI - 39,262
                              Nassau - 35,085
                              Cook - 33,449 - up 4.6%

                              FL - 32,848
                              Suffolk - 32,724
                              Westchester - 28,245 up 1.1%

                              LA - 27,286
                              CT - 26,312 - up 3.1%

                              IL is a hot spot (relatively). Cook county overtook Suffolk county and the state of Florida. Florida took over Suffolk. Everything not listed grew by less than 3%

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on 30 Apr 2020, 22:45 last edited by
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                              @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                              NYS - 295,106
                              NYC - 162,338 up 1.3%
                              NJ - 113,856
                              MA - 58,302 - up 3%
                              IL - 48,102 - up 4.7%
                              CA - 46,033 - up 3.5%
                              PA - 45,137
                              MI - 39,262
                              Nassau - 35,085
                              Cook - 33,449 - up 4.6%

                              FL - 32,848
                              Suffolk - 32,724
                              Westchester - 28,245 up 1.1%

                              LA - 27,286
                              CT - 26,312 - up 3.1%

                              NYS - 304,372
                              *NYC - 167,478 up 1.6%
                              NJ - 118,652
                              MA - 62,205 - up 3.3%
                              IL - 52,921 - up 4.9%
                              CA - 49,841
                              PA - 47,971
                              MI - 41,379
                              Cook County - 36,513 up 4.8%
                              Nassau County - 35,854

                              FL - 33,690
                              Suffolk County - 33,664
                              Westchester County - 28,970 up 1.3%

                              TX - 28,313
                              LA - 28,001

                              Cook County and IL are really moving up. Looks like Chicago is the current hot spot, at least in terms of growth.

                              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                              -Cormac McCarthy

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                                30 Apr 2020, 22:45

                                @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                                NYS - 295,106
                                NYC - 162,338 up 1.3%
                                NJ - 113,856
                                MA - 58,302 - up 3%
                                IL - 48,102 - up 4.7%
                                CA - 46,033 - up 3.5%
                                PA - 45,137
                                MI - 39,262
                                Nassau - 35,085
                                Cook - 33,449 - up 4.6%

                                FL - 32,848
                                Suffolk - 32,724
                                Westchester - 28,245 up 1.1%

                                LA - 27,286
                                CT - 26,312 - up 3.1%

                                NYS - 304,372
                                *NYC - 167,478 up 1.6%
                                NJ - 118,652
                                MA - 62,205 - up 3.3%
                                IL - 52,921 - up 4.9%
                                CA - 49,841
                                PA - 47,971
                                MI - 41,379
                                Cook County - 36,513 up 4.8%
                                Nassau County - 35,854

                                FL - 33,690
                                Suffolk County - 33,664
                                Westchester County - 28,970 up 1.3%

                                TX - 28,313
                                LA - 28,001

                                Cook County and IL are really moving up. Looks like Chicago is the current hot spot, at least in terms of growth.

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                                George K
                                wrote on 30 Apr 2020, 22:47 last edited by
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                                @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                                Cook County and IL are really moving up. Looks like Chicago is the current hot spot, at least in terms of growth.

                                And this, despite the "stay at home" "social distancing" directives.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  30 Apr 2020, 22:45

                                  @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                                  NYS - 295,106
                                  NYC - 162,338 up 1.3%
                                  NJ - 113,856
                                  MA - 58,302 - up 3%
                                  IL - 48,102 - up 4.7%
                                  CA - 46,033 - up 3.5%
                                  PA - 45,137
                                  MI - 39,262
                                  Nassau - 35,085
                                  Cook - 33,449 - up 4.6%

                                  FL - 32,848
                                  Suffolk - 32,724
                                  Westchester - 28,245 up 1.1%

                                  LA - 27,286
                                  CT - 26,312 - up 3.1%

                                  NYS - 304,372
                                  *NYC - 167,478 up 1.6%
                                  NJ - 118,652
                                  MA - 62,205 - up 3.3%
                                  IL - 52,921 - up 4.9%
                                  CA - 49,841
                                  PA - 47,971
                                  MI - 41,379
                                  Cook County - 36,513 up 4.8%
                                  Nassau County - 35,854

                                  FL - 33,690
                                  Suffolk County - 33,664
                                  Westchester County - 28,970 up 1.3%

                                  TX - 28,313
                                  LA - 28,001

                                  Cook County and IL are really moving up. Looks like Chicago is the current hot spot, at least in terms of growth.

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on 1 May 2020, 22:09 last edited by
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                                  @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                                  NYS - 304,372
                                  *NYC - 167,478 up 1.6%
                                  NJ - 118,652
                                  MA - 62,205 - up 3.3%
                                  IL - 52,921 - up 4.9%
                                  CA - 49,841
                                  PA - 47,971
                                  MI - 41,379
                                  Cook County - 36,513 up 4.8%
                                  Nassau County - 35,854

                                  FL - 33,690
                                  Suffolk County - 33,664
                                  Westchester County - 28,970 up 1.3%

                                  TX - 28,313
                                  LA - 28,001

                                  NYS - 308,314
                                  NYC - 169,690 up 1.3%
                                  NJ - 121,190
                                  MA - 64,311 - up 3.4%
                                  IL - 56,055 - up 5.9%
                                  CA - 50,670
                                  PA - 49,579 - up 3.3%
                                  MI - 42,388
                                  Cook - 38,668 - up 5.6%
                                  Nassau - 36,161

                                  FL - 34,728
                                  Suffolk - 34,037
                                  TX - 29,272 - up 3.2%
                                  Westchester - 29,232 - up 1.0%
                                  CT - 28,855

                                  TX passed Westchester now. I'll stop tracking individual counties as they fall out of the range top 10 states (those that do).

                                  Again Chicago is the overachiever.

                                  Anything not marked is under 3% growth.

                                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                                  • J jon-nyc
                                    1 May 2020, 22:09

                                    @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                                    NYS - 304,372
                                    *NYC - 167,478 up 1.6%
                                    NJ - 118,652
                                    MA - 62,205 - up 3.3%
                                    IL - 52,921 - up 4.9%
                                    CA - 49,841
                                    PA - 47,971
                                    MI - 41,379
                                    Cook County - 36,513 up 4.8%
                                    Nassau County - 35,854

                                    FL - 33,690
                                    Suffolk County - 33,664
                                    Westchester County - 28,970 up 1.3%

                                    TX - 28,313
                                    LA - 28,001

                                    NYS - 308,314
                                    NYC - 169,690 up 1.3%
                                    NJ - 121,190
                                    MA - 64,311 - up 3.4%
                                    IL - 56,055 - up 5.9%
                                    CA - 50,670
                                    PA - 49,579 - up 3.3%
                                    MI - 42,388
                                    Cook - 38,668 - up 5.6%
                                    Nassau - 36,161

                                    FL - 34,728
                                    Suffolk - 34,037
                                    TX - 29,272 - up 3.2%
                                    Westchester - 29,232 - up 1.0%
                                    CT - 28,855

                                    TX passed Westchester now. I'll stop tracking individual counties as they fall out of the range top 10 states (those that do).

                                    Again Chicago is the overachiever.

                                    Anything not marked is under 3% growth.

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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on 3 May 2020, 22:23 last edited by
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                                    @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                                    NYS - 308,314
                                    NYC - 169,690 up 1.3%
                                    NJ - 121,190
                                    MA - 64,311 - up 3.4%
                                    IL - 56,055 - up 5.9%
                                    CA - 50,670
                                    PA - 49,579 - up 3.3%
                                    MI - 42,388
                                    Cook - 38,668 - up 5.6%
                                    Nassau - 36,161

                                    FL - 34,728
                                    Suffolk - 34,037
                                    TX - 29,272 - up 3.2%
                                    Westchester - 29,232 - up 1.0%
                                    CT - 28,855

                                    NYS - 316,415
                                    NYC - 174,331 - 1.5%
                                    NJ - 126,744
                                    MA - 68,087
                                    IL - 61,521 - 4.8%
                                    CA - 53,954 - 3.2%
                                    PA - 51,225
                                    MI - 43,811
                                    Cook - 42,324 - 4.7%
                                    Nassau - 36,780
                                    FL - 36,078
                                    Suffolk - 34,855
                                    TX - 31,719 - up 4.2%
                                    Westchester - 29,884 - 1.1%
                                    LA - 29,340

                                    If it's not listed it's under 3.

                                    Cook/IL again the overachievers.

                                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 3 May 2020, 22:25 last edited by
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                                      Once again, Chicago (and Cook County) excel in all the wrong ways.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        3 May 2020, 22:23

                                        @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                                        NYS - 308,314
                                        NYC - 169,690 up 1.3%
                                        NJ - 121,190
                                        MA - 64,311 - up 3.4%
                                        IL - 56,055 - up 5.9%
                                        CA - 50,670
                                        PA - 49,579 - up 3.3%
                                        MI - 42,388
                                        Cook - 38,668 - up 5.6%
                                        Nassau - 36,161

                                        FL - 34,728
                                        Suffolk - 34,037
                                        TX - 29,272 - up 3.2%
                                        Westchester - 29,232 - up 1.0%
                                        CT - 28,855

                                        NYS - 316,415
                                        NYC - 174,331 - 1.5%
                                        NJ - 126,744
                                        MA - 68,087
                                        IL - 61,521 - 4.8%
                                        CA - 53,954 - 3.2%
                                        PA - 51,225
                                        MI - 43,811
                                        Cook - 42,324 - 4.7%
                                        Nassau - 36,780
                                        FL - 36,078
                                        Suffolk - 34,855
                                        TX - 31,719 - up 4.2%
                                        Westchester - 29,884 - 1.1%
                                        LA - 29,340

                                        If it's not listed it's under 3.

                                        Cook/IL again the overachievers.

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on 4 May 2020, 22:24 last edited by
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                                        @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                                        NYS - 316,415
                                        NYC - 174,331 - 1.5%
                                        NJ - 126,744
                                        MA - 68,087
                                        IL - 61,521 - 4.8%
                                        CA - 53,954 - 3.2%
                                        PA - 51,225
                                        MI - 43,811
                                        Cook - 42,324 - 4.7%
                                        Nassau - 36,780
                                        FL - 36,078
                                        Suffolk - 34,855
                                        TX - 31,719 - up 4.2%
                                        Westchester - 29,884 - 1.1%
                                        LA - 29,340

                                        NYS - 318,953
                                        NYC - 175,651 - up 0.76%
                                        NJ - 128,269
                                        MA - 69.087
                                        IL - 63,777 - up 3.7%
                                        CA - 55,658 - up 3.2%
                                        PA - 52,816 - up 3.1%
                                        MI - 43,801 - down 10 cases? wtf?
                                        Cook - 43,715 - up 3.3%
                                        Nassau - 36,965
                                        FL - 36,897
                                        Suffolk - 35,077
                                        TX - 32,711 - up 3.2%
                                        Westchester - 30,097
                                        LA - 29,673

                                        IL still leading the growth pack. More states above 3% growth than we've seen in a while.

                                        (if it's not listed it's under 3%)

                                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                                          7pm cheering for the medical and essential workers. Quite a tradition.

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