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NYC is ground zero

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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

    NYS - 338,485
    NYC - 186,123 up 0.41%
    NJ - 140,917
    IL - 83,021 up 5.1%
    MA - 79,332
    CA - 69,716
    PA - 61,310
    Cook - 55,470 up 3.9%
    MI - 48,021
    FL - 41,923
    TX - 40,909
    Nassau - 38,434
    Suffolk - 37,062
    GA - 34,754

    NYS - 343,051
    NYC - 188,545 up 0.64%
    NJ - 142,704
    IL - 87,937
    Lombardia, IT
    MA - 80,497
    CA - 74,392 - up 3.3%
    Hubei, CN
    Madrid, ES

    PA - 63,105
    Catalonia, ES
    MI - 49,582
    Bayern, DE
    TX - 43,984
    FL - 43,210
    Quebec, CA
    MD - 35,903

    I did something different today, instead of interspersing US counties, I did international states/provinces/regions.

    (if % is not listed it's under 3%)

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    #107

    @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

    NYS - 343,051
    NYC - 188,545 up 0.64%
    NJ - 142,704
    IL - 87,937
    Lombardia, IT
    MA - 80,497
    CA - 74,392 - up 3.3%
    Hubei, CN
    Madrid, ES

    PA - 63,105
    Catalonia, ES
    MI - 49,582
    Bayern, DE
    TX - 43,984
    FL - 43,210
    Quebec, CA
    MD - 35,903

    NYS - 345,813
    NYC - 190,357 up 0.96%
    NJ - 143,984
    IL - 90,387
    MA - 83,412 - up 3.6%
    CA - 76,421
    PA - 64,136
    Cook - 59,905
    MI - 50,102
    TX - 45,208
    FL - 43,210 - unchanged from yesterday, WTF
    Nassau
    Suffolk

    MD - 36,986 - up 3%

    (if % is not listed it's under 3%)

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

      NYS - 343,051
      NYC - 188,545 up 0.64%
      NJ - 142,704
      IL - 87,937
      Lombardia, IT
      MA - 80,497
      CA - 74,392 - up 3.3%
      Hubei, CN
      Madrid, ES

      PA - 63,105
      Catalonia, ES
      MI - 49,582
      Bayern, DE
      TX - 43,984
      FL - 43,210
      Quebec, CA
      MD - 35,903

      NYS - 345,813
      NYC - 190,357 up 0.96%
      NJ - 143,984
      IL - 90,387
      MA - 83,412 - up 3.6%
      CA - 76,421
      PA - 64,136
      Cook - 59,905
      MI - 50,102
      TX - 45,208
      FL - 43,210 - unchanged from yesterday, WTF
      Nassau
      Suffolk

      MD - 36,986 - up 3%

      (if % is not listed it's under 3%)

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on last edited by
      #108

      @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

      NYS - 345,813
      NYC - 190,357 up 0.96%
      NJ - 143,984
      IL - 90,387
      MA - 83,412 - up 3.6%
      CA - 76,421
      PA - 64,136
      Cook - 59,905
      MI - 50,102
      TX - 45,208
      FL - 43,210 - unchanged from yesterday, WTF
      Nassau
      Suffolk

      MD - 36,986 - up 3%

      NYS - 348,232
      NYC - 191,600 up 0.65%
      NJ - 145,089
      IL - 92,465 up 2.3%
      MA - 84,933
      CA - 77,516
      PA - 65,185
      Cook - 61,212
      MI - 50,538
      TX - 47,107 - up 4.2%
      FL - 44,811
      Nassau
      MD - 37,964
      Suffolk

      With the rate MD is rising, Suffolk probably fell out of the top 10 range for good.

      (if % is not listed it's under 3%)

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        Just today I thought I'd list the next 10. Threw in some counties that might be of interest were they fit in between the states. Skipped various NJ counties, because, well, NJ.

        11: GA - 32,162
        Westchester
        Los Angeles County

        12: LA - 30,855
        13: MD - 30,485
        14: IN - 23,146
        15: OH - 23,016
        16: VA - 22,342
        17: CO - 18,371
        Wayne Co Michigan (Detroit)
        Philadelphia County (Philly)
        Middlesex County MA (not Boston but adjacent)

        18: WA - 16,231
        Suffolk County MA (Boston)
        19: TN - 14,452
        20: NC - 13.953

        Observations:

        • GA is fewer than 300 cases behind CT, the current #10. I haven't tracked growth here but it wouldn't surprise me to see it move into the top 10 at some point.

        • WA has done pretty well. They used to be worst hit.

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
        #109

        @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

        11: GA - 32,162
        12: LA - 30,855
        13: MD - 30,485
        14: IN - 23,146
        15: OH - 23,016
        16: VA - 22,342
        17: CO - 18,371
        18: WA - 16,231
        19: TN - 14,452
        20: NC - 13.953

        The above are #s 11-20 from 8 days ago. Thought I'd check in again to see how the rankings have changed.

        (Percentages are compound DAILY growth rates.)

        11: GA - 37,161 - 1.8%
        12: CT - 36,703 - 1.6% (was in top 10 last week)
        13: LA - 34,117 - 1.3%
        14: VA - 29,683 - 3.6%
        15: OH - 27,474 - 2.2%
        16: IN - 27,280 - 2.1%
        17: CO - 21,232 - 1.8%
        18: NC - 18,101 - 3.3%
        19: WA - 17,951 - 1.3%
        20: TN - 17,265 - 2.2%

        NC and VA are the two that climbed in rankings (and MD, which is in top 10 now), and you can see their growth is a full % point or more above the others.

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

          11: GA - 32,162
          12: LA - 30,855
          13: MD - 30,485
          14: IN - 23,146
          15: OH - 23,016
          16: VA - 22,342
          17: CO - 18,371
          18: WA - 16,231
          19: TN - 14,452
          20: NC - 13.953

          The above are #s 11-20 from 8 days ago. Thought I'd check in again to see how the rankings have changed.

          (Percentages are compound DAILY growth rates.)

          11: GA - 37,161 - 1.8%
          12: CT - 36,703 - 1.6% (was in top 10 last week)
          13: LA - 34,117 - 1.3%
          14: VA - 29,683 - 3.6%
          15: OH - 27,474 - 2.2%
          16: IN - 27,280 - 2.1%
          17: CO - 21,232 - 1.8%
          18: NC - 18,101 - 3.3%
          19: WA - 17,951 - 1.3%
          20: TN - 17,265 - 2.2%

          NC and VA are the two that climbed in rankings (and MD, which is in top 10 now), and you can see their growth is a full % point or more above the others.

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          wrote on last edited by
          #110

          @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

          11: GA - 37,161 - 1.8%
          12: CT - 36,703 - 1.6% (was in top 10 last week)
          13: LA - 34,117 - 1.3%
          14: VA - 29,683 - 3.6%
          15: OH - 27,474 - 2.2%
          16: IN - 27,280 - 2.1%
          17: CO - 21,232 - 1.8%
          18: NC - 18,101 - 3.3%
          19: WA - 17,951 - 1.3%
          20: TN - 17,265 - 2.2%

          Thought it would be interesting to see how the top 10 have grown over that same 8 day period.

          NYS - 0.66%
          NJ - 0.83%
          IL - 2.9%
          MA - 1.5%
          CA - 2.5%
          PA - 1.6%
          MI - 1.1%
          TX - 3.0%
          FL - 1.7%
          MD - 2.8%

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            #111

            So here are the top 20 states (by number of cases) but sorted by growth rate:

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            Only non-witches get due process.

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            • LuFins DadL Offline
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              LuFins Dad
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              #112

              We’re #1!

              The Brad

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on last edited by
                #113

                Yeah!

                Keep in mind that’s a compound daily growth rate over 8 days. So not just capturing a bad day or two.

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  #114

                  Interesting to note Maryland's, considering that our stay-at-home order was lifted yesterday.

                  Please love yourself.

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                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                    We’re #1!

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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #115

                    @LuFins-Dad said in NYC is ground zero:

                    We’re #1!

                    Not according to the Virginia's government numbers

                    Maybe they are for a different timeframe or a different method of counting

                    But this chart shows a 7-day moving average of cases going consistently down since 5/1

                    https://www.vdh.virginia.gov/coronavirus/

                    ![alt text](f30a0fcd-1b3e-4960-b685-a8a81d75518f-image.png image url)

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #116

                      What conflict do you see between the 8 day CDGR as it relates to the other 19 states and the data you posted?

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        What conflict do you see between the 8 day CDGR as it relates to the other 19 states and the data you posted?

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                        @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                        What conflict do you see between the 8 day CDGR as it relates to the other 19 states and the data you posted?

                        Positive vs negative growth rate

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                          #118

                          1st vs 2nd derivative. There’s no conflict.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            positive = negative?

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                              #120

                              No, the analogy is speed vs acceleration. My post pointed out that virginia is going faster than the other states. You pointed out that their speed is decreasing over time. 1st deriv (speed) positive, 2nd deriv (acceleration) negative.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                              • L Loki

                                IHME is back up. It says NY needs 5664 ventilators. Very different than Cuomo’s 30k

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                                  #122

                                  I'm going to update this weekly and do a bit more analysis. First of all it's a bit of a pain in the ass to do daily, secondly I think the weekly trends are more informative.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      Not very flat

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