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Who killed Ashli Babbitt?

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  • JollyJ Jolly

    @renauda said in Who killed Ashli Babbitt?:

    @jon-nyc said in Who killed Ashli Babbitt?:

    Less than a year ago the Secret Service shot a man outside the white house complex that they deemed a threat.

    They didn't release the shooter's name.

    That could be an inconvenient fact for some who feel they have a need to know about the Babbitt shooting.

    I am certain that an internal investigation has already taken place and the officer involved has been accordingly cleared of any wrong doing. I realise there are people who feel and insist they have a need to know about this, but at the end of the day they do not have any need, let alone any right to know about a lot of internal police and security matters.

    You argue in the face of the fact we know the name of the officer in any public police shooting (within U.S., U.S. citizen).

    So, why not in this case?

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    jon-nyc
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    @jolly Did you read the thread? This doesn’t seem to be unusual in the case of Secret Service or Capitol police.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      @loki said in Who killed Ashli Babbitt?:

      @jon-nyc said in Who killed Ashli Babbitt?:

      Honestly when a large mob overwhelms the force protecting a branch of government a hail of indiscriminate gunfire is probably indicated.

      Would anybody expect otherwise had it been the White House?

      Security was abhorrent. The Mayor begged for no national guard presence. Capitol police was biased based on prior events of this nature. Right wing unrest was building for decades.

      The 250+ arrested were 2/3 over 34, only 13% members of right wing groups, 40% were biz owners and or white collar, and only 9% unemployed. I can only imagine the other thousands were probably even more of that nature. Not your typical riot crowd if you were evaluating your invaders in real time.

      The one thing they all had in common though was they all drank the orange koolaid. I hear it's powerful stuff.

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      @nobodyssock said in Who killed Ashli Babbitt?:

      @loki said in Who killed Ashli Babbitt?:

      @jon-nyc said in Who killed Ashli Babbitt?:

      Honestly when a large mob overwhelms the force protecting a branch of government a hail of indiscriminate gunfire is probably indicated.

      Would anybody expect otherwise had it been the White House?

      Security was abhorrent. The Mayor begged for no national guard presence. Capitol police was biased based on prior events of this nature. Right wing unrest was building for decades.

      The 250+ arrested were 2/3 over 34, only 13% members of right wing groups, 40% were biz owners and or white collar, and only 9% unemployed. I can only imagine the other thousands were probably even more of that nature. Not your typical riot crowd if you were evaluating your invaders in real time.

      The one thing they all had in common though was they all drank the orange koolaid. I hear it's powerful stuff.

      Tell ya what...Scenario...Any city within America...

      BLM riot. Protester breaks into a public building, be it courthouse, be it police station, whatever. An officer of the court fires on an unarmed BLM protester and kills them.

      I'd like to hear your argument about why the matter would not be made public.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        @jolly Did you read the thread? This doesn’t seem to be unusual in the case of Secret Service or Capitol police.

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        #35

        @jon-nyc said in Who killed Ashli Babbitt?:

        @jolly Did you read the thread? This doesn’t seem to be unusual in the case of Secret Service or Capitol police.

        I don't believe in different standards for officers of the court, when the shooting occurs on American territory against an American citizen.

        Period.

        To do otherwise, is madness. Ruby Ridge Redux.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          jon-nyc
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          #36

          Ok, but I think it’s definitively not true that it’s being withheld just in this case only.

          Only non-witches get due process.

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            Doctor Phibes
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            Does America normally name it's secret service agents?

            I was only joking

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              jon-nyc
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              #38

              No. Nor capitol police.

              Only non-witches get due process.

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                Doctor Phibes
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                Glad to here it. There's not much chance of being a tip-top Secret Agent if your name appears in the papers.

                I was only joking

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                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                  Glad to here it. There's not much chance of being a tip-top Secret Agent if your name appears in the papers.

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                  Jolly
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                  @doctor-phibes said in Who killed Ashli Babbitt?:

                  Glad to here it. There's not much chance of being a tip-top Secret Agent if your name appears in the papers.

                  They're not secret agents. The Secret Service works for Homeland Security.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    @doctor-phibes said in Who killed Ashli Babbitt?:

                    Glad to here it. There's not much chance of being a tip-top Secret Agent if your name appears in the papers.

                    They're not secret agents. The Secret Service works for Homeland Security.

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                    Well, they shouldn't call themselves the Secret Service then. You certainly wouldn't catch James Bond messing about with this hoi polloi rabble.

                    I was only joking

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                      Well, they shouldn't call themselves the Secret Service then. You certainly wouldn't catch James Bond messing about with this hoi polloi rabble.

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                      I don’t know what the standard procedure is for these kinds of officers. But, in this singular case, as someone else mentioned earlier, this man would have millions of nutters out to get him if his name became public, regardless of whether he was justified in the shooting or not. For this man and his families own safety, it is only common sense not to release his name to the public.

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                      • ? A Former User

                        I don’t know what the standard procedure is for these kinds of officers. But, in this singular case, as someone else mentioned earlier, this man would have millions of nutters out to get him if his name became public, regardless of whether he was justified in the shooting or not. For this man and his families own safety, it is only common sense not to release his name to the public.

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                        @nobodyssock said in Who killed Ashli Babbitt?:

                        I don’t know what the standard procedure is for these kinds of officers. But, in this singular case, as someone else mentioned earlier, this man would have millions of nutters out to get him if his name became public, regardless of whether he was justified in the shooting or not. For this man and his families own safety, it is only common sense not to release his name to the public.

                        Millions?

                        Idiot.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • ? A Former User

                          I don’t know what the standard procedure is for these kinds of officers. But, in this singular case, as someone else mentioned earlier, this man would have millions of nutters out to get him if his name became public, regardless of whether he was justified in the shooting or not. For this man and his families own safety, it is only common sense not to release his name to the public.

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                          @nobodyssock said in Who killed Ashli Babbitt?:

                          I don’t know what the standard procedure is for these kinds of officers. But, in this singular case, as someone else mentioned earlier, this man would have millions of nutters out to get him if his name became public, regardless of whether he was justified in the shooting or not. For this man and his families own safety, it is only common sense not to release his name to the public.

                          That depends somewhat on who you kill, or who you are accused of killing.

                          Some police get their own wiki

                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derek_Chauvin

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                            Squirrel!

                            Elbows up!

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                            • JollyJ Jolly

                              @nobodyssock said in Who killed Ashli Babbitt?:

                              I don’t know what the standard procedure is for these kinds of officers. But, in this singular case, as someone else mentioned earlier, this man would have millions of nutters out to get him if his name became public, regardless of whether he was justified in the shooting or not. For this man and his families own safety, it is only common sense not to release his name to the public.

                              Millions?

                              Idiot.

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                              @jolly said in Who killed Ashli Babbitt?:

                              @nobodyssock said in Who killed Ashli Babbitt?:

                              I don’t know what the standard procedure is for these kinds of officers. But, in this singular case, as someone else mentioned earlier, this man would have millions of nutters out to get him if his name became public, regardless of whether he was justified in the shooting or not. For this man and his families own safety, it is only common sense not to release his name to the public.

                              Millions?

                              Idiot.

                              Billions even! That's how many Trump think voted for him.

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                                It seems the public will soon know the answer to the question originally posed by this thread: “Who lilled Ashli Babbitt”

                                https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/25/ashli-babbitt-shooter-to-reveal-identity-to-nbc-news-lester-holt.html

                                The officer who fired the shot will review his/her identity at an interview to be aired on Thursday, 2021 August 26.

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                                  Glad they found a way to monetize this. I hear the shooter’s contract includes bonus clauses for tears and other obvious signs of emotional stress, especially during descriptions of PTSD symptoms.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                    Anybody who wants to know, knows. It's an open secret by now.

                                    They picked the most liberal network and I guarantee it will be a sympathetic interview.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      Let me know if he had a GoFundMe.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                        I still want to know what the protocol is for the use of deadly force by the Capitol Police.

                                        Don’t other police departments in this country have such protocols?

                                        Chicago cop shoots onto a crowd, killing an unarmed protester. Just imagine if this had happened during the BLM/Floyd riots protests last year.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          Let me know if he had a GoFundMe.

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                                          @jon-nyc said in Who killed Ashli Babbitt?:

                                          Let me know if he had a GoFundMe.

                                          Don't make me go stick your dog's head on a shovel in the front yard.😛😛

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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