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Who killed Ashli Babbitt?

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  • CopperC Offline
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    I think the whitehouse worked better when you could just walk in off the street and talk to Mr. Lincoln.

    That is about the level of importance and seclusion the president should have.

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    • CopperC Copper

      I think the whitehouse worked better when you could just walk in off the street and talk to Mr. Lincoln.

      That is about the level of importance and seclusion the president should have.

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      Doctor Phibes
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      #94

      @copper said in Who killed Ashli Babbitt?:

      I think the whitehouse worked better when you could just walk in off the street and talk to Mr. Lincoln.

      The theater, too.

      I was only joking

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        https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/officer-who-shot-ashli-babbitt-during-capitol-riot-breaks-silence-n1277736

        Article on the Capitol police officer’s interview with NBC.

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        • CopperC Offline
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          If he prevented injury to congressmen, then his story holds up.

          The evidence doesn't seem clear that he stopped anything by killing her.

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            https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/569827-justified-shooting-or-fair-game-shooter-of-ashlii-babbitt-makes-shocking?rl=1

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG George K

              https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/569827-justified-shooting-or-fair-game-shooter-of-ashlii-babbitt-makes-shocking?rl=1

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              @george-k said in Who killed Ashli Babbitt?:

              https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/569827-justified-shooting-or-fair-game-shooter-of-ashlii-babbitt-makes-shocking?rl=1

              Legal experts and the media have avoided the obvious implications of the two reviews in the Babbitt shooting.

              Under this standard, hundreds of rioters could have been gunned down on Jan. 6 — and officers in cities such as Seattle or Portland, Ore., could have killed hundreds of violent protesters who tried to burn courthouses, took over city halls or occupied police stations during last summer’s widespread rioting.

              Yes, exactly

              By that standard he should have killed them all.

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              • George KG Offline
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                One thing that I wasn't aware of was that there were Capitol Police behind the mob that broke through the window.

                Did this officer not consider that he might have hit one of his colleagues, or would that be "collateral damage?"

                I keep asking, what is the policy for use of deadly force by the Capitol Police? No one seems to have an answer.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • George KG George K

                  One thing that I wasn't aware of was that there were Capitol Police behind the mob that broke through the window.

                  Did this officer not consider that he might have hit one of his colleagues, or would that be "collateral damage?"

                  I keep asking, what is the policy for use of deadly force by the Capitol Police? No one seems to have an answer.

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                  wrote on last edited by
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                  @george-k said in Who killed Ashli Babbitt?:

                  policy for use of deadly force

                  Policy as interpreted by the shooter:

                  But their failure to comply required me to take the appropriate action to save the lives of members of Congress and myself and my fellow officers."

                  None of those died

                  Policy successful

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                  • George KG George K

                    One thing that I wasn't aware of was that there were Capitol Police behind the mob that broke through the window.

                    Did this officer not consider that he might have hit one of his colleagues, or would that be "collateral damage?"

                    I keep asking, what is the policy for use of deadly force by the Capitol Police? No one seems to have an answer.

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                    @george-k said in Who killed Ashli Babbitt?:

                    One thing that I wasn't aware of was that there were Capitol Police behind the mob that broke through the window.

                    Did this officer not consider that he might have hit one of his colleagues, or would that be "collateral damage?"

                    I keep asking, what is the policy for use of deadly force by the Capitol Police? No one seems to have an answer.

                    I brought that up from the very first. A pass-through is highly possible at that range.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • George KG George K

                      One thing that I wasn't aware of was that there were Capitol Police behind the mob that broke through the window.

                      Did this officer not consider that he might have hit one of his colleagues, or would that be "collateral damage?"

                      I keep asking, what is the policy for use of deadly force by the Capitol Police? No one seems to have an answer.

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                      @george-k said in Who killed Ashli Babbitt?:

                      I keep asking, what is the policy for use of deadly force by the Capitol Police? No one seems to have an answer.

                      “An officer may use deadly force only when the officer reasonably believes that action is in the defense of human life, including the officer's own life, or in the defense of any person in immediate danger of serious physical injury.”

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