Stroke?

[jon-nyc]

I’m not sure ‘the blow from the fire hydrant wasn’t what actually killed him’ is quite as exculpatory as some of you seem to think.

[Horace]

@jon-nyc said in Stroke?:

I’m not sure ‘the blow from the fire hydrant wasn’t what actually killed him’ is quite as exculpatory as some of you seem to think.

How much do we actually know about this attack with a fire extinguisher?

[jon-nyc]

Who’s we? TNCR or investigators? As for the former I think all we know is that it was described by witnesses.

[Jolly]

@jon-nyc said in Stroke?:

I’m not sure ‘the blow from the fire hydrant wasn’t what actually killed him’ is quite as exculpatory as some of you seem to think.

Dude, if somebody tore up a fire hydrant and hit him, I'm officially impressed.

[jon-nyc]

Ha

[LuFins Dad]

@jon-nyc said in Stroke?:

I’m not sure ‘the blow from the fire hydrant wasn’t what actually killed him’ is quite as exculpatory as some of you seem to think.

I'd say no blunt force trauma is pretty fucking exculpatory.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/02/politics/brian-sicknick-charges/index.html

[Copper]

I watched the video that showed the extinguisher hit the policemen.

What I saw wasn't enough to injure a healthy adult man.

It wasn't quite a glancing blow, more of a touch.

[Loki]

Investigators have determined any fire extinguisher episode is not relevant to his death . They said it is not true.

Now they are looking at bear spray. I heard it might not even be him who was hit.

How’s that for corroborated reporting at the time?

[George K]

Bear Spray:

In a significant breakthrough in the case, investigators have now pinpointed a person seen on video of the riot who attacked several officers with bear spray, including Officer Sicknick, according to the officials. And video evidence shows that the assailant discussed attacking officers with the bear spray beforehand, one of the officials said.

While investigators narrowed potential suspects seen in video footage to a single person this week, they have yet to identify the assailant by name.
A Justice Department spokesman declined to comment.

Irritants like bear spray, pepper spray and mace are considered to be nonlethal crowd control deterrents, but they can cause physical reactions that could create risks for people with underlying health conditions and disorientation that could lead to injury.

On Jan. 7, when Officer Sicknick died, the Capitol Police issued a statement that said he “was injured while physically engaging with protesters,” and then “returned to his division office and collapsed.” He succumbed to his injuries at the hospital.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear_spray

[jon-nyc]

I wonder what 'pinpointed' means exactly? They have his identity?

Seems like if they knew his whereabouts he'd already be in custody.

I wonder if he's in hiding.

[jon-nyc]

From the CNN story:

In a statement late Friday, the US Capitol Police noted that the medical examiner's report on Sicknick's death wasn't finished yet: "We are awaiting toxicology results and continue to work with other government agencies regarding the death investigation."

Probably trying to figure out if they can pin him for murdering a police officer or just assaulting one (or several).

[jon-nyc]

From that same CNN piece:

More than 100 other police officers were injured in the melee last month, including at least 15 who required hospitalization, according to court documents.

[Loki]

@jon-nyc said in Stroke?:

From that same CNN piece:

More than 100 other police officers were injured in the melee last month, including at least 15 who required hospitalization, according to court documents.

Just to clarify, as of yesterday did you think he was hit with a fire extinguisher?

[jon-nyc]

I haven't seen anything contradicting the testimony, have you?

[Loki]

@jon-nyc said in Stroke?:

I haven't seen anything contradicting the testimony, have you?

Absolutely. Investigators have discounted and moved on to other theories. I will admit I didn’t know either.

[jon-nyc]

I've only read that he wasn't killed by blunt force trauma. I've not seen any source contradicting the testimony that he was hit.

[Copper]

See the video here - look for the extinguisher at 0:20

https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/politics/video-shows-rioter-throw-fire-extinguisher-at-police-during-capitol-attack/2021/01/14/1e75a543-7c61-43f2-a710-37edde925c0f_video.html

[jon-nyc]

I wonder how many of those vermin assaulting the cops posted blue lives matter memes on social media last summer.

[Loki]

@jon-nyc said in Stroke?:

I've only read that he wasn't killed by blunt force trauma. I've not seen any source contradicting the testimony that he was hit.

Quote from his Mom:

She said, ‘He wasn’t hit on the head no. We think he had a stroke, but we don’t know anything for sure.

[George K]

@jon-nyc said in Stroke?:

I haven't seen anything contradicting the testimony, have you?

From the article I cited:

In the hours after Officer Sicknick was rushed to the hospital, officials initially said that he had been struck with a fire extinguisher. They later said that there was no evidence to support that he had died from any blunt force trauma. More recently, F.B.I. officials homed in on the potential role of an irritant as a primary factor in his death.