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  • L LuFins Dad
    25 Feb 2021, 19:45

    I can provide links if anybody needs. Then they can make any retractions they feel is appropriate.

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    Horace
    wrote on 25 Feb 2021, 19:55 last edited by
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    @lufins-dad said in Stroke?:

    I can provide links if anybody needs. Then they can make any retractions they feel is appropriate.

    Don't hold your breath.

    Education is extremely important.

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 25 Feb 2021, 21:07 last edited by
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      I’m not sure ‘the blow from the fire hydrant wasn’t what actually killed him’ is quite as exculpatory as some of you seem to think.

      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
      -Cormac McCarthy

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      • J jon-nyc
        25 Feb 2021, 21:07

        I’m not sure ‘the blow from the fire hydrant wasn’t what actually killed him’ is quite as exculpatory as some of you seem to think.

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        Horace
        wrote on 25 Feb 2021, 22:07 last edited by
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        @jon-nyc said in Stroke?:

        I’m not sure ‘the blow from the fire hydrant wasn’t what actually killed him’ is quite as exculpatory as some of you seem to think.

        How much do we actually know about this attack with a fire extinguisher?

        Education is extremely important.

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 25 Feb 2021, 22:13 last edited by
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          Who’s we? TNCR or investigators? As for the former I think all we know is that it was described by witnesses.

          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
          -Cormac McCarthy

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          • J jon-nyc
            25 Feb 2021, 21:07

            I’m not sure ‘the blow from the fire hydrant wasn’t what actually killed him’ is quite as exculpatory as some of you seem to think.

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            Jolly
            wrote on 25 Feb 2021, 22:17 last edited by
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            @jon-nyc said in Stroke?:

            I’m not sure ‘the blow from the fire hydrant wasn’t what actually killed him’ is quite as exculpatory as some of you seem to think.

            Dude, if somebody tore up a fire hydrant and hit him, I'm officially impressed.

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 25 Feb 2021, 22:18 last edited by
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              Ha

              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
              -Cormac McCarthy

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              • J jon-nyc
                25 Feb 2021, 21:07

                I’m not sure ‘the blow from the fire hydrant wasn’t what actually killed him’ is quite as exculpatory as some of you seem to think.

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                LuFins Dad
                wrote on 25 Feb 2021, 22:33 last edited by
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                @jon-nyc said in Stroke?:

                I’m not sure ‘the blow from the fire hydrant wasn’t what actually killed him’ is quite as exculpatory as some of you seem to think.

                I'd say no blunt force trauma is pretty fucking exculpatory.
                https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/02/politics/brian-sicknick-charges/index.html

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                  Copper
                  wrote on 25 Feb 2021, 23:08 last edited by
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                  I watched the video that showed the extinguisher hit the policemen.

                  What I saw wasn't enough to injure a healthy adult man.

                  It wasn't quite a glancing blow, more of a touch.

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                  • J Jolly
                    24 Feb 2021, 09:32

                    https://www.theepochtimes.com/capitol-police-officer-brian-sicknicks-mother-he-wasnt-hit-on-the-head-by-trump-supporter_3707914.html?utm_source=newsnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-2021-02-23-2

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                    Loki
                    wrote on 25 Feb 2021, 23:09 last edited by
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                    Investigators have determined any fire extinguisher episode is not relevant to his death . They said it is not true.

                    Now they are looking at bear spray. I heard it might not even be him who was hit.

                    How’s that for corroborated reporting at the time?

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                      George K
                      wrote on 27 Feb 2021, 14:47 last edited by
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                      Bear Spray:

                      In a significant breakthrough in the case, investigators have now pinpointed a person seen on video of the riot who attacked several officers with bear spray, including Officer Sicknick, according to the officials. And video evidence shows that the assailant discussed attacking officers with the bear spray beforehand, one of the officials said.

                      While investigators narrowed potential suspects seen in video footage to a single person this week, they have yet to identify the assailant by name.
                      A Justice Department spokesman declined to comment.

                      Irritants like bear spray, pepper spray and mace are considered to be nonlethal crowd control deterrents, but they can cause physical reactions that could create risks for people with underlying health conditions and disorientation that could lead to injury.

                      On Jan. 7, when Officer Sicknick died, the Capitol Police issued a statement that said he “was injured while physically engaging with protesters,” and then “returned to his division office and collapsed.” He succumbed to his injuries at the hospital.

                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear_spray

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 27 Feb 2021, 14:55 last edited by
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                        I wonder what 'pinpointed' means exactly? They have his identity?

                        Seems like if they knew his whereabouts he'd already be in custody.

                        I wonder if he's in hiding.

                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 27 Feb 2021, 15:14 last edited by
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                          From the CNN story:

                          In a statement late Friday, the US Capitol Police noted that the medical examiner's report on Sicknick's death wasn't finished yet: "We are awaiting toxicology results and continue to work with other government agencies regarding the death investigation."

                          Probably trying to figure out if they can pin him for murdering a police officer or just assaulting one (or several).

                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                          -Cormac McCarthy

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on 27 Feb 2021, 15:14 last edited by jon-nyc
                            #26

                            From that same CNN piece:

                            More than 100 other police officers were injured in the melee last month, including at least 15 who required hospitalization, according to court documents.

                            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                            -Cormac McCarthy

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                            • J jon-nyc
                              27 Feb 2021, 15:14

                              From that same CNN piece:

                              More than 100 other police officers were injured in the melee last month, including at least 15 who required hospitalization, according to court documents.

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                              Loki
                              wrote on 27 Feb 2021, 18:50 last edited by
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                              @jon-nyc said in Stroke?:

                              From that same CNN piece:

                              More than 100 other police officers were injured in the melee last month, including at least 15 who required hospitalization, according to court documents.

                              Just to clarify, as of yesterday did you think he was hit with a fire extinguisher?

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 27 Feb 2021, 18:52 last edited by
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                                I haven't seen anything contradicting the testimony, have you?

                                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                -Cormac McCarthy

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                                • J jon-nyc
                                  27 Feb 2021, 18:52

                                  I haven't seen anything contradicting the testimony, have you?

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                                  Loki
                                  wrote on 27 Feb 2021, 18:54 last edited by
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                                  @jon-nyc said in Stroke?:

                                  I haven't seen anything contradicting the testimony, have you?

                                  Absolutely. Investigators have discounted and moved on to other theories. I will admit I didn’t know either.

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                                  • L Loki
                                    27 Feb 2021, 18:54

                                    @jon-nyc said in Stroke?:

                                    I haven't seen anything contradicting the testimony, have you?

                                    Absolutely. Investigators have discounted and moved on to other theories. I will admit I didn’t know either.

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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on 27 Feb 2021, 18:57 last edited by jon-nyc
                                    #30

                                    I've only read that he wasn't killed by blunt force trauma. I've not seen any source contradicting the testimony that he was hit.

                                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                                      Copper
                                      wrote on 27 Feb 2021, 19:02 last edited by
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                                      See the video here - look for the extinguisher at 0:20

                                      https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/politics/video-shows-rioter-throw-fire-extinguisher-at-police-during-capitol-attack/2021/01/14/1e75a543-7c61-43f2-a710-37edde925c0f_video.html

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                                      • C Copper
                                        27 Feb 2021, 19:02

                                        See the video here - look for the extinguisher at 0:20

                                        https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/politics/video-shows-rioter-throw-fire-extinguisher-at-police-during-capitol-attack/2021/01/14/1e75a543-7c61-43f2-a710-37edde925c0f_video.html

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on 27 Feb 2021, 19:05 last edited by
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                                        I wonder how many of those vermin assaulting the cops posted blue lives matter memes on social media last summer.

                                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                                        • J jon-nyc
                                          27 Feb 2021, 18:57

                                          I've only read that he wasn't killed by blunt force trauma. I've not seen any source contradicting the testimony that he was hit.

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                                          Loki
                                          wrote on 27 Feb 2021, 19:10 last edited by
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                                          @jon-nyc said in Stroke?:

                                          I've only read that he wasn't killed by blunt force trauma. I've not seen any source contradicting the testimony that he was hit.

                                          Quote from his Mom:

                                          She said, ‘He wasn’t hit on the head no. We think he had a stroke, but we don’t know anything for sure.

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