Stroke?

[Jolly]

@loki said in Stroke?:

If it was a stroke the literature suggests 10 risk factors of which stress is only one. So one would assume extreme stress triggered the stroke but do we know if a stroke at some near term point was likely to happen if the 9 other risk factors weren’t actively mitigated?

Crawling out on a medical limb...the hormone dump of extreme stress most likely causes tachycardia and high blood pressure, causing extra pressure to be put on an arterial wall in the brain?

[George K]

@jolly said in Stroke?:

Crawling out on a medical limb...the hormone dump of extreme stress most likely causes tachycardia and high blood pressure, causing extra pressure to be put on an arterial wall in the brain?

No question that a hypertensive crisis can cause a hemorrhagic stroke. But usually that's in older patients. I have no idea what Officer Sicknick's medical history is, but what you mention is possible. On a scale of likely (1-10), I'd give it about a 2, unless he popped a berry aneurysm.

But, it's all speculation without the autopsy, right?

[Jolly]

What autopsy?

[George K]

@jolly said in Stroke?:

What autopsy?

There was no autopsy?

[Jolly]

@george-k said in Stroke?:

@jolly said in Stroke?:

What autopsy?

There was no autopsy?

Legally, I'm sure there was.

It just seems that nobody official has bothered to talk about it.

[LuFins Dad]

So. Has anybody retracted their “beaten to death with a fire extinguisher” statements yet?

[Horace]

@lufins-dad said in Stroke?:

So. Has anybody retracted their “beaten to death with a fire extinguisher” statements yet?

No.

[LuFins Dad]

I can provide links if anybody needs. Then they can make any retractions they feel is appropriate.

[Horace]

@lufins-dad said in Stroke?:

I can provide links if anybody needs. Then they can make any retractions they feel is appropriate.

Don't hold your breath.

[jon-nyc]

I’m not sure ‘the blow from the fire hydrant wasn’t what actually killed him’ is quite as exculpatory as some of you seem to think.

[Horace]

@jon-nyc said in Stroke?:

I’m not sure ‘the blow from the fire hydrant wasn’t what actually killed him’ is quite as exculpatory as some of you seem to think.

How much do we actually know about this attack with a fire extinguisher?

[jon-nyc]

Who’s we? TNCR or investigators? As for the former I think all we know is that it was described by witnesses.

[Jolly]

@jon-nyc said in Stroke?:

I’m not sure ‘the blow from the fire hydrant wasn’t what actually killed him’ is quite as exculpatory as some of you seem to think.

Dude, if somebody tore up a fire hydrant and hit him, I'm officially impressed.

[jon-nyc]

Ha

[LuFins Dad]

@jon-nyc said in Stroke?:

I’m not sure ‘the blow from the fire hydrant wasn’t what actually killed him’ is quite as exculpatory as some of you seem to think.

I'd say no blunt force trauma is pretty fucking exculpatory.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/02/politics/brian-sicknick-charges/index.html

[Copper]

I watched the video that showed the extinguisher hit the policemen.

What I saw wasn't enough to injure a healthy adult man.

It wasn't quite a glancing blow, more of a touch.

[Loki]

Investigators have determined any fire extinguisher episode is not relevant to his death . They said it is not true.

Now they are looking at bear spray. I heard it might not even be him who was hit.

How’s that for corroborated reporting at the time?

[George K]

Bear Spray:

In a significant breakthrough in the case, investigators have now pinpointed a person seen on video of the riot who attacked several officers with bear spray, including Officer Sicknick, according to the officials. And video evidence shows that the assailant discussed attacking officers with the bear spray beforehand, one of the officials said.

While investigators narrowed potential suspects seen in video footage to a single person this week, they have yet to identify the assailant by name.
A Justice Department spokesman declined to comment.

Irritants like bear spray, pepper spray and mace are considered to be nonlethal crowd control deterrents, but they can cause physical reactions that could create risks for people with underlying health conditions and disorientation that could lead to injury.

On Jan. 7, when Officer Sicknick died, the Capitol Police issued a statement that said he “was injured while physically engaging with protesters,” and then “returned to his division office and collapsed.” He succumbed to his injuries at the hospital.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear_spray

[jon-nyc]

I wonder what 'pinpointed' means exactly? They have his identity?

Seems like if they knew his whereabouts he'd already be in custody.

I wonder if he's in hiding.

[jon-nyc]

From the CNN story:

In a statement late Friday, the US Capitol Police noted that the medical examiner's report on Sicknick's death wasn't finished yet: "We are awaiting toxicology results and continue to work with other government agencies regarding the death investigation."

Probably trying to figure out if they can pin him for murdering a police officer or just assaulting one (or several).