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  • G George K
    24 Feb 2021, 13:41

    That may or may not be true.

    One this that is true: We don't know the results of the autopsy.

    Why?

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    Jolly
    wrote on 24 Feb 2021, 15:15 last edited by
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    @george-k said in Stroke?:

    That may or may not be true.

    One this that is true: We don't know the results of the autopsy.

    Why?

    That, is a very good question....

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      Loki
      wrote on 24 Feb 2021, 17:14 last edited by
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      If it was a stroke the literature suggests 10 risk factors of which stress is only one. So one would assume extreme stress triggered the stroke but do we know if a stroke at some near term point was likely to happen if the 9 other risk factors weren’t actively mitigated?

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        Horace
        wrote on 24 Feb 2021, 17:20 last edited by
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        Some TDS crocodile tears are going to have to be re-absorbed into TDS eyes. That's gonna sting.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • L Loki
          24 Feb 2021, 17:14

          If it was a stroke the literature suggests 10 risk factors of which stress is only one. So one would assume extreme stress triggered the stroke but do we know if a stroke at some near term point was likely to happen if the 9 other risk factors weren’t actively mitigated?

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          Jolly
          wrote on 24 Feb 2021, 20:44 last edited by
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          @loki said in Stroke?:

          If it was a stroke the literature suggests 10 risk factors of which stress is only one. So one would assume extreme stress triggered the stroke but do we know if a stroke at some near term point was likely to happen if the 9 other risk factors weren’t actively mitigated?

          Crawling out on a medical limb...the hormone dump of extreme stress most likely causes tachycardia and high blood pressure, causing extra pressure to be put on an arterial wall in the brain?

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • J Jolly
            24 Feb 2021, 20:44

            @loki said in Stroke?:

            If it was a stroke the literature suggests 10 risk factors of which stress is only one. So one would assume extreme stress triggered the stroke but do we know if a stroke at some near term point was likely to happen if the 9 other risk factors weren’t actively mitigated?

            Crawling out on a medical limb...the hormone dump of extreme stress most likely causes tachycardia and high blood pressure, causing extra pressure to be put on an arterial wall in the brain?

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            George K
            wrote on 24 Feb 2021, 23:23 last edited by
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            @jolly said in Stroke?:

            Crawling out on a medical limb...the hormone dump of extreme stress most likely causes tachycardia and high blood pressure, causing extra pressure to be put on an arterial wall in the brain?

            No question that a hypertensive crisis can cause a hemorrhagic stroke. But usually that's in older patients. I have no idea what Officer Sicknick's medical history is, but what you mention is possible. On a scale of likely (1-10), I'd give it about a 2, unless he popped a berry aneurysm.

            But, it's all speculation without the autopsy, right?

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              Jolly
              wrote on 24 Feb 2021, 23:50 last edited by
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              What autopsy?

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • J Jolly
                24 Feb 2021, 23:50

                What autopsy?

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                George K
                wrote on 24 Feb 2021, 23:52 last edited by
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                @jolly said in Stroke?:

                What autopsy?

                There was no autopsy?

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • G George K
                  24 Feb 2021, 23:52

                  @jolly said in Stroke?:

                  What autopsy?

                  There was no autopsy?

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on 24 Feb 2021, 23:53 last edited by
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                  @george-k said in Stroke?:

                  @jolly said in Stroke?:

                  What autopsy?

                  There was no autopsy?

                  Legally, I'm sure there was.

                  It just seems that nobody official has bothered to talk about it.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    LuFins Dad
                    wrote on 25 Feb 2021, 19:38 last edited by
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                    So. Has anybody retracted their “beaten to death with a fire extinguisher” statements yet?

                    The Brad

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                    • L LuFins Dad
                      25 Feb 2021, 19:38

                      So. Has anybody retracted their “beaten to death with a fire extinguisher” statements yet?

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                      Horace
                      wrote on 25 Feb 2021, 19:41 last edited by
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                      @lufins-dad said in Stroke?:

                      So. Has anybody retracted their “beaten to death with a fire extinguisher” statements yet?

                      No.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                        LuFins Dad
                        wrote on 25 Feb 2021, 19:45 last edited by
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                        I can provide links if anybody needs. Then they can make any retractions they feel is appropriate.

                        The Brad

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                        • L LuFins Dad
                          25 Feb 2021, 19:45

                          I can provide links if anybody needs. Then they can make any retractions they feel is appropriate.

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                          Horace
                          wrote on 25 Feb 2021, 19:55 last edited by
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                          @lufins-dad said in Stroke?:

                          I can provide links if anybody needs. Then they can make any retractions they feel is appropriate.

                          Don't hold your breath.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on 25 Feb 2021, 21:07 last edited by
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                            I’m not sure ‘the blow from the fire hydrant wasn’t what actually killed him’ is quite as exculpatory as some of you seem to think.

                            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                            -Cormac McCarthy

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                            • J jon-nyc
                              25 Feb 2021, 21:07

                              I’m not sure ‘the blow from the fire hydrant wasn’t what actually killed him’ is quite as exculpatory as some of you seem to think.

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                              @jon-nyc said in Stroke?:

                              I’m not sure ‘the blow from the fire hydrant wasn’t what actually killed him’ is quite as exculpatory as some of you seem to think.

                              How much do we actually know about this attack with a fire extinguisher?

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 25 Feb 2021, 22:13 last edited by
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                                Who’s we? TNCR or investigators? As for the former I think all we know is that it was described by witnesses.

                                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                -Cormac McCarthy

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                                • J jon-nyc
                                  25 Feb 2021, 21:07

                                  I’m not sure ‘the blow from the fire hydrant wasn’t what actually killed him’ is quite as exculpatory as some of you seem to think.

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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on 25 Feb 2021, 22:17 last edited by
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                                  @jon-nyc said in Stroke?:

                                  I’m not sure ‘the blow from the fire hydrant wasn’t what actually killed him’ is quite as exculpatory as some of you seem to think.

                                  Dude, if somebody tore up a fire hydrant and hit him, I'm officially impressed.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on 25 Feb 2021, 22:18 last edited by
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                                    Ha

                                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                                    • J jon-nyc
                                      25 Feb 2021, 21:07

                                      I’m not sure ‘the blow from the fire hydrant wasn’t what actually killed him’ is quite as exculpatory as some of you seem to think.

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                                      LuFins Dad
                                      wrote on 25 Feb 2021, 22:33 last edited by
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                                      @jon-nyc said in Stroke?:

                                      I’m not sure ‘the blow from the fire hydrant wasn’t what actually killed him’ is quite as exculpatory as some of you seem to think.

                                      I'd say no blunt force trauma is pretty fucking exculpatory.
                                      https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/02/politics/brian-sicknick-charges/index.html

                                      The Brad

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                                        Copper
                                        wrote on 25 Feb 2021, 23:08 last edited by
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                                        I watched the video that showed the extinguisher hit the policemen.

                                        What I saw wasn't enough to injure a healthy adult man.

                                        It wasn't quite a glancing blow, more of a touch.

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                                        • J Jolly
                                          24 Feb 2021, 09:32

                                          https://www.theepochtimes.com/capitol-police-officer-brian-sicknicks-mother-he-wasnt-hit-on-the-head-by-trump-supporter_3707914.html?utm_source=newsnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-2021-02-23-2

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                                          Loki
                                          wrote on 25 Feb 2021, 23:09 last edited by
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                                          Investigators have determined any fire extinguisher episode is not relevant to his death . They said it is not true.

                                          Now they are looking at bear spray. I heard it might not even be him who was hit.

                                          How’s that for corroborated reporting at the time?

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