Stroke?

[Jolly]

@george-k said in Stroke?:

That may or may not be true.

One this that is true: We don't know the results of the autopsy.

Why?

That, is a very good question....

[Loki]

If it was a stroke the literature suggests 10 risk factors of which stress is only one. So one would assume extreme stress triggered the stroke but do we know if a stroke at some near term point was likely to happen if the 9 other risk factors weren’t actively mitigated?

[Horace]

Some TDS crocodile tears are going to have to be re-absorbed into TDS eyes. That's gonna sting.

[Jolly]

@loki said in Stroke?:

If it was a stroke the literature suggests 10 risk factors of which stress is only one. So one would assume extreme stress triggered the stroke but do we know if a stroke at some near term point was likely to happen if the 9 other risk factors weren’t actively mitigated?

Crawling out on a medical limb...the hormone dump of extreme stress most likely causes tachycardia and high blood pressure, causing extra pressure to be put on an arterial wall in the brain?

[George K]

@jolly said in Stroke?:

Crawling out on a medical limb...the hormone dump of extreme stress most likely causes tachycardia and high blood pressure, causing extra pressure to be put on an arterial wall in the brain?

No question that a hypertensive crisis can cause a hemorrhagic stroke. But usually that's in older patients. I have no idea what Officer Sicknick's medical history is, but what you mention is possible. On a scale of likely (1-10), I'd give it about a 2, unless he popped a berry aneurysm.

But, it's all speculation without the autopsy, right?

[Jolly]

What autopsy?

[George K]

@jolly said in Stroke?:

What autopsy?

There was no autopsy?

[Jolly]

@george-k said in Stroke?:

@jolly said in Stroke?:

What autopsy?

There was no autopsy?

Legally, I'm sure there was.

It just seems that nobody official has bothered to talk about it.

[LuFins Dad]

So. Has anybody retracted their “beaten to death with a fire extinguisher” statements yet?

[Horace]

@lufins-dad said in Stroke?:

So. Has anybody retracted their “beaten to death with a fire extinguisher” statements yet?

No.

[LuFins Dad]

I can provide links if anybody needs. Then they can make any retractions they feel is appropriate.

[Horace]

@lufins-dad said in Stroke?:

I can provide links if anybody needs. Then they can make any retractions they feel is appropriate.

Don't hold your breath.

[jon-nyc]

I’m not sure ‘the blow from the fire hydrant wasn’t what actually killed him’ is quite as exculpatory as some of you seem to think.

[Horace]

@jon-nyc said in Stroke?:

I’m not sure ‘the blow from the fire hydrant wasn’t what actually killed him’ is quite as exculpatory as some of you seem to think.

How much do we actually know about this attack with a fire extinguisher?

[jon-nyc]

Who’s we? TNCR or investigators? As for the former I think all we know is that it was described by witnesses.

[Jolly]

@jon-nyc said in Stroke?:

I’m not sure ‘the blow from the fire hydrant wasn’t what actually killed him’ is quite as exculpatory as some of you seem to think.

Dude, if somebody tore up a fire hydrant and hit him, I'm officially impressed.

[jon-nyc]

Ha

[LuFins Dad]

@jon-nyc said in Stroke?:

I’m not sure ‘the blow from the fire hydrant wasn’t what actually killed him’ is quite as exculpatory as some of you seem to think.

I'd say no blunt force trauma is pretty fucking exculpatory.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/02/politics/brian-sicknick-charges/index.html

[Copper]

I watched the video that showed the extinguisher hit the policemen.

What I saw wasn't enough to injure a healthy adult man.

It wasn't quite a glancing blow, more of a touch.

[Loki]

Investigators have determined any fire extinguisher episode is not relevant to his death . They said it is not true.

Now they are looking at bear spray. I heard it might not even be him who was hit.

How’s that for corroborated reporting at the time?